Retarded movie for morons


Ignoring the many parts of the movie that are just dumb (the fact that he retrieves a ring from the grate when it's not visible; when the cop breaks the padlock on the top drawer, then opens the two unpadlocked bottom drawers; the stupidity of "these are the people accused of similar crimes" - accused of beating, kidnapping, and dismembering women then scattering their body parts?!?) this movie is stupid. He catches the killer, then lets him go to kill and rape again ... then catches him, to let him go to kill and rape again ... sure, stab my two friends! It's all part of a plan that makes no sense!

This is just a stupid movie for indiscriminate fetishists.

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So in your version of the movie, guy kills girl, guy gets away with it....

or

guy kills girl, gets arrested, and we watch the trial and then him in jail. Until of course he dies of old age.

I get you.

Wrong to say that I am giving up, right to say that I ain't showing up.

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In my version of the movie, something that makes sense happens. Since it's supposedly a vigilante film, you're leaving out the obvious solution: that instead of finding him within 20 minutes of the movie starting, then stupidly and needlessly releasing him with varying injuries, it takes a while to track him down and then he - I don't know - kills him? puts him in jail?

This is a point that people don't seem to understand: just because you come up with a new idea for the vigilante formula doesn't mean it's good, or that it makes sense. This movie is just stupid, and seems to only exist to watch a bad guy murder and rape people while an incompetent cop aids and abets him. It's a fetish movie.

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Oh so you want a movie that's been seen before. Alright.

I get you.

"Every year Hollywood makes hundreds of movies. This is one of them."

Get started on it, mate.

Wrong to say that I am giving up, right to say that I ain't showing up.

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While I realize you're just a smug prat, surely you can understand how dumb you seem for advocating a movie be different just to be different, no matter how inane it is.

I have a great movie idea for you: a cop's wife is brutally murdered by a serial killer. He ruthlessly tracks him down, then marries him. They travel the world, finally settling in a small Russian town where the killer learns ballet while the cop slowly morphs into a half-man, half-unicorn creature. The killer ballerina becomes so good that he must give a command performance for the King of Atlantis, and so he mounts his good half-unicorn lover and the two fly underwater to find it. There they encounter a race of sentient seahorses named the Moogra, and learn that all of mankind is controlled by a sinister mind ray beamed from the planet Neptune. The movie ends as the Moogra, the unicorn, and the ballet killer form up like Voltron and fly to Neptune to do battle with the evil aliens.

There. Give me your $13. It's "different". You twat.

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Fenrir, I think I love you. I do agree with you dubbing this as a fetish film. It's well shot and adequately acted, but in the end it is a fetish film.

I've noticed some korean movies often treat this kind of twisted torture as justified and necessary toward investigations or they use realistic violence to create a "mature" or serious atmosphere, instead of dialogue and plot. And I don't mean to rag on korean movies, I enjoy a lot of them, but I keep on running into the same types of characters, plots, and actions in every one of them.

Babe 2: Pig in the City is by far the best talking pig movie of the last three hundred years.

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He's still wrong about the film being stupid. He didn't realize why the hero didn't kill or arrest the antagonist right away.

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I'm agreeing with you, mangola. No need to get all angry because your troll post didn't work as well as you thought it would.

Chet up. Better luck next time.

You dense knob.

Wrong to say that I am giving up, right to say that I ain't showing up.

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That actually could be a good movie.

I'd like to see David Lynch direct that.

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I have a great movie idea for you: a cop's wife is brutally murdered by a serial killer. He ruthlessly tracks him down, then marries him. They travel the world, finally settling in a small Russian town where the killer learns ballet while the cop slowly morphs into a half-man, half-unicorn creature. The killer ballerina becomes so good that he must give a command performance for the King of Atlantis, and so he mounts his good half-unicorn lover and the two fly underwater to find it. There they encounter a race of sentient seahorses named the Moogra, and learn that all of mankind is controlled by a sinister mind ray beamed from the planet Neptune. The movie ends as the Moogra, the unicorn, and the ballet killer form up like Voltron and fly to Neptune to do battle with the evil aliens.

