He opened fire first, so we can basically be 100% he's not dead right? Who only sends six guys to kill Kai? Send an army.
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He's dead, even if he wiped out the six guys. There were three vehicles, so the six that got out were probably just the first group, and even if not the cartel would just keep sending people and without Burton Kai has no muscle.
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Going out in a blaze of glory. He didn't need to physically die there, he was symbolically dead.
share6 guys on 1? Doesn't really matter if he shot first.
He be dead.
You're right, six guys on one doesn't matter if he shot first. He's too badass for six. Send an army.
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But that's exactly what the Cartel is an endless army of assassins. The first wave maybe Proctor survived, but they're coming endlessly. At some point, Proctor runs out of ammo.
Also, Proctor in realizing that his right hand man betrayed him to his very core, seemed to have lost the will to live really. This was his suicide run. He was going go out in blaze of glory with guns blaring.
I have suicide runs in Halo sometimes, but I'm a pretty good player, nowhere near as good as the equivalent of Kai, and I survive half my suicide runs.
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I meant suicide run the way some do the suicide by cop thing. Proctor can't really put a gun to his own head, but this way of going out against the Cartel, making them work for it, would be the way for him reconcile the gaping emptiness that his life had become. Betrayed by his most trusted right hand man, having lost the one hope for a legacy in his life, forsaken by his people, shunned by his own father, left behind in the torment of his bitter loneliness, Proctor had no other out. None!
Hood's smiling, happy journey on the open road was the flip side of what Proctor had become. He had finally shaken the weight of his past, the regret, the anger, the guilt, the bitterness of a lost 15 yrs, the loss of that great once in a lifetime love, being denied the chance to have embraced a wife of his own, to hold his own child in his arms as sign of something greater than himself. By the end, Hood has shaken his dependence on the need to be someone else, he had finally emerged to become himself, feeling a true, genuine connectedness to others (Sugar, Job, Carrie, Deva...even Brock).
Proctor on the other hand, had no one, none left that he called friend, none to care for selflessly, none to rest his quiet confidence of assured, faithful camaraderie in.
Very well said.
shareThat is a great, thoughtful post, Cotton. It is a post that Banshee earned and deserved. Thank you for that.
Kai. Is. Dead.
Logically, he'd be dead.
Personally, I'd prefer to have seen a massive Scarface-style gory shootout with Kai dying on a mountain of his enemies bodies.
But it was obviously left ambiguous intentionally, like the ultimate fate of the rest of the main characters.
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Actually I saw a twit by Cinemax saying "RIP Proctor".
shareJonathan Tropper:
Knowing him, he will wake up in a hospital somewhere, bullet-ridden and pissed off.share
Yes, but earlier on the same page ( https://connect.hbo.com/influence/qa/ask-banshee-creator-jonathan-tropper ), there is this Q and A:
Q: Was Proctor's final scene meant to be ambiguous?
Tropper: No. It was meant to be more like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. You know he gets killed, but we don’t want to show it.
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Surely if he is alive (which I highly doubt) he's gonna go after Carrie for what she done, no?
shareYou did not see Chipe's post before you wrote this, right?
shareWe can assume he either died or will die soon. The jig was up. He had nowhere left to go, and Kai Proctor isn't the type of guy to cut and run. Then again, he's Kai Proctor so if you really want him to survive, you can decide it to be so.
shareIt was Kai Proctor. Give it a few years and we'll hear about how the cartels have been toppled and there's a mysterious new player in the international drug market.
shareThe creator himself said that Kai was dead and that the scene was meant to be a callback to all the old western movies but they didn't have the heart to show him actually die.
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