knives over forks


In response to those who can't see any further than a USDA food poster, who have reviewed this film:

The UK government spends £1.2 Billion annually, on treating illness as a direct result of meat and dairy consumption, in line with a recent Oxford University study, commissioned by the Soil Association 2010.

You think meat/dairy consumption is healthy, then you are more deluded than you sound.

Consider the earliest known time at which man was unequivocally known to have used fire to cook, some 128,000 years ago. There is no way we could have evolved significantly enough in that time to consume 'cooked' meat....as well as our sliding/grinding jaw movement....the health statistics prove it! How many Omnivores in the wild do you know of, that actually 'cook' their meat because they cannot digest it raw, EXACTLY, try waking up a little, we are herbivores!
Einstein found the truth a little late: http://tinyurl.com/3yrhhzw but he found it!!

Over 600,000 new cases of stroke in America EVERY year, says research(?) carried out in 'Argentina' of all places (showing no link to red meat consumption and cancer) that produce huge volumes of meat is misconstrued, or perhaps papers fiddled at source?! Put it to the test and commission Oxford University to research there, instead of referring to government backed 'doctors' that do the research.

I sincerely hope your tap water doesn't become polluted due to the run off from a vast slurry lagoon at a Super Dairy or Super farm....the meat/dairy industries are a global menace and must be dealt with accordingly.

As for your references to Vegans, I think you need to seriously reconsider your misconceptions. I personally am a 210lb Vegan weightlifter and athlete, vegan for over 6 years, pescatarian 3 years previously (still gaining muscle mass on 40g of plant protein per day).....my main aim is to promote good health (because I don't know a single family personally that has not been inflicted by a dietary disorder and or death). I am a humanist AND animal lover.....so please reconsider to change perceptions now, because people are suffering due to misinformation regarding diet.

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I am food scientist. The human brain and body evolved from a diet of high fat and protein after millions of years. Cavemen would only resort to grain if they were starving. Most vegans I know are in awful shape. Soy is a terrible source of protein and most of that adulterated vegan processed garbage has more preservatives than a Big Mac and Large French Fry.

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you must work for factory farming. and not sure what vegans you know but all i've ever known and know of (athletes, actors, etc...) are in great shape

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I've heard the screams of the vegetables
Watching their skins being peeled
Grated and steamed with no mercy
How do you think that feels
Carrot juice constitutes murder
Greenhouses prisons for slaves
It's time to stop all this gardening
Let's call a spade a spade


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I find it really interesting that how people trying to push a certain agenda fail to just ignore other factors contributing to what they insist are only the negative results of not following their advise.

For instance, when someone makes sweeping statements says that most ill-health today is caused by one factor, other serious issues (pollution, West's prescribed drug addiction problem, sugar epidemic etc.) just suddenly stop being factors affecting the quality of life and it's all down to one factor, in this case meat!

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if I remember this documentary correctly it was about more than meat, it was about how the standard western diet is awful for human health. meat is a huge part of that, but not the only part. I've seen dozens of health/food documentaries so maybe I'm lumping info from some of those into FOK.

the things you mentioned are related to meat. pollution - factory farming is more environmentally harmful than all the vehicles on the road, planes in the air, and boats on the water combined. addiction to pills? addiction is a mental illness with physical symptoms, and not everyone on pills is a huge meat eater, but the standard western diet leads to illness which leads to prescription medication, and a plant based diet, and exercise, eliminates the needs for most prescription medication.

to use a food analogy peel the layers of the onion. meat is linked to dozens of maladies

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