There. Give me your $13. It's "different". You twat.



But spot on. Just cause a movie is different doesn't make it good.

If this movie was made in hollywood with American actors, this movie would have been so panned. Now it gets a pass just cause it's Korean. There are so many way better Korean movies out there. This one was just basically torture porn with a bad script.

"Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down. Makes her home."

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Ponzer nailed it. Torture porn made for dumb teens and dumber adults.

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you have no idea what torture porn is. a serbian film is toture porn, august undergrond is torture porn. gtfo

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"I have a great movie idea for you: a cop's wife is brutally murdered by a serial killer. He ruthlessly tracks him down, then marries him. They travel the world, finally settling in a small Russian town where the killer learns ballet while the cop slowly morphs into a half-man, half-unicorn creature. The killer ballerina becomes so good that he must give a command performance for the King of Atlantis, and so he mounts his good half-unicorn lover and the two fly underwater to find it. There they encounter a race of sentient seahorses named the Moogra, and learn that all of mankind is controlled by a sinister mind ray beamed from the planet Neptune. The movie ends as the Moogra, the unicorn, and the ballet killer form up like Voltron and fly to Neptune to do battle with the evil aliens."

I'd actually like to see that.

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I have a great movie idea for you: a cop's wife is brutally murdered by a serial killer. He ruthlessly tracks him down, then marries him. They travel the world, finally settling in a small Russian town where the killer learns ballet while the cop slowly morphs into a half-man, half-unicorn creature. The killer ballerina becomes so good that he must give a command performance for the King of Atlantis, and so he mounts his good half-unicorn lover and the two fly underwater to find it. There they encounter a race of sentient seahorses named the Moogra, and learn that all of mankind is controlled by a sinister mind ray beamed from the planet Neptune. The movie ends as the Moogra, the unicorn, and the ballet killer form up like Voltron and fly to Neptune to do battle with the evil aliens.


BRILLANT! Now for the casting.

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I'd watch it. Give me your account number, I'll give you 13$

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In my version of the movie, something that makes sense happens. Since it's supposedly a vigilante film, you're leaving out the obvious solution: that instead of finding him within 20 minutes of the movie starting, then stupidly and needlessly releasing him with varying injuries, it takes a while to track him down and then he - I don't know - kills him? puts him in jail?


You really didn't get it, did you? Yes, I know a lot of people say that. But I'm going to back my statement up.

First, it would be stupid if it took a while for the agent to track the killer down. He had many resources at his disposal.

Secondly, you don't seem to realize why the agent keeps releasing the killer. He wants to cause the killer as much pain as possible. Thanks to tracker, the agent believed he would always know where the killer is. Killing him or putting him in jail wouldn't satisfy the agent's lust for revenge.

This is a point that people don't seem to understand: just because you come up with a new idea for the vigilante formula doesn't mean it's good, or that it makes sense. This movie is just stupid, and seems to only exist to watch a bad guy murder and rape people while an incompetent cop aids and abets him. It's a fetish movie.


Did you fall asleep during the part where the agent got the tracker? Just wondering.

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If you thought this didn't make sense, then you'd better stay away from the whole genre of Korean thrillers.

Many of them center around a twisted vengeance, and many of them are based on graphic novels. The characters are like batman, spiderman, etc, but they take the brutal approach to justice one step further.

It's not supposed to be realistic or make sense.

Why don't you pull Bill Finger out of the grave and tell him that, "Batman is too brooding, too ruthless and bizarre. Re-write him and make him more like a regular old gumshoe! This is all just non-sensical!"

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The catching and letting go was part of the torture. You extreme dullard.

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So you want a stupid movie with an original idea instead, right?

Geez, you may be one of the slowest guys on IMDB. And a huge douche.

If they were going to make a movie with this kinda plot (catch/release/recapture a serial killer), perhaps the movie should have done a better job at explaining why this makes sense or have us understand why the main character did this. All the movie did to explain it was "guy has fiance killed, he snaps". Well, when people snap they want revenge. When they get revenge they either straight out kill the murder or capture, torture then kill. The whole *beep* releasing the murderer thing makes no sense without a better written story.

