Why I Hate Rush


It's sometimes hard to articulate why I don't like this band. The 3 guys mostly seem pretty cool and are obviously talented musicians. Taste in music is subjective and if you like them, great. But there is no denying this is a polarizing band.

I don't like their music because it appears devoid of any outside influence. Rush plays so precise but without any passion-- it is like their music was made in a vacuum sealed off from all human exposure. When I hear a band I like, the Stones or U2 or Wilco, I can hear generations of musical influence. With Rush, I hear a bunch of soul-less robots. Maybe that comes from being a Canadian band where there are not many black people and it's too freaking cold to go outside or something. Plus, there lyrics are incredibly heavy-handed--no nuance, nothing left to the imagination. If you dig them, great. But I thought I'd take a stab at why some people don't like them.

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"Maybe that comes from being a Canadian band where there are not many black people and it's too freaking cold to go outside or something."

Probably the MOST IGNORANT statement I have EVER read on IMDB... WOW and NO ONE has commented on this???? KID, there ARE BLACK PEOPLE in Canada and we DO have SPRING, SUMMER, FALL and WINTER and NO, we do NOT live in IGLOOS. WOW, your entire post has NO credibility due to your extreme lack of intelligence.

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I was only half-serious about that comment. But according to wikipedia only 2.5 of the Canadian population is black. So, while blacks exist in that country, there are not very many. Is it a coincidence that America's hat gives us such crappy bands?

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Are you implying America is currently producing a great line of rock bands/musical artists? Holy cow, look at the Billboard charts...it's filled with non-musical garbage that has is devoid of any musical integrity. Rap/hip-hop junk that is mind-numbingly soulless, to use your word. Usher, Pitbull, Drake, Justin Frickin' Bieber, (yes I know he's also Canadian) , Nicki Minaj, Flo Rida, 2 new boy bands who will be gone in a couple of years, some new nobody named Tyga....half of these people use street names and put up some kind of phony facade to hide the fact that they're succeeding in a below average game. Very few geniune rock bands that can clearly play instruments and write good songs. Sure there's a Maroon 5, a Coldplay (who are British) thrown in there. But over all, today's music deserves to be ignored and dismissed because they are all copying the same old crap that for some reason is popular. But you're not a fan of Rush because they create their own sound rather than follow the other brain-dead lemmings over the cliff? Makes no sense.
You don't like them, and that's fine. I'm not going to suggest songs to listen to. They're just not your thing, but it seems you dismiss them for the wrong reasons. You mentioned that you like the Stones and I think those guys are incredibly overrated. Granted even I concede that Satisfaction, Jumping Jack Flash, and Brown Sugar are catchy tunes...but weren't those all written in the 60's? They haven't done anything that soudns good since then. They are not proficient at the their craft. Mickey Moose Lips? Lousy singer. Charlie Watts? I am surprised he doesn't fall asleep during their own concerts. I was able to play all of his parts after one drum lesson when I was 12. Lousy back up vocals, anemic guitar sounds, and virtually evertything they've done for 30 years all sounds like same old lousy crap. Rush? They don't want to be bored, and they don't want us to get bored with them, so they change their sound and theme every single album. And aside from a few clunkers (Half of Presto, and virtually all of Snakes and Arrows, anyone?) they've succeeded in being immesly diverse over the years and kept us interested and on our toes. That's why they're awesome.

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rsr26, I'm not trying to offend you, and I did take into consideration the fact that this thread is several years old.
That said, you've clearly established, and even admitted, that you are fairly clueless re any musical aspects that go beyond surface forms so I'll refrain from arguing my points vis-à-vis your, IMO, skewed perspective on Rush. But you are entirely right: it is a polarizing band. As such, I do appreciate your thread as I've often wondered why it's so; on this I'd rather hear from cogent "haters" than rabid fans. I myself have a weird relationship with Rush, but have nothing but respect for those guys.
So that's fine if you don't like them, no problems there, especially as you seem to be able to express some respect for them. However, your reasons are, for the most part, lame, for they do come through as a form of ignorance rather than valid criticisms albeit they may well be the justifications you've arrived at for very valid feelings.

This is true about several points made but your initial comment re Canada truly marks you as someone with very little culture (damn happy to see someone finally brought it up) and this last reply screams it, loudly, while it also pegs you as someone with zero knowledge of the music industry and its problems. Ditto re history (musical and otherwise?), not to mention that I sense limited tastes, though I could be wrong (or that it may no longer apply).
A quick example: how do you explain that the Scandinavian countries, with virtually no black population to speak of, is currently the dominant place for some of the world's best, most innovative jazz? Isn't jazz one of the rare art forms that's 100% U.S. (due to slavery)? Do you see how lame your thinking is re blacks and Canadian bands (and/or all bands)? Do I need to explain it in long-form?

AND BTW: Thinking like a true navel, I take it you're using America to refer to the U.S. rather than its wider, intended original definition (i.e. North and South America)? Well, if Canada is America's hat, then I've no doubt that the U.S. must be Canada's soiled underpants!





Ignorance is bliss... 'til it posts on the Internet, then, it's annoying.

