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I found it strange...


she has been alone all this time with just the company of animals. Then a human male appears obviously hungry since he is trying to kill the bull with a hatchet.
The dog naturally tries to defend the bull and the man has to kill the dog in self defense. Then without a word or exchange of greeting she KILLS him.
Then go on to bemoan your isolation??...WTF??
I just find it strange that the last two people would not make SOME attempt at communication. But then the whole movie left me with a host of questions without answers. Not a movie I would recommend to a friend.

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I don't find it strange in the least bit.

Suppose an intruder broke into your home and murdered half your family. Would you stop and try and make a conversation with the murderer? I know I wouldn't. I think I'd have behaved exactly as she did in that situation.

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Who is strange, a human killing a cow for survival or a human killing another human for killing said cow? If you think a human killing a human in that scenario is justified then you have a problem. A major problem.

Go ahead, make my day....

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I too didn't find it strange that "the woman" killed "the man", because, as Click_to_Register observes, she likely sees him as deranged, "descended" into less than an animal.

I imagine if the man had retained his civilized manner, unwittingly killed the bull, then been confronted by a well-groomed and fed dog wearing a collar, he would have reasoned an owner was nearby, called out, explaining that the bull-killing was a misunderstanding, and tried to hold off the dog without killing it.

Fail this, at least, confronted moments later after killing the dog by a yelling woman running up on him gun in hand, he would drop the axe and plead not to be shot - though I imagine such a plea would fail, because, as cowgoesmoo notes, the woman has just seen half her family killed, and likely couldn't restrain herself from avenging them.

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He didn't have time to talk, he had just finished swinging the axe one last time in slow mo when he looked up and was instantly shot. Didn't matter that the dog had a collar. If I were in that situation and the dog was attacking I would axe It too.

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Precisely so, he had not fared nearly as well as she had to that point from the lengthy isolation. He was completely feral, I think.
I took the manic swings he was taking with the ax to mean that he was reacting like an animal killing for food (big slow animal as opposed to big fast animals, deer, which he probably had tried to catch for months) with the first tool that came to hand, the ax from her cabin's woodpile.
And he was so far gone from that spark of humanity that the firearms inside the cabin never registered with him as weapons, or tools to kill the bull (big animal) for food.

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The man's purpose in the film is simply to show us that she is no longer interested in civilisation. Like many with depression, she bemoans her isolation but when an opportunity comes along to escape it, she is more terrified of that than of the isolation itself (because she has become so used to it)

Depression is a vicious cycle

The clothes in the tree are probably another hint at the possibility of civilisation and she is both attracted to it but also repulsed by it

Writing itself is one of the most potent beacons of human civilisation......that's why the film ends when she decides to stop writing....because she has now completely abandoned civilisation

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I watched The Wall yesterday and I agree with your take on the symbolism of the murder of the man and also of the film ending as she has to stop writing. But I do wish I knew when she cut her hair!

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This is definitely not a science-fiction or fantasy-story. It's just a very artsy, philosophical, methaphorical movie. Therefore, the "man" symbolizes something (like others posted before) - the end.

I have the feeling too, that this movie maybe mostly symbolizing depression - or at least estrangement to other humans, humanity... the world... whatever.

I guess, the movie worked insofar as it did NOT sell itself as a sci-fi story or somthing.

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The man symbolized something.
Also, you ask why she didn't spare him, why she didn't try to connect with another human.
Why, if you are truly isolated, would you try to befriend someone who has just brutally murdered someone whom you loved and depended on?
ALSO,
Notice that he killed the BABY of the group.
It takes a much stronger person to make means to survive and cultivate a "civilized" routine in the midst of isolation like this.
Perhaps this is to show that she is not "crazy".
I think this touches on our own internal struggles and how we unload our insanity onto others, much like war. The man had chosen to do this. At some point he made the decision that "this is not happening" and chose to descend into feral madness.
In stark contrast, the woman, we may have thought was crazy made the immediate decision to be logical. Investigate. Reflect. Observe. And then she took action. To survive.
We all have a different set of skills, at different levels. This is often the problem with reflective, introverted people; we are often attacked by those that operate on the "feral" setting.

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I would have shot him just for kicking my dog. Anyway there could be only one

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FACT: She killed the thug in the defense of others. Prove me wrong.

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