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Maybe you should try it with the subtitles on. I think I would understand the motive behind the main characters actions without subs. I don't get what is hard to understand about this. You people are upset that he released the killer? Did you not pick up on one of the dozen times when the main character explains why he is doing this?

And what is torture porn? I never got that. This film had like one breast shown in it. Are you suggesting people masturbate while someone is suffering on screen? If they do, how does that even affect you? So Unthinkable is torture porn? Or does it need to have a woman even if she is clothed?

Anyway, I thought it was a decent film. Not emotional enough and I see that a lot from SK films. But I liked it, better than another Hollywood thriller of 2 hours chasing a bad guy and shooting him right before he kills the girl.

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Torture porn? I think you replied to the wrong guy.

The motives behind the main character are stupid and never fully explained. Why is HE different than every other person who has had someone in their lives killed? Why would it lead to capture/torture/release and repeat? Please explain to me the dozen or so times it was mentioned why he did it AND why it makes sense for someone to act in that manner? You can't!! You just have to forget that major part of the movie and just enjoy the 'fun' of the capture/torture/release.

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"Please explain to me the dozen or so times it was mentioned why he did it AND why it makes sense for someone to act in that manner? You can't!!"

Did you miss the part where he promised his dead fiancée that he'd make the killer feel ten thousand times the pain he'd caused her? He'd already broken a promise to her. He didn't want to break a second one. It's pretty straightforward really. Plus, after the woman you love is horribly butchered you're unlikely to be in the most predictable or rational mindset.

"Why is HE different than every other person who has had someone in their lives killed?"

Well, because everyone is different? Everyone reacts in a unique way to tragedy. Who's to say what someone else might or might not do after such an event? Plus because of his job he actually had the means to enact revenge, unlike the majority of people who suffer through the murder of a loved one.

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i agree with u man.

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Of course you would.

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This film is stupid, immature, and lacks complexity in message.

Babe 2: Pig in the City is by far the best talking pig movie of the last three hundred years.

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At least we can agree on A Tale of Two Sisters being stupid.

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Yeah, that movie got awful quickly.

Babe 2: Pig in the City is by far the best talking pig movie of the last three hundred years.

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+1

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I LMAO when I read, "...It's all part of the plan that makes no sense."

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the fact that he retrieves a ring from the grate when it's not visible


It was visible to him.

when the cop breaks the padlock on the top drawer, then opens the two unpadlocked bottom drawers


Why not check all of the drawers?

the stupidity of "these are the people accused of similar crimes" - accused of beating, kidnapping, and dismembering women then scattering their body parts?!?)


You think only one person has dismembered people? There's a reason why the list of suspects was so small.

this movie is stupid.


You got any good points?

He catches the killer, then lets him go to kill and rape again ... then catches him, to let him go to kill and rape again ... sure, stab my two friends!


Nope.

You know that the killer had a tracker inside him, right? That's why the hero kept letting him go.

It's all part of a plan that makes no sense!


The plan isn't hard to figure out. The agent (he's not a cop), really wants to hurt the killer.

This is just a stupid movie for indiscriminate fetishists.


This is a stupid poster with stupid complaints.

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You got it. Mostly. The other drawers were locked and there's a jump cut from the opening and examination of the top drawer - during which we assume that the other locks were likewise broken. No big deal and I see no problem.

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Sometimes I wonder why people pop up and bitch about *beep* when they don't even bother to pay attention. Just stay away from Korean cinema and go back to watching boring Hollywood "thrillers" with ridiculous plots. How about "The Mechanic". "Oh u killed mah dad, so im gonna become ur student but den tri 2 kill u secretly even tho i no u'er a master killer n e wey!"

Yep, totally makes sense and is amazing. Even though I still liked that movie just because Jason Statham is such a badass, but still.

Dunno what was so hard about realizing that the reason he kept letting him go is because he wanted to truly make the bastard suffer, and it was easy to find him because he put a tracker in him. I watched this movie after being awake for over 24 hours and still caught that. A dense bunch who expect every single part of the film spoon-fed to them on a silver platter. Learn how to pay attention.

