Son's girlfriend


...certainly pulled a 180.

After the funeral she was all sweetness and light and singing the boy's praises. Afterwards she was bitter and accusatory.
WTH???

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She went through something pretty awful.

WTH???


It was 2 years later and she said she had to change her name and move b/c people were harassing her about it. She basically became a shut in. She even says in the film this was the first night she went out in a long time.



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Yes, yes, yes ~ of course she did "go through something pretty awful."

But since the son wasn't some breaking bad, Goth, head-banging neo-Nazi (you get my point) MOST people were shocked at his egregious behavior, and the girlfriend probably most of all. If she suffered, and the boy's gravestone was always being covered with hostile graffiti, then she must have known that the parents were suffering too. It seems strange that she would just mark the Dad as exploitative instead of something more complex: like trying to understand his son through his music, trying to resurrect the best, most creative parts of him...

I just think that if she was a good girl, and there's nothing shown to indicate she could have been complicitous in her boyfriend's crime, people would have surrounded her with protection.

I can't remember ~ did her family move away afterwards? They should have...

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If she suffered...


She did. There is no if.

It seems strange that she would just mark the Dad as exploitative instead of something more complex...


She bumped into him by coincidence (said it in the film) and heard him playing his son's music (possibly profiting from it) while passing it off as his own. She was also upset that he got to go hide and start a new life as a musician while she got harassed constantly for 2 years (then moved away herself).

Did you watch a pirated version? Most of the problems you have with her were covered in the film.


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I agree, I found her part to be written rather poorly. I also feel like Sam wasn't trying to rip off his son or even personally benefit from it at all (certainly not monetarily anyhow), but just to try and come to peace with it and understand it all through the music. While one could argue that the girlfriend was simply portrayed as a bitter self-centered person with little thought to what other's feelings or motives might even be, I think the fact that nobody questioned it and that the rest of the band (especially Quentin) reacted equally outraged shows the film was essentially condoning that perspective - or at least acknowledging its almost unquestioned veracity. Off hand, its the only part I the film I could really take issue with, though.


But what do I know. I'm just a girl.

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Total bitch.

If I can't smoke and swear I'm *beep*

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I would just say "It's none of your gosh darn business, biatch~" with a finger.

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yeah that would be my answer too.


Lose the Game!!!!!!!

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I think part of the problem is that it's just not a very good performance by Selena Gomez. Rather amateurish and one-note. I'm surprised William Macy let it pass like that. There's also a bit of a flaw in how the character is written, self-pitying with absolutely no sensitivity or awareness that a parent losing a child just MIGHT be a bit more painful than being harassed by reporters.

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Her feelings changed over time. She went from shock and now she's on the anger train, final stops acceptance and forgiveness.

When it started, she hadn't been harassed for two years yet. Hearing the songs that she knew in the bar, that she sang with Josh-opened an old wound.

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Agreed. I can certainly see why she'd be angry at Sam (?) I haven't seen the film in a while. I found it realistic how her character went from sweet to angry considering what she'd gone through. Some have said not as bad as losing a child but then there's no real measure of pain, she was hurt by someone she cared for who died too. Every character was in pain and naturally it was going to be directed to those around them/involved.

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Yea I just watched it and came up here to see if anyone else thought that Selena way overplayed the grieving girlfriend. I mean Jesus. They dated a year. They weren't married. She acted so high and mighty and blamed the dad. Screw her. The dad didn't kill anyone. If anything she probably drove the boyfriend to go on a damn killing spree.

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