frak Caprica... This was the way to go


So.... Caprica sucked. I don't know if everyone felt this way, but for me it looked like a teen drama and ... well, after a great space opera like Battlestar, it did no good.

But this... just watched episodes 1 and 2 on youtube. Great webisodes. Sure, there is room for improvement, but all in all, a great show. The script so far is well written, the carachters are nicely introduced and the storie flows...

This was... in my op.... a great prequel to Galactica. While waiting for ep 3 to be released friday with some anxiety I remember the way I used to wait for Galacticas eps while Season 1 was just airing... All that hope and expectation for what could happen.

I really hope this show is made into a tv series. A movie would be nice, but in all fairness, would be to to brief and the story would be cut short.

I would like to say that, surely, something that has a great soundtrack, good performances and a brilliant story (not to mention, interesting to galactica existing fans) would be produced and given an oportunity... but I remember that in the past there were such shows as Firefly or the 4400 and those were cancelled so...

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

ps. Sorry for my bad grammar, not american nor native english speaker

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You should hear the story of Crusade.

It was a sequel series to Babylon 5 - a highly regarded science fiction series that played as a 5-year video novel. Meaning, it was planned out completely before the first episode was aired, so the plot was much richer.

After Babylon 5, the sequel series was being made and was picked up by TNT, I believe it was. TNT was also airing B5 with the hopes that viewers would make the jump to other shows they were airing, but they weren't. People were tuning in just to watch Babylon 5 and nothing else.

So, what did TNT do? Well, before Crusade even aired, it was doomed. First, TNT tried to alienate the show's creator by requiring increasingly absurd things in the various episodes (a random fistfight, for example). This would be so they wouldn't be forced to violate their contract with said creator. Then, when that didn't work, they juggled the books, called the show unprofitable, and cancelled it before any episodes had aired.

Then, to add insult to injury, they prevented any other network from picking the show up. Crusade was offered for sale for a reasonable price (so I am told) but the contract required that anyone who bought the series would also have to purchase the airing rights for B5, which was absurdly priced. No network (like Sci-Fi) could afford the show, so it died, despite it having high potential considering the success of Babylon 5.

The ways of network executives are similar to those of the Gods - mysterious and unfathomable by mere mortals.

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Yep, networkc excec is the worst kind of evil from a very special hell. Babylon 5 is my favourite TV serie of all time and im very sad that TNT killed it :(

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Furthermore, after JMS (John Michael Straczynski, main showrunner and creator) produced a few episodes HIS way, TNT demanded various changes - all for the worse. Worse uniforms, worse lighting, worse plot points (like stupid fistfights as you mentioned just to superficially give it more "action") etc.....

But then they aired the episodes in opposite production order. They aired the TNT ones first, then the way more excellent JMS ones, as if to give the illusion that the show "improved" with the changes.

So when I first heard that TNT had decided to muck with JMS's format, I thought they (TNT) had definitely improved the show. The last few episodes looked better and were just generally way better with no cringe-worthy elements. It was only much later that I realized that they aired these different blocks of shows in reverse production order.

It was the JMS series episodes that convinced me this could be one of the greatest SCI FI series ever.

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Completely agree. Let's all hope SyFy comes to its senses and picks this up in 2013. It could easily have a good 5 year run if done right. The war lasted 20 years (I think) and this is year 10, so plenty of room. And, they can actually cover the "origin story" with this series to fill out what Caprica so badly tried to do.

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A 5 years run would be nice!!! this is show is truly great.... and if there is something missing from the tv is some good science fiction show..... We have good dramas, like the walking o homeland..... but nothing good on science f, you know?

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a 5 year run would be great even though prequeals have the disadvanatge of predetermination which limits whatt they can do with them.




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Those limits don't really seem to be a concern to B&C! Remember that in "Razor", it was mentioned that Adama didn't even see combat until the final day of the Cylon war.

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Wait, he said that? Was he talking in a viper? Cause if he was, then we can still count it that B&C didn't contradict continuity.

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So.... Caprica sucked. I don't know if everyone felt this way, but for me it looked like a teen drama and ... well, after a great space opera like Battlestar, it did no good.

I agree with you 100%. I never managed to get enthused by Caprica.

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Caprica was great for episodes 1 and 2... went teen drama for a few episodes which killed the ratings and SyFy killed it just as the last couple of episodes got good.... the last episode was great.....

really dumb story arc planning... episodes 3,4,5 were coma inducing... it's a bummer cause they had a good story they could have told....

Blood and Chrome is pretty good... and the natural follow on to BSG was to show the first cylon war anyway.... gotta have some space battles with this genre...

its probably 10-1 it will get picked up as a real show.... but here's hoping...

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I was and still am a big fan of Caprica but I think its single, biggest mistake was that it took too long to get going and to start making the direct connections to the events of the BSG miniseries and beyond.

