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Throws feminism under the bus


First, let it be unequivocally stated, I loved this movie. Bell is such a great presence, and the writing is truly great as well. I also absolutely loved that when Carol slept with Gustav, her character was not shamed for it--it was simply an awkward moment of consensual sex and even her more earnest suitor, Louis, doesn't even think twice about it, except to point out that Gustav is just using her.

So many refreshing things in this movie.

But the Gina Davis bathroom scene really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Here is a archetypal feminist, pushing her agenda above all else, and her final word is that Carol wasn't the best candidate for the job. Carol apparently takes this to heart and tosses aside voice over work and goes full vocal coach. In a world where voice over work is the overwhelming backdrop, and apparently a very vital creative dream of hers, utlimately she just isnt' good enough and throws it all away.

I could see it going here, I suppose, if it was more apparent that this decision came from herself, and not at the word of Gina Davis. If your movie is about a woman breaking through the glass ceiling in a big way, then this seems a bit heartbreakingly undermining.
The evil feminist shouldn't win the day here.

Instead of having the dad pull a mircaculous, impossible to believe come to Jesus moment and redeem himself in one helluva stretch all fabric of realism you could have toned his villiany down and instead have him realize that his daughter is every bit as good as he is and help her realize that too.

She should be, at the end, doing more voice overs. Women should play the game and be able to win without equivocation. This is so refreshing a woman's story through and through, that I thought this last attempt to villianize blind feminism adds to a completely artificial and hollow ending for Carol. She deserves so much better in my mind.

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I too enjoyed the movie. I don't understand why you think it's anti-feminist if it takes a surprise turn and things turn out to be more cynical and less idealistic than the audience had been led to believe. I think it's an excellent anti-climax.

I also don't understand what you mean when you say she gave up voice overs and because a vocal coach. Where'd you get that?

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I interpreted it differently. There’s a whole thread here on the bathroom scene, I think it was perfect. The executive demonstrates that she understands real feminism and power on a multitude of levels. The quadrilogy film is, ,Ike she says, a fantasy. Carol isn’t “going back” to voice coaching from the same place she left it. She’s got her own followers now, even squeaky baby voice is actually a lawyer. She’ll still do plenty of movies but it only takes 15 min to voice a trailer- she’s offering her services, for a fee, to help a new generation “make a statement “.

There’s no throwing feminism under the bus. The relationship with Lewis was a huge step forward in showing a young man and young woman who are falling in love and respectful of one another. Her one nighter with Gustave and how she felt great about it afterwards, although she had no long term interest in him (really he was a bit of s boor) was also great to get on film

I adored this movie, Lake Bell should be knighted.

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