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The most realist movie about toxic woman

posted 10 years ago by elechien
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Now mud had his fault and Ellis dad had his faults as well but the women in this film including the teenager were toxic woman. This film explored the chemical rush that men have when they love so deeply that they would do anything for it. Furthermore the movie showed the shaming tactics that woman have agaisnt men. The mom saying she needed more although she married a man of the river. a man that earned money for the family that way and now she leaves for what so she can be in town. IMO that's selfish in so many ways. She was sick of the life on the river so she destroyed her family. I was worried that his dad was going to kill himself the mom took away the boy from the father while he needed his guidance to be a good man those times when the sold fish was the times for that mentorship and are so important for a boy. The father self worth would have been very low and in the real world men committ suicide 4 times more the woman (and this type of scenario is commonplace for men committing suicide) and I really thought that the movie was going that way until the bite happen. Near the end the father again provide and protect the mom asking his son to help out the mother during this transition, clearly this man his a good man and didn't deserve this selfish act from the mom.

Mud's gf was the epitome of toxic and the play this game with mud for years. Maybe she did love him but I think her tears was for herself because no one would protect her anymore. MUDs friend knew exactly what she was and that final scene Imo was him getting away from her and the chains she had on him and that was his love for her.

What makes this movie the best film of 2012 is the real emotions that men have when the world believes that men don't have it. From the boy becoming a man with all the hormones raging to the old man who never got over is true love after she died. Personally it should have been nominated for the oscars and Matthew and the boys should have been nominated as well. This film is a American classic..

[–] dayviewing 10 years ago

Mud's gf was the epitome of toxic and the play this game with mud for years. Maybe she did love him but I think her tears was for herself because no one would protect her anymore. MUDs friend knew exactly what she was and that final scene Imo was him getting away from her and the chains she had on him and that was his love for her.

Great point. She was completely toxic for him, and his lapdog devotion to her got him into this whole mess to begin with. When she finally doesn't show up to meet him, he realizes the truth and ends things (for himself). That's shown when the boys see the smoldering bonfire and smashed whisky bottle from the previous night.

[–] david-1056 9 years ago

Great post, thanks!
Here's a rec: Imo, the greatest film about a toxic woman/relationship is «Bad Timing» by Nicolas Roeg.

[–] Kent_Kainer 9 years ago

Remember when Ellis' dad said him sth like: woman always want to talk a topic to death and not take action.
The beginning of the movie showed how she wanted to talk to him and he rather read the newspaper and by the end of the movie she took the action.

I also dont know why she didnt give him the boat like her father did to her. Maybe it had sth to do with the remarks (from her as well as from him) that he never could do anything by his own (or sth like that).
Could as well be a law thing.

I think the problems the parents had were equally selfmade. Even an unhappy mom has the right to change sth to make her better.

As for Juniper I agree but actually only Tom gives us that insight. As Mud himself obviously lied here and there.

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Lincoln Lee: I lost a partner.
Peter Bishop: I lost a universe!

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[–] Stirchley 9 years ago

the movie showed the shaming tactics that woman have agaisnt men

Lordy, another blub-fest about men who feel they are pussy-whipped.

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[–] fede_4488 7 years ago

This here is exibit B of why the movie is misogynistic. Tell us how you really feel about women.

BTW, the only thing toxic here is your fragile masculinity.

[–] cruzenflorida-1 7 years ago

I try very hard not to judge a situation other people are going through unless it has happened to me. I learned that lesson when my daughter passed away. So many judging how I was grieving or that I should "get over lt" . So insulting ! Anyway, people are too quick to think oh, I would do it this way. Or I wouldn't put up with that! When in truth, unless you have been in the exact circumstance, you might do what you think you would but you honestly do not know how you would react. That being said, my point is that as in a relationship, the only people who know what is really going on are the ones in the relationship. If the mom was that unhappy, she should do what she feels is best. Children realize that something is going on with their parents, they may not exactly, but can they can sense the anxiety & tension. I have been on both sides of that situation. My parents had problems & I always knew & got very upset. And never forgot. They finally divorced, less than a year later my dad died in a tragic accident. Therefore I always missed him & my step father wasn't mean but we just never formed that father daughter bond. My point in that is that lacking in that love, I married the the 1st *beep* who came along just to get away. So I went from the frying pan into the fire. He was abusive but I stayed for 8 yrs. (. Another situation where people are quick to give their opinion). Anyway, we didn't have a child till the last 2 yrs. But when she was 2 , he hit me while she was in my arms & I knew if he even accidentally hit her, he would seriously injure or kill her. That is when I starting making my plan to get the hell out! Unfortunately, he still abused me mentally & physically when he got the chance. ( back then, domestic abuse was not how it is now & there was not enough protection for the abused.) because of that my poor little girl remembered the many things she had seen or heard. Years later When she shared with me things she remembered I realized I had put her through the same, actually ,worse crap than I had gone through. But he finally left me alone after I got remarried. And she had to pay for that. He stopped having anything to do with her. She passed away from a brain tumor 2 weeks before her 18th b-day. He did not even have the decency to come to her memorial! I know this is a long rant but If someone is helped by reading, then it's worth it. And yes this is not the right forum for self help but I don't care about anyone else's opinion!