MovieChat Forums > Reviving Ophelia (2010) Discussion > Am I the only one not liking Elizabeth?

Am I the only one not liking Elizabeth?


I know she's supposed to be the victim and I'm supposed to feel sorry for her. I am just not liking her and I feel bad for the blond chick not her.

Phoebe: Wait a minute, you just said something.
Paige: I did? Was it smart?

reply

[deleted]


Elizabeth was STUPID enough to stay with that monster. That's sad. Really sad. Nobody deserves to get treated like a punching bag, but she did nothing about it and thought it was all about "love". Sickening. That's why too many women are ending up dead. They don't understand when a male hits them, it's not love. It's hate. Pure hate.

Agreed 100%. Elizabeth was dumb as bag of rocks.




"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

reply

Neither one of you get the psychology of abused women. It's very easy to preach when you're not in the situation.

reply


I get the psychology, trust me. I very briefly had a boyfriend who tried abusive behavior, and I cut that off pretty quick.
I also got to watch my mother being abused constantly, both verbally and sometimes physically by her boyfriend for 15 years. She absolutely refused to listen to me or anyone else about it.

My cousin has had one abusive relationship after another, and she too refuses to listen to anyone about them. In fact, they both get enraged instead.



"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

reply

Good for you. Yeesh, I wonder what your cousin's deal is, to go from one to another. Really ticks me off when women get defensive about that.

reply


I'll never understand women like that. Total wimps. Stand up for yourself ladies, they are lucky to have you!
If they can't realize that & treat you with respect, dump them!



"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

reply

Total wimps. Stand up for yourself ladies, they are lucky to have you! If they can't realize that & treat you with respect, dump them!


Although you said it yourself, you will "never understand women like that" I thought I may give you some insight into the topic and WOMEN you're of whom you're placing judgement.

I am a very strong, independent woman with a husband, little girl and baby boy on the way. I could not be happier with my relationship in both my marriage and also within my family. I am lucky enough to have chosen a man to share my life and family with who is caring, affectionate, respectful but also provides myself as well as our daughter with the utmost unconditional love. However, if that were to change at any point and time, there's nothing I would subject myself nor my daughter to that is not complimenting to our growth in anything but a positive way. That being said, I was at one point and time, in a very verbally and physically abusive relationship when I was 15 years old for about two and half years. The majority, if not entirely, of women in abusive relationships do not enter the relationships that become abusive with the slightest concept of what the outcome will be in the end. Nor do women who are abandoned, cheated on, ignored or any kind of terrible, unfortunate relationship possible. I've yet to meet a woman who's met a man that punched her in the face the day they met, claimed love at first sight and went on to marry him later in life. The men who abuse women are cunning, deceitful, con-artists with a motive to control their victim at all costs and normally suffer from psychological issues as well. I chose the word victim because that is exactly what describes these women, not a partner since that would imply equality. You said yourself that you were once in a relationship yourself with a man who was physically abusive, to call a woman who's abused a wimp is the equivalent of calling you a hypocrite. These woman are not only beaten up physically, but the mental abuse they are subjected to is far worse than the majority of any physical violence. The abusers choose their victims and prey on any weakness, which every human being has, and continue to use their increasing vulnerability to their advantage. It has absolutely nothing to do with how weak or strong a person is, abusive relationships happen to many different kinds of women every single day.

The best way to help a woman in this situation would be to help them remember how strong they are and what they are capable of doing for themselves. Calling a woman who's abused a "wimp" will not only reinstill the lack of self-worth they have for themselves from the mental abuse, but is infact abuse in itself. Abuse is a type of bullying, controlling and self-gratifying behavior. Those who abuse women or bully others are the ones who are weak, for they prey on the low self esteem in others in order to gain self esteem for themselves. Woman who deal with mental, physical or either type of abuse are anything but wimpy and weak, they are fighting for their lives every single day.

reply


I already explained in an above post that I've tried everything under the sun to get my mom, and my cousin, to stop being with their abusive men.
They REFUSE to listen.
A lot of women (and abused men) use their friends & family as a kind of 'wailing wall'. They run to you when they are abused, you get all upset & start to help them...then the abuser apologizes or whatever, and the women yell at YOU, run back to them, and give you the cold shoulder because 'everything is OK now so shut up'.
A cycle over & over.
Yep, we get tired of it. People try to help, and they crap all over them.
Women have a responsibility for their own safety, for their own lives.
Enough is enough.



"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

reply

No, you're not the only one. I just started watching the movie, and I immediately started to dislike her when she made that "go down on a guy" comment to her friend? Cousin? Who was she again?

Tell me: What's likable about her?

reply

I was more annoyed by her parents.

reply