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"How about "The Mechanic". "Oh u killed mah dad, so im gonna become ur student but den tri 2 kill u secretly even tho i no u'er a master killer n e wey!"

Try the 1972 version; it's actually really good.

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Bunch more

Even if I get that he wanted to harass the killer by releasing him repeatedly, was he really that brain dead that he didn't realize he would kill other people. Why not maim him more than and make him more harmless to innocent people?

He managed to kill and harm that many people despite having a broken hand and cut off hamstring? All his victims should be able to run circles around him. And he wasn't that big that he would have been a threat with only one working hand.

How retarded have you be to not figure out he'll be coming after your family if he figured out who you are? He seriously had to waste that time and drive to the hospital to question the cannibal?

How many serial killers are there in South Korea? Seems like you have a 50/50 chance everytime you meet a person.

How the hell could a cannibal be killing people for years without anybody noticing? It wasn't either like he only eat human meat at special occasion, he went through his victims pretty fast in the movie. Same thing with the main killer, how on earth wasn't he caught earlier when he was as sloppy as he was. He didn't even move around, but stayed at the same place.

If you're suspected of being a serial killer, you're allowed to drive a school van for teenage girls?

South Korean Secret Agents don't have access to guns. I get that he didn't want to kill him, but not bringing a gun for even backup was just stupid.

The ending when he picked up the killer with the car, what the hell was that? Wasn't even remotely plausible. Even if he managed to do such an incredible trick without the killer jumping out of the way, what stopped the killer from stabbing him to death? They just cutaway and the killer was magically secured in ropes later.

If this movie was American and not Korean, the ratings would have been way lower. I was immensely disappointed in this movie. It's just more or less a torture porn movie with a bad script. I've seen two other Jee-woon Kim movies, Tale of Two sisters and The good, the bad the weird were leagues better than this movie.


"Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down. Makes her home."

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The fact there has been no rebuttal to the points raised says it all. I'm all for different films, but as the ponze says this film was inane, there were more holes in the story than a lump of Swiss cheese

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ok ill give u rebuttal. his main point is that the "good" guy let the bad guy out so he got to kill/maim/rape several people. now, imagine you hate joe, and you want to hurt joe more than you care about other people. now joes a hunter so the best way to hurt him is to let him roam around and just when he feels safe u pop out and bone him. like joe got himself this pretty little 22 year old nurse, and he is all with his cock in her pretty little mouth, and u pop out and cut his hamstring. blue balls + cut hamstring = gg wp... but only if u dont care about the pretty 22 year old hit nurse. i think that was the whole idea of the movie. he did not give a *beep* about anything or anyone, tunnel vision bro.

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and u pop out and cut his hamstring.
You're the second person who said hamstring. Where do you get this? Do you just pull stuff out of thin air? It was his Achilles tendon FFS!! Lemme see, I have no idea what I'm talking about so I'll just pull an arbitrary body part out of my arse and sound like an idiot.

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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Apples and oranges mate (chilone).

For some people, however wrongly, "hamstring" and "Achilles tendon" tends to be the same thing. The poster didn't just pull out some "random body part out of his ass" (and as you also claim he is not the first one to mention it), he just thought it was it and got it wrong. Perhaps he didn't quite realize it or thought they are the same thing or something similar.

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Also, does it being "Achilles tendon" instead of "hamstring" actually make the scene and what happens in it more plausible and less unrealistic? As in - if that part was cut off, he shouldn't then have a problem with moving and around and killing others despite his massive unhealed injury? Which is really what that user and one other is getting at more than whether it was "hamstring" or an "Achilles tendon".

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Even if I get that he wanted to harass the killer by releasing him repeatedly, was he really that brain dead that he didn't realize he would kill other people. Why not maim him more than and make him more harmless to innocent people?

He didn't care. All he could think about was revenge. Is that really so hard to grasp? Anger makes you act recklessly.

