one of the things that really disturbed me about this movie is that ellis came off as such a stalker. he was so obsessed with her, he looked up her address. it didn't feel like adaline really loved him, more settled for him because he wouldn't go away. if a guy pursued me like this, i'd call the police, not date him! and furthermore, it's gross she also dated his father.
shareI would most certainly date Ellis. He was persistant, but not stalker like IMO. I've known stalkers. Ellis just knew what he wanted and went for it. I like that in a man. Plus he's gorgeous. I agree with the father thing though. That was gross.
Actors are mere products of a good writer's imagination
He basically blackmailed her into a first date ("no date = no donation to library").
share"He basically blackmailed her into a first date ("no date = no donation to library")."
She could have said no. Rich guys act like that. They have a lot of money. They're not like other men. They have the power of the mighty dollar to get what they want. It usually works. She ended up falling in love with him and she will now have the real life she hasn't had thus far so what's the problem? She's over 100 and now that she's going to start aging she will probably have at least another 40 or 50 years to be happy with him so what's wrong? Aside from the dismal fact she will eventually have to bury her precious daughter who is now elderly (probably close to 80 if not there already), I say she came out ok.
Actors are mere products of a good writer's imagination
She could have said no. Rich guys act like that. They have a lot of money. They're not like other men. They have the power of the mighty dollar to get what they want. It usually works.
She's over 100 and now that she's going to start aging she will probably have at least another 40 or 50 years to be happy with him so what's wrong? Aside from the dismal fact she will eventually have to bury her precious daughter who is now elderly (probably close to 80 if not there already), I say she came out ok.
She should have just worn a wedding ring. That way far fewer guys would have been bothering her.
shareEXACTLY. he was basically emotionally abusive. red flags! hello!
shareAgree 100%. There is a difference between being a stalker, and being persistent. Ellis was the latter, and sometimes women want a man who fights for them and pursues them avidly. It would be a different story if he pursued her that way before they'd gone on any dates or had a connection. At that point they'd spent a night together and really hit it off, and both knew it.
shareAnd he had money.
shareGood points. It seems like she gave in.
I wouldn't date Ellis, partly because I can't see what he looks like.
Can't stand facial hair. It covers up what could very well be a very nice face and it doesn't feel nice against the face. BLEH!
That actually depends on how well it's maintained. Properly maintained facial hair can be rather soft. Granted, one has to put the time and effort in.
shareI'd be creeped out by his stalker-like tendencies. I don't care how good-looking and sweet he is. If he called me multiple times, then went to my place of work to get my address without my knowledge or consent and then showed up at my home after I failed to call him back ... I'd tell him to stay away from me and stop harassing me.
shareI do agree that it seemed like he bullied her into going on that first date, but he wouldn't have done that if she would have agreed. But of course, that still doesn't make it okay. Besides, she was just scared because of the consequences.
After that, he was persistent and romantic. I liked that. I cannot get over the flowers he gave her, that would have me all mushy like.
I totally agree with you, and it was really painful for me to watch him pursue her. I was like "jeez, this guy cannot take a hint!" I don't think his "persistence" was romantic at all.. total stalker behavior.
shareEllis did finally leave her alone. Remember, she returned to him to apologize and date him.
She liked him all the time, but was afraid of being in a relationship.
1)Bullying/manipulating to get her to date him - even as a joke, I still would not have been attracted to someone who did that.
2) Being stalker-ish. If you want to date someone, give them your number (if they won't give theirs), and then back off and let them make their choice.
3) Actually the biggest turn-off for me was not the above two issues, but rather that he looked intriguing, but as soon as he opened up his mouth and started talking, he sounded immature, lightweight and shallow - and not particularly intelligent. Just not appealing.
And as far as his looks go, a) Ive seen guys that appeared goodlooking, but when they shaved off their beards, their faces were no longer so attractive - the beard was covering a weak-chin, small jaw or other unbalanced feature. I've also seen the opposite, where a guy was even more (lots more) attractive when he shaved (for me - >sniff!<)... but that's not the more likely case. And studying his face, it looked like he needed the beard to balance his features.
Lastly, if you leave the US, guys that look like him are rather common, and easy to score, as they tend to have a built-in bias towards Americans (the same way we like foreigners when they come to the US - they are just intriguing for that reason alone - accent, foreign-ness, etc.). So I've had my pick of guys that looked like him or better when I traveled, and they had more depth and substance and intelligence than he comes across as having.
Nuff said.
His beard didn't look thick enough to really hide anything. I'm not even sure that qualified as a beard so much as fuzz, to be honest. I would think an actual beard would have more body to it.
Aside from that I don't see the issue with using facial hair to balance out one's features. Isn't that what people already do with their hairstyles and clothing? At that point you could argue that people only have hair on their head to hide how bad they look with no hair at all.
I'd also contend that perceived depth of personality could be amplified due to a lack of native depth in the selection pool one is used to; if one spends their life only looking at crayon drawings then of course even the most random smears of oil on canvas will look impressive.