I fully understand that RDM and Eick were wanting to do something new and not retread old ground with Caprica but perhaps they made it TOO different.

Anyway, it is apparent that most viewers who were fans of BSG did not care for Caprica when you look at the comparative ratings numbers.

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Anyway, it is apparent that most viewers who were fans of BSG did not care for Caprica when you look at the comparative ratings numbers.

Yes, I think that's pretty much true.

Respect for trying to do something different, shame the BSG audience didn't appreciate it.

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What is *apparent* is how fraking narrow-minded and patronising a sci-fi fan-base will be. I was, and AM, a HUGE fan of Caprica, got my Avenging Angels T-shirt to prove it, and will not temper my statement by tossing the armchair critics out there a bone just to curry some modicum of favour with them to avoid being targeted by their hystrionics.

All you armchair critics out there shot down SGU.

All you Baby Boomer armchair critics out there constantly lambast Star Trek TOS episodes for being 'written by women' whenever the show veered from MANLY MAN things like riding the high seas (ya know, space exploration), and pew-pew-pew, and high-brow socio-political commentaries firmly rooted in the issues at the time of the air-dates, and wham-bam-thank-u-mam-for-a-jolly-rogering-o. [Which is ironic since many of the episodes that these same 'critics' enjoy were ALSO written by a woman; you~ know~, D.C.?? hmmm?~~ hmmm?~~]

Tangentially, all the armchair critics over at the CW's target demographic shot down another excellent show, The Secret Circle, for being 'too teen drama' when it was NOWHERE in the same camp as MTV's Teen Wolf or CW's 90210...

All you armchair critics TRIED to shut down Dollhouse after it's first series (eww~ it's Eliza Dushku~) but at least enough Whedonites and Browncoats were out there to c@ckblock your attempts and we got a 2nd run, in your smarmy faces.

As I said, I will NOT temper my words. I have HAD it with all the pea-brains like the OP out there trashing Caprica because it didn't fit their tidy little notion of what sci-fi is 'supposed~' to be. This includes the Traitor and Head Pea-Brain, himself, Mr Eric Stolz. Seriously, man? You basically APOLOGISED in that interview about the show?! Then you OBVIOUSLY missed the fraking POINT to it and should never have been in it in the first place! And no, I shall not be watching any of your other works, Stolz, if I can avoid them.

'Frak Caprica'? Frak YOU, mate.

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awesome post.

Eric Stolz apologized? He was so god dam good in Caprica.

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You know, no matter how many times you say "armchair critics" (I mean, seriously), your post is still nothing more than a whiny, insult-filled temper tantrum over people who didn't like a thing that you liked.

Calm the frak down.

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Nothing wrong with narrow-minded, keeping to the original story is important.
"Star Trek" is an example if they continue to insert non-story lines, PC, BS, See Ya!

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Ya the same thing Happened with SGU. I understand writers want to try something new once in awhile but they really can't do big jumps like they have been doing lately they need to move slowly so the audience can adjust to it especially when its concerning franchise shows that has a fan base use to something completely different.

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Indeed! I gave up on Caprica half way through. I might pick it up later.

But this is what I was missing from BSG. Good action, likeable characters...ect.

I really do hope this gets picked up for a series!

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Oh man, the 2nd half is a definite improvement over the first half. It just keeps getting better as the series progressed, with the finale being one of my favorite episodes of the BSG franchise, probably around #6. (5 is Miniseries,4 is Pegasus, 3 is Crossroads, 2 is Daybreak, and 1 is Exodus.)

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Caprica was so good. Yes there were a couple of slow episodes early in the season but once you get past the V-World storyline it gets so good. What a pity most people gave up on it. The second half of season 1 really shows the potential of the show. It would have been epic in season 2.

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I am so glad that this posting isn't full of hate. I loved the entire pilot start to finish. They can't end it there, there is so much potential. Many things came together and this felt so right, as if it can rise to the top and be THE SHOW that people want to watch. Other BSG's were all right, and I never watched Caprica because I couldn't get into it. Hopefully with this show in the right hands it will take us through a few years and might spark a movie. Only the original BSG from back in the day ever shows what the original creators wanted, the finding of Earth and making a go of it with their lost brothers.

It is just nice to finally see everything come together, from graphics, to the hot shot pilot that can think on his feet proving that sometimes kids can do a task and do it well. I'm tired of seeing botched runs of shows like B5 and its spin-off, Stargate falling by the wayside because these big companies mismanage funds and then backtrack and cancel future seasons and movies or they cancel because ratings are good but not what they want to see? Come on. Fund it, commit to it, give it a chance, and listen to its fans!

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it made no sense to ever make a caprica series, they could have and should summed that entire season into one dvd movie that led into blood and chrome, caprica was an abomination to me, had a few great matrix type things about it but it was completely fracked from the get-go, no disrespect to the actors though

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