OK, I'm 30 minutes into the movie and there is a MASSIVE plot hole here. The humans HAVE to take the dam because they need power. There's NO other recourse. Seriously?? Nobody thought to hit one of the many hardware stores and pick up a diesel generator or two?? Nobody could gather up some solar panels and batteries?? Ridiculous! The whole premise is completely unbelievable.
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I would not call it a plot hole, as there are possible explanations posssible the movie just does not give. For me it is rather an example how the movie does not take its reality serious. Good writing would think ahead and always ask "why?". This movie instead treats the problem as a simple McGuffin to force the plot into that direction.
shareHey, those *beep* holes in Divergent Chitcago could power their buildings by attaching wind turbines to the side of buildings who not a big one on SanFran's Transamerica building
shareIf you had the know how to make a dam to work , that would be probably be the best long term solution for power. battery's would still need a power source to recharge. Generators would require a ton of gas and would also be used by vehicles , but yes they could still use for emergency's as back up temp. power. And i don't know enough about solar power to comment on it.
You would think a place that has a renewable power source is where mankind would build there new lives around. How the humans lose to the apes is what i cant get over in this movie.
The biggest mistake with the plot is guns. If they would have gone with the whole bullets are used up or guns are hard to get plot i would have believed more.
In the world the movie sets up guns/weapons would be the most important thing since you would need them to defend anything worth keeping. You would think these colony's would be built to protect there stock pile of guns , since it's what kept them alive. Having the stockpile outside the colony just makes no sense for the very reason how humans lose to apes. Let's remember they say humans were fighting each other after the virus , so it's not like their was 0 threat of humans taking over the stockpile of guns since it would be one of the most important things. I just don't understand the logic in how easy it was to take the colony's guns away.
Honestly , the writer/director had the idea of CGI apes using guns and built the plot around it. The whole movie is like this , They cared more about showing off the CGI then the plot and tired to act like that's not what they were doing. And i don't think CGI was good enough to carry the movie. Up close the apes looked good but all other CGI was nothing great in the dawn of movies we live in these days.
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I agree with Sarah. And why did it take ten years for them to think that one day they would need a dam to generate electricity.
Solar panels and generators good one.
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It would seem that society as we know it has gone all to hell by the time this story takes place. Stopping by Home Depot to pick up some spare solar panels is no longer an option.
shareMr Solar Panel was ignoring a few items:
A decision was made to restart the dam. Decisions are not always the best, easiest, or 'greenest' as you would like.
Maybe solar was already dismissed:
-Existing installed solar panels would be reduced in power output, some already degraded by sun and weather. Although some panels are warranted for 20-25 years of operation at a nominal power output.
-Solar panel fields could be easily attacked and wiped out in seconds.
-Ten year old batteries in unconditioned buildings. Kaput. At night and cloudy/rainy days, you'll have to rely solely on battery power.
-Eventually the dam could become a focal point of human civilization like the Nile. Man has always built on the water, and ape is deathly afraid of water. Symbolic?
As for solar businesses, 'growth' is due to gov't subsidies and tax credit for homeowners (they spend $10k, they pay $3k less in taxes, net cost $7k). Government is propping up the residential solar industry. While you have anecdotal proof that homes can run off solar, I find it extremely rare to see an 'Everyman' home in the Atlanta area with solar panels - and we have our fair share of sun. But as time goes by, solar tech will become cheaper and self-sustaining via technology gains and not the gov'ts $$help$$.
Just as you see there is resistance to solar in this forum, there will be resistance to solar in the movie. Imagine that.
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Well said.
Also people need to consider that solar panel manufacturing requires Rare Earth Metals. This is one of the reasons why the vast majority of panels are made overseas.
And as you said, even the best panels are rated only to 20-25 years, and that's likely with constant cleaning and maintenance/protection from the elements. So this would be only a temporary fix as panels would continue to deteriorate and fail and can't be replaced with new ones.
A dam on the other hand would last a long time and allow civilization to recover to the point of modern manufacturing abilities.
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