Squalor porn


Another gloom=guts exercise in naive misanthropy, but this time we get to ogle fifteen year old boobs in an artless Kids rip off. I don't see how anyone could honestly convince themselves this isn't simply puerile garbage. It comes across in the end like an eleven year old boy's idea of "gritty ART, man". Just embarrassing.

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Actually her boobs were 22 when this movie was filmed.



I know, she's like a crack-whore without the dignity.

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Her character is 15, but I take your point.

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So... I take it you've seen it?


I still believe that peace and plenty and happiness can be worked out some way. I am a fool.

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Uhh . . . yes, I've seen it.

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I'm not complaining that she is showing her boobs. I'm saying the film borders on exploitation. The choices the director made were consistently lacking in taste and tact. Like I said, it seems like a teenager's rip off of a Harmony Korine/Larry Clark film. The cinematography was decent, but the overall film is garish, obvious, and derivative.

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everything's derivative, you're a bit late to postmodernism aren't you. and this was nowhere near as exploitative as the films of Larry Clark

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So, I'm guessing you actually like the film, right? That's hilarious to me, but to each their own I suppose.

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Most "coming of age" stories are meant for audiences not much older themselves. Being derivative matters little when the theater is full of people who've never heard of Kids or Thirteen. That's why the genre never goes out of style.

My biggest complaint wasn't with the seamier aspects, but with the cop-out ending where Alison has a change of heart and returns in the nick of time to shoot the perv before he rapes Lily. That's a ridiculously tired trope, for any audience. But overall, the magnetic acting performances by Juno Temple and Chris Coy made me not rue the time spent watching this flick.

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Most "coming of age" stories are meant for audiences not much older themselves.


That doesn't excuse a bad film. I've seen animated films that are "meant for" a child audience yet were excellent in their presentation and execution.

Being derivative matters little when the theater is full of people who've never heard of Kids or Thirteen. That's why the genre never goes out of style.


Or in other words, if you've never seen any other coming of age film then the shortcomings of this one won't matter because the ignorant audience will not have seen a better film to compare it to?

Granted, comparing this to Kids is a bit of a stretch (thought the Thirteen comparison seems fair). Even so, a good film should transcend the audience it's "meant for". Even if I hadn't seen those other films I seriously doubt I would have liked this since there were simply too many scenes of people walking around set to music. The acting was fair but everything else was blah.

Don't try to cash in love, that check will always bounce.

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I don't see why you're arguing with my post. I didn't say it was a good film, I said being derivative is not terribly relevant to whether it's good or bad.

I think I made it pretty clear the film has failings. And since we both agree the acting was the best part of the film, there doesn't seem to be any argument here.

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why on earth would me liking a film amuse you? you disliking this film has no affect on me whatsoever, makes no difference to me whether you like it or not.

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I liked it too. I think it's hilarious that you didn't, ya condescending prick.

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I wasn't into this movie too much but I think you're overreacting. This was a pretty subdued film. Didn't try to be very artsy at all, especially when it moved into the city where the "squalor" was.

Squalor porn is a good way to describe Bellflower. This definitely wasn't a happy movie though and the endless depressing indies have really burnt me out the past couple years.

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