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If you think the story of Exodus is "Christian" you are very ignorant...


I just read a thread on here entitled "atheists shouldn't be directing christian films"... good lord did that piss me off.

There is not one single "christian" thing in the entire book of Exodus, nor is there a single christian character in the story of Moses. Exodus is the single most JEWISH tale in the entire bible, and although I am agnostic myself, as a person of Jewish heritage, I found his mindbogglingly offensive.

To call this a "christian" movie would be a kin to a Muslim declaring Passion of the Christ an Islamic treasure! Wow did this get me heated.

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Your right it isnt Christian. Because Christians didnt come to be until Christ. This was long before Jesus. Therefore it is not a Christian setting at all. The movie was horrible. Followed very little in the biblical sense.

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You're. Didn't read the rest.

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Exodus is the single most JEWISH tale in the entire bible, and although I am agnostic myself, as a person of Jewish heritage, I found his mindbogglingly offensive.
Offensive? Why?

Christians associate themselves with the story of Exodus too, since the story also occurs in the Christian Bible. A person who writes that "atheists shouldn't be directing christian films" (in the context of this movie) is referring to that and is probably not aware that Jewish Scripture is where Exodus originates from; so yes, that person would indeed be ignorant (in the sense of that he simply doesn't know any better)*. But is that a reason to feel very offended?

Movies like this are for a very significant (if not major) part aimed at and marketed towards the Christian demographic of the American and European population (i.e. the filmmakers/producers are hoping to make their profit from Westerners with a Christian background, who'd be interested in another movie adaptation of a Bible story), so from that standpoint this movie can be called a "Christian film". In a similar vein, The Prince Of Egypt (1998) is called a children's film, even though children have really nothing to do with the story.

By the way, Christianity is of Jewish heritage too (or at least the first Christians were).


[*] Another argument is that the person who wrote that thread is probably a Christian himself, and that he wouldn't want to pretend to speak also for Jewish people. All he knows is that he, as a Christian, feels that the story of Exodus shouldn't be adapted by a director who has an atheistic view on God. But he is not in a position to say "atheists shouldn't be directing Jewish films", because he doesn't know how Jewish people feel about an atheist director making this movie; that's why he worded his complaint in the (arguably unfortunate, clumsy and/or ignorant) way he did.

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Stupid analogy with the Muslim and The Passion.

Jesus - the Jew, mind you - said the entire Hebrew Scriptures spoke of him. The first Christians had a holy book - the same Scriptures the Jews read. Moses himself - the chap Bale played - appeared and spoke to Jesus. Everything that happened in the Hebrew Scriptures was intimately connected to the birth of Christianity.

I personally wouldn't call it a Christian film. But your outrage and example are based on ignorance. Even calling the film Christian is as much like your illustration as comparing a duck and a Volvo.

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Well said. OP is just another atheist with no knowledge of the bible, pretending they have knowledge of the bible.

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No.
Christian bible consists of both the old testament and the new. Its the story of God's people, Christian's are God's people.
Christianity goes back to Abraham, to Adam and Eve, its the fulfillment of all, the salvation from original sin. Talmudic jewry appeared somewhere in the first millenium and its an offshoot religion, they have no temple, no priesthood, so they invented new practices, nothing to do with old Hebrews.
You dont even have a bloodright to these stories, many hebrews accepted God incarnate and mixed with gentiles since they were all God's people now, the ones who didnt and wandered the earth rejecting the True God also mixed now and then with the host nations so everyone got Abraham's blood. For a reason God said that through his seed All nations would be blessed.

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If you think that this isn't a Christian story, then you don't know anything about what Christians believe.

Barring the man-worshipping "progressive Christians", the Old Testament is essential to the Christian faith.

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