MovieChat Forums > The Judge (2014) Discussion > the spinning chair scene at the end...

the spinning chair scene at the end...


this is what i got from the ending scene at the courthouse that Hank decided to be a judge following his father path. any thoughts?

reply

that's right

reply

He lost his thirst for the cut throat lawyering when he went back to Chicago, it was even said he might lose his job, yet he didn't seem to care. Back to Indiana, and the closure with his father in the fishing boat, with the final scene, the chair beckoning him to step into the role his father had for 42 years.

reply

Yep - that's what I thought about him spinning the chair and his comment to the passing vehicle - that he was moving into the town - with his daughter - to continue his relationship with the woman who had his brother's daughter.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Life is too short to learn German - Mark Twain? Eh - Vielleicht.

reply

I think Hank is the new judge in his town. In fact I think that the name of the movie "The Judge" is at least as much in reference to him as to his father. Besides, court rooms are normally locked when not in use, so if it was open to him that implies he has a key because it is his courtroom.

reply

After listening to Willie Nelson's song at the end of the movie, my take is that if life is a circle or circular, simply trying to run away leaves one spinning endlessly in a hamster wheel of their own making. 'Science and progress' (material success) aren't going to free you either. Love is the only way out of the oppressive circles that often entrap us. The heart--love--is the only way to stop running in destructive circles, stop chasing your own tail. Through love, one can circle and return anew.

In other words, by loving his father despite his father's cruelty and abuse, by going as far as he could for him, Hank was able to discover that although life may be a circle, it doesn't have to continue on the way it once was, you can always start fresh, that every end is a new beginning, redemption for both, father and son.

reply

I simply believe that it was that ultimate point of acceptance and peace. Along with driving himself away from his father, he had pushed away his family, his roots, and his past for many years. I just see it as a bittersweet epiphany. I see it as Henry's walk toward his final recognition of the mass amount of respect that he had for his father his entire life. Despite all of the deeply complex tensions between The Judge and himself, it was quite obvious that he wanted love and acceptance from his father. To some extent, he became a lawyer because he admired his father. I don't believe there is enough evidence to support that he is now inspired to be a judge himself (although the chair points to him in a very welcoming manner lol). I think the fact that he didn't sit in it showed respect for his father. I think it was that moment that he realized his belief in his father's legacy that he somewhat mocked throughout the entire movie. He discovered that there were big shoes to fill and tipped his hat to a father he loved

reply

Yes, this is exactly my first thought as well!

Beautiful film with stellar performances by the entire cast.

reply

I think Sunshine is right that the Judge in part blames his son for the too short sentence he gave the guy who then went back and murdered his 16-year-old girlfriend.

In court, when Hank asks why he didn't give that guy a more appropriate sentence, the judge says it was because he reminded him of Hank, who he hoped would get a break if he needed it. Then Hank says something like, "I remember how we were" (meaning the nice relationship his father and he had had when he was young). After that he says something I couldn't figure out, but it seemed to mean "what happened?" In reply, the Judge says that after that guy killed the girl, he then was reminded of the murderer when he looked at his son, possibly fearing that Hank also would turn out to be a really bad apple.

Semper Contendere Propter Amoram et Formam

reply

And that, too, explains why he was so harsh with Hank when he crashed the car -- sending him to juvie instead of community service. Showing leniency to Blackwell resulted in the girl being murdered. Showing leniency to Hank could lead to something even worse happening.

reply

. . .back to the spinning chair. . .. .yes, I totally believe that this moment, especially when the chair stopped spinning in front of him was insight into the future. As if the chair could say "Have a seat, Judge!" And the look on Hank Palmer's face clearly showed that he was considering the option.

reply

The bit of honey is huge because he is the one son most like his father. Carrying
On this tradition with his own child. "Give me my bit o'honey old man! He asks Hank "you remember
What you used to
Say?
Also that hank remembered the tradition its
Pretty cool . They reminisce

Shows the bond severed, but ever present.

reply

I suspect the "spinning chair scene" was supposed to represent how Hank was going to turn his life around, both literally and figuratively.

reply

Having finally gotten to see this movie, I saw the spinning chair as a kind of "Spin the Bottle" reference, with the chair facing him indicating he should stay. Just prior, when he's walking on the street and has a shouting match with those in the pickup, he indicates he's leaning toward that with his "I'm right here... I'm from here." comments.
Good movie - I'd go beyond just Downey & Duvall being excellent and say the supporting cast was as well. I recognized many of the "people" as being similar to those in the small town I (all too briefly) lived in.

reply