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My first and last word to BR fans/trolls and other plagiarism fanatics.


First of all: Everything is yet invented.
¿what do I mean?
If you are looking for whom inspired whom we can discuss it till we find the very first book.
Here in Spain when we study law, they always say that if you start trying to find the real guilty one, you'll end up with Eve and Adam. think about it.
So chill out and vote for your taste, because this is all you got.
This is art, human being make/do art in basis of what each knows. Its pure logic, you can't scape.

Good day everyone!

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'Here in Spain when we study law, they always say that if you start trying to find the real guilty one, you'll end up with Eve and Adam. think about it'

All those smart lawyers say you can track everything back to two fictional people? :-)

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Thats crazy stuff. Theres also a major faction in Mexico that call themselves the same thing...wondering if there's a connection?

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So if anything, Hunger Games takes the basic elements of Battle Royale (kids fighting to the death) and builds an entire back story of people yearning for freedom around that element. Also unlike Battle Royale, Hunger Games provides a heroine to carry the story, something that isn't in Battle Royale, where no specific character is the focus of the movie, it more covers the whole Battle Royale.

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As BR didn't invent any of those things. If it had you might have had a case...if you could prove that anyone in the US had ever read the book BR. What were the sales figures for it again?

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Battle Royale 2 had a head start by four or five years, so I'd say several times that of The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1. Also lets not forget that while THG enjoys a n insular domestic success among those who never saw BR2, BR2 is a success on more of a world-wide scale.

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A head start when it never made the starting line. What is about the fact the film was never, never released in the Us that you have trouble understanding. It was never released anywhere. It sat on a shelf in Japan because nobody wanted it. You just don't want to admit it do you? It was never exhibited in the US, get over it. And when it was released those that bought it in the hope of getting another BR were crushingly disappointed. I've seen their reviews on YouTube, you should take a look at them as well. The movie has a rating of 4.70 here on IMDB, the reviews are right there. Your defending a turkey, a turkey that went off a long time ago and stinks to high heaven now.

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A head start when it never made the starting line.
But wasn't BR2 released in 2003?

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Not in North America, Central America, South America or in Europe and the Middle East. That made it rather difficult for the average person, (you know...the ones who don't watch bad movies that have never been released) to know about it. Funny how that works, if a movie isn't released, people don't know it exists. I certainly didn't, Tarantino never mentioned it.

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If that's the case, how do explain the fact that anybody anywhere could watch BR2 at any time, due to the invention of the internet? Lets not forget the huge demand that the first BR created.

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Back in 2001, my friends and I rented Battle Royale from Blockbuster Video several times in New Orleans. They had a couple copies on the New Release Wall and we loved that movie. It was actually pretty popular there at that time and we bought a copy of it, which was for sale at Barnes & Noble and Walmart. BR has been on Netflix since 2004 and again, was known pretty well during that time when Asian Horror like Ring, Audition, Suicide Club and The Grudge were all the rage and being remade in the US. There is no way that the author of The Hunger Games could have written the 50 plus plot similarities purely by coincidence. My girlfriend took me to see The Hunger Games at the movies and I didn't know much about it. While watching, I couldn't believe it wasn't a remake and I told her about BR.

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The Spartacus trope is one of the oldest ones going. The only reason I mentioned the 1913 version as being the first is because I was speaking cinematically. But it goes back further than just Ancient Rome itself. After, it's just "Man VS Society", or "one against the world"...

Once you boil it down to that, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Avatar, every Marvel Superhero movie adheres to Spartacus trope, which is more accurately described as the "Messiah" trope, and,- yes, Battle Royale 2 and Mockingjay are not exempt...

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Extremely well put.

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Can you see?
You can search looking for plagiarism or inspiration, you'll never end.


My search ended the moment I saw that The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 was a Battle Royale 2 ripoff. Maybe you try turning the subtitles on next time?

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BR2 = 4.7 on IMDBB (as of Oct 18th)
HGMPt1 = 6.8 on imdb


Thing is, im not even a fan, a huge fan of either film, Im just tired of the comparisons. Apparently, BR2 is flawed with that awesome 4.7 rating it has. Look, just let people enjoy what they want to enjoy.

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Whether or not The Hunger Games copies Battle Royale is so irrelevant to anything at all that I'm amazed by the amount of people who seem to care. My theory is that some people like to get outraged and angry and then vent, and this draws these kinds of obsessive-compulsive types.

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