How retarded have you be to not figure out he'll be coming after your family if he figured out who you are? He seriously had to waste that time and drive to the hospital to question the cannibal?

Why would he just assume that? As far as he knows, this guy is just trying to get away.

How many serial killers are there in South Korea? Seems like you have a 50/50 chance everytime you meet a person.

Yeah, five or six people is really a 50/50 chance

How the hell could a cannibal be killing people for years without anybody noticing? It wasn't either like he only eat human meat at special occasion, he went through his victims pretty fast in the movie. Same thing with the main killer, how on earth wasn't he caught earlier when he was as sloppy as he was. He didn't even move around, but stayed at the same place.

I don't know, try asking real life serial killers who have gotten away with their crimes for roughly that long under similar circumstances.

South Korean Secret Agents don't have access to guns. I get that he didn't want to kill him, but not bringing a gun for even backup was just stupid.

Not the most logical move on his part, but considering his state of mind, I don't expect him to be perfect.

The ending when he picked up the killer with the car, what the hell was that? Wasn't even remotely plausible.

So you've never seen a crime thriller or action movie before in your life.

Even if he managed to do such an incredible trick without the killer jumping out of the way, what stopped the killer from stabbing him to death?

First off, the killer wasn't exactly in prime condition for jumping.

Secondly, it's been proven throughout the film the killer is vastly inferior to the agent in fighting, and he was face down, probably got knocked out with a few good elbows to the back of the head.

If this movie was American and not Korean, the ratings would have been way lower.

Oh yeah, that's why there are Korean films I don't like, cause I love them simply for national origins

I was immensely disappointed in this movie. It's just more or less a torture porn movie with a bad script.

Torture porn?Were you just umping at the chance to whip that gem of a label out?

Here's a hint: if you don't like brutal, stylized revenge thrillers, don't watch brutal, stylized revenge thrillers.

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Well, you conveniently forgot to answer the point about a suspected serial killer being allowed to drive a school van for teenagers...

Also:
- What happened to the police who stormed in the school looking for the killer? Did they go "Oh, too bad we missed the suspect, forget it, let's just go home and stare at doorknobs!" without trying to locate him/his house? (someone must have known him since he was the school van driver)

- what happened to the police that wanted to stop Kim Soo-hyeon vengeance? Couldn't have they asked the old chief his phone number? or tracked his cell phone/location? or stopped him at the hospital with the suspect instead of letting Soo-hyeon take the guy out to resume the chase from the railway tunnel?

- Since the killer leaving the railway tunnel (in the middle of nowhere) almost immediately reveals he knows about the tracking-pill, how far was Soo-hyeon with his superfastSUV not to be able to reach the guy before he could limp-walk to the first chemist's?

- The cannibal's watchdogs seemed to be pretty blood thirsty and easy to get alarmed, how could Soo-hyeon enter the house unnoticed?

- What's the point of having police at all in Korea if a serial killer can stop his car in the middle of the road in front of dozens of cops, come out with a butcher knife and stand around for a few minutes without being surrounded or taken down within seconds? Did they think he was holding a toy knife and being covered with tomato sauce? Could nobody follow the car leaving? The guy had killed several girls, including an ex-police chief and his daughters, wouldn't you get a police car or two (if not an helicopter) ready just in case he decides not to turn himself in easily?

- After the killer mutilated and killed the old chief and his daughter, mocked his hunter and almost got away with it (Soo-hyeon impossibly manages to drag a psycho in the car, disarm him and tie him while driving), all Soo-hyeon could do to top this lenghty (140min) supposedly mad quest for hellish revenge is...stick a screwdriver in a cheek, cry in front of him, and let someone else chop his head (btw the killer himself could have done that quickly, since he said he was ready to die asap). What a glorious revenge.

P.S.: Those who say the whole idea is so unheard-of must have continuously blinked for years and missed all the vigilantes/cops-getting-their-family-killed-and-going-for-personal-vendetta movies that have been produced since the 60s. Check those with "Revenge" in the title first, but don't be too surprised when you'll find plots way more original than ISTD's.