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by Danimal_77 » Sun Jan 15 2012 01:29:47
"Maybe that comes from being a Canadian band where there are not many black people and it's too freaking cold to go outside or something."

Probably the MOST IGNORANT statement I have EVER read on IMDB... WOW and NO ONE has commented on this???? KID, there ARE BLACK PEOPLE in Canada and we DO have SPRING, SUMMER, FALL and WINTER and NO, we do NOT live in IGLOOS. WOW, your entire post has NO credibility due to your extreme lack of intelligence.
Uhhh... excuse me?
by beersandshots » Thu Sep 15 2011 14:36:55
From the OP--

Maybe that comes from being a Canadian band where there are not many black people and it's too freaking cold to go outside or something.



Over a year and nobody brought that statement up?? Sorry, fellow fans, but you've been talking to a box of rocks.
It is only two (and one deleted) posts above yours. Evidently that's four months in IMDb years.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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Cause you're an idiot. To say that a band like Rush has no passion means you're too stupid to understand what that word means.

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Rush is the very definition of passion in music. Their music, lyrics and talent all display this passion and love, and those that don't see it, hear it or feel it have something wrong with them. It's fair to say you don't like their music, but your reasons are false and made up. I'm fairly certain your comment was made just to see how many people responded rather then to see the type of responses you got. I also think being they don't have a true front man(solo vocalist) like the bands you mention also plays a part into why you and others may think they have no passion. Lee isn't jumping around on stage and convulsing or posing like Bono does, he is heavily into the music both singing and playing an instrument. Something I've never seen Mick or Bono do in their entire careers apart from banging on a tambourine and maybe strumming some slow rhythms out on a guitar.

Just the dumbest musical comment I've ever seen started.

I'm a Metalhead, always have been. When I was 12-13 I was listening to Kreator, Slayer, Iron Maiden and Priest. About age 15 my more intelligent and mature gf got me into Rush. The first time I heard it, the first time I really listened to it, I thought it was some of the most passionate and heartfelt music I've ever heard other then some true classical pieces.

Rush is amazing to say the least.

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I've never said that the members of Rush are not elite musicians. No one would deny that. What is open to debate is whether their technical proficiency translates into great music. Because that is a subjective question, people are going to have different opinions. To those that like Rush, great. But to dismiss those that hate them, well you come off as musical elitists. You are more into their complex playing and time signatures, while I just prefer something that gets me moving. To each his own, man.

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I bet if you took a poll, allot of Rush fans play an Instrument.I will also bet half of their appreciation is based on how difficult it is to do and create what they do...at age 60? 3 Hour Concerts with no other Bands?

Its so hard to duplicate with regularity any of their songs, it makes it hard to get bored. The dedication to their careers and to the fans is to be applauded.

If you don`t like it, thats fine, I don`t like Guns and Roses cause Axls voice can sound like nails on a chalkboard after awhile..do I hate them? No.

the only Band that I would say I hate is Nickelcrack.

I think what you are trying to say in your last post my also apply to Dream Theater, they are technically proficient, but I find it boring, but they are fairly popular....I guess its like one person prefering Brunettes, and others prefering Blondes.

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I hated Rush for many, many years. Or at least I thought I did. Over time I realized that I actually liked a lot of their songs. What I really hated were typical Rush FANS. Chubby candyass twerps, glasses, pony tails and berets. Death's too good for 'em.

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How can you tell they're playing their music without any passion? Maybe your understanding of passion is a bit too one-dimensional to admit it.

U2 are only in it for the money. They're sold-out. Bono once mentioned 'the critism has to come to an end'. How can he do that after singing about Bloody Sunday?

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rsr26 is just living proof of why I hate people who hate Rush!

Illigitimi non Carborundum

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RS has trolled everyone itt, a musical elitist who pretends to be open and tolerant but secretly hates Rush and all their fans and wants to convince everyone to be the same. His prevarication is patently obvious and does not merit any serious response. /End thread.

PS: I love Rush but have no problem with anyone who doesn't (which includes many friends of mine) just as I don't personally like rap or country or teenage pop but have no problem with anyone who does (in fact I'm always glad when anyone enjoys any kind of music for the simple fact that it brings enjoyment into their lives which is good!), but then I'm a mature and humane, tolerant, affable person who has a healthy ego that hardly depends upon what others think of my personal music tastes (what am I, in junior high school?!) and not a petty little sophomoric hate filled elitist (if you're going to be elitist, at least be elitist about something worthwhile!) troll like OP and his ilk. :)

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Lol "secretly hate Rush"?


Look at thread title.

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by - rsr26 on Wed Sep 8 2010 08:00:18

I don't like their music because it appears devoid of any outside influence...


I hear lots of Zeppelin, The Who, The Police, U2, 70's English prog-rock... each album has different influences and as the album releases progress through time, their ever-evolving sound reflects whatever the band were listening to during that period. This ran from their debut album through to about the mid 90's, when they finally stopped seeming to absorb new influences.

If anything, Rush music has reflected their influences a little too much over the years.

All Art is pretense.

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The OP is entitled to his opinion. But I think he trolled it just to argue.

Mission accomplished, my good sir. Mission accomplished.

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