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'Since the killer leaving the railway tunnel (in the middle of nowhere) almost immediately reveals he knows about the tracking-pill, how far was Soo-hyeon with his superfastSUV not to be able to reach the guy before he could limp-walk to the first chemist's?'

There could have been traffic around even with a fast SUV, You can't get through 2-way traffic with any speed car you own.

'The cannibal's watchdogs seemed to be pretty blood thirsty and easy to get alarmed, how could Soo-hyeon enter the house unnoticed? '

I think Soo-hyeon's skills could have helped him get passed the dogs unnoticed, I'm sure he could have been stealth.

'What's the point of having police at all in Korea if a serial killer can stop his car in the middle of the road in front of dozens of cops, come out with a butcher knife and stand around for a few minutes without being surrounded or taken down within seconds? Did they think he was holding a toy knife and being covered with tomato sauce? Could nobody follow the car leaving? The guy had killed several girls, including an ex-police chief and his daughters, wouldn't you get a police car or two (if not an helicopter) ready just in case he decides not to turn himself in easily?'

The police i'm sure were shocked that it was actually him, They knew he was dangerous and could have hurt them, They did not know what to do at that moment.

'After the killer mutilated and killed the old chief and his daughter, mocked his hunter and almost got away with it (Soo-hyeon impossibly manages to drag a psycho in the car, disarm him and tie him while driving), all Soo-hyeon could do to top this lenghty (140min) supposedly mad quest for hellish revenge is...stick a screwdriver in a cheek, cry in front of him, and let someone else chop his head (btw the killer himself could have done that quickly, since he said he was ready to die asap)'

First off, Soo-hyeon could have pulled to some side-road or wherever get him out of the car and tie him up, The cops were not following him for some reason so he could have done that. I'm sure the killer dropped his weapon while getting dragged into the car as rough as that. And who knows what else Soo-hyeon did to the killer off camera in that room, then just cut his cheek.

That answers most your questions, It's still a flawed film, but it is thrlling while your watching it and made me remember why i love film making.

And i don't what films you like,(probably some love drama) but this film has qualities in it that makes it a great film.







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A few more:

Why would the taxi driver and the guy in the cab pick up a passenger when they have a corpse in the trunk?

How would the killer know where to find his cannibal friend? It was mentioned that they just arrived and settled in that house, and that the house belonged to the girl they were about to kill.

And the biggest plot hole: a microphone placed inside the killer's stomach manages to pick up clear audio??? Wouldn't it be picking up gastric noises etc.? At the very least there will be some serious distortion.


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"And the biggest plot hole: a microphone placed inside the killer's stomach manages to pick up clear audio??? Wouldn't it be picking up gastric noises etc.? At the very least there will be some serious distortion."

Is that really a PLOT HOLE though? It may be a small goof or some sort of artistic license or maybe some of those microphones from spies were quite advanced by 2010 as well, we may not know fully how it works but who knows, with right technology and all...? And even if it was completely unrealistic, I don't think the term "plot hole" fits here.

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"Even if I get that he wanted to harass the killer by releasing him repeatedly"
He wanted much MORE than just to merely "harass" him, he wanted to destroy him spiritually completely as an act of brutal vengeance.

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"Even if I get that he wanted to harass the killer by releasing him repeatedly, was he really that brain dead that he didn't realize he would kill other people. Why not maim him more than and make him more harmless to innocent people?"

Its also possible, besides his disturbed mental state, that he underestimated the killer's strength and ability to either recover or perform such murderous deed despite his injuries, and he really wasn't sure what more he could've done without outright killing him in the process, which is what he wanted to avoid doing in the name of prolonging the cat and mouse chase and then exact his massive vengeance on him.

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I don't understand why people get so agitated by this movie that they have to rant about it on this board 24/7. Move on. Watch other movies that are (hopefully for you) better. It's just so damn tiresome to see all these posts that more or less claims that people who liked the movie are stupid.

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People who like this movie are soulless sjiteheads who do not know right from wrong. I love vigilante movies but do not confuse this incoherent sadism for ethical in any way.Purely for morons. Almost as warped as Oldboy.

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