Stupid plot. Unbelievable characters. Piper following a homicidal maniac without question (those stupid questions she asked were lame, no matter what the answer, she just follows him).
Amber Heard was wasted on this movie. Lots of crude sex, unfortunately not one involving Amber. What a waste.
The point of this film went completely over your head. Congratulations, you're a *beep* moron. Look up "Exploitation film" on Wikipedia.
shareReally? You don't believe Hollywood makes crappy movies? I actually enjoyed this well enough as a whole and loved Fichtner but you must not get out to the movies often if you are shocked to find that the quality is not uniformly excellent.
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Exploitation films are not bullet-proof. This one I wouldn't even count as real grindhouse cinema anyway - merely a feeble attempt at what balls-out exploitation films did without the merest bit of self-consciousness.
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So if you deliberately make a bad movie, using every exploitative plot element(fast old muscle cars, big guns, lots of violence, busty blondes, sex, etc.) you get a pass because it was all a big joke?
shareIts not a joke that's its intention... Its like going into a horror and expecting a comedy and crying that it didn't deliver laughs.
shareI can't believe Hollywood makes this kind of movie, because it's so unlike Hollywood. These types of movies are not made for the masses-- they're made for people who love grindhouse style movies, and sadly there aren't that many of us which is why these kinds of movies don't do so hot at the box office. Hollywood HATES movies like this, but the people who make and watch them love them. Directors have a blast making grindhouse movies, but they make the studios sweat because they are not the overproduced shiny turds that the mainstream audiences are used to.
shareThis isn't a grindhouse movie though is the problem. It's a wanna-be so watered down that it doesn't even qualify as such. It's got a big budget, multiple stars in the cast, is directed by someone with movie-making experience, was put out by a big studio into a lot of theaters, and had a lot of CGI.
This is the exact piece of overproduced shiny turd that you're speaking of by the way. It was most certainly made for the masses, a real hardcore grindhouse movie would appal the general movie going public, so we end up with stuff like this. Stuff that studio execs THINK is grindhouse, but is really just a generic imitation of one.
Don't get me wrong, this isn't the worst movie ever or anything, some of it is downright fun. But the other 90% of it is garbage, and the excuse that 'it's a grindhouse' doesn't fly when it really isn't one...
"You didn't like this movie? Go watch [insert completely opposite movie] instead"
The problem is that people are taking the film seriously. Whether you believe it's real Grindhouse or not. And there's nothing wrong trying to achieve to be one. After all, they're very fun films.
shareI loved every second of this movie.... and the whole time I was thinking "I'm gonna go on IMDB and there's going to be pretentious *beep* claiming it's stupid, crude garbage." It had great special effects, the 3D was awesome, the (anti)hero was the quintessential badass (and so was the accountant), it had loads of humor, a hot female, and Nic Cage driving a flaming Chevelle over Satanists while shotgunning them. What's not fun about that?
But no... these days everyone has to turn their noses up at any fun movie because it makes them somehow feel more intelligent or cultured than the "simpletons that watch this garbage".
Yeah, I get it. You're much too evolved for the kind of fun, mindless action films that I grew up loving in the 80's. Just like all those people that are way too cultured and intelligent for a "stupid, annoying gimmick" like 3D. Every film has to have at least one post about how some silly little thing is a "huge plothole" or a character's actions are "completely unbelievable and it ruined the whole movie" because people want to feel like they're smarter than, and above everyone else.
So yeah... go watch The Artist [completely opposite movie] and salivate at how amazing it is for using a format that was obsolete 80 freakin' years ago... I'll be enjoying the amazing technology we have in 2012 and sure as hell won't be concerned with proving anything to anyone based on my taste in film.
AMEN to everything you just said !! bravo my man.
shareCouldn't be more wrong my friend, but love the rant. Especially the last 1/2 where you go off on 3D, which has nothing to do with anything. I'm more into garbage movies than you could even comprehend though (especially cheesy ones from the 80s), but it's gotta be 'so bad it's good', or 'bad on purpose done well.' This is neither unfortunately. As I said, it's a down the middle generic studio film PRETENDING to be a fun old action flick. Crank or shoot em up is a much better example of what they were going for with this, just watch those instead.
You completely ignore the reasons I give as to why this movie sucks too, then make up some complaints I didn't bring up, then go on to rail against the things you made up. The things you listed are elements of the plot, not the movie itself. What about the pacing, writing, directing, editing, etc? NONE of those matter to you when evaluating a movie? How about the characters that add nothing gobbling up insane amounts of screen time? How about the lack of action (as I said, maybe 15 mins of solid footage in a 100 minute movie is bad), or stealing a scene word for word from shoot em up?
It's easy to defend a movie when you ignore the complaints set forth, make up your own reasons, then shoot them down...
"dude i dont care i just love this movie you guys have a realy taste in movies what wrong with you"
"and the whole time I was thinking "I'm gonna go on IMDB and there's going to be pretentious *beep* claiming it's stupid, crude garbage." "
*** - well, then, I think you may be more aware of the film's idiocy than even you give yourself credit for! If the entire time you're thinking of the cynicism this film will bring out amongst other moviegoers, you're looking at it in a critical, and I would say, healthy, way. It's good you have that persepctive! Those that guffaw and at this film in a straightforward, unironic manner I feel need the angle you have.
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"It had great special effects, the 3D was awesome, the (anti)hero was the quintessential badass (and so was the accountant), it had loads of humor, a hot female, and Nic Cage driving a flaming Chevelle over Satanists while shotgunning them. What's not fun about that?"
*** - the execution of said elements. Not the elements themselves. A good film is how it is about itself, not just what it is about.
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"But no... these days everyone has to turn their noses up at any fun movie because it makes them somehow feel more intelligent or cultured than the "simpletons that watch this garbage"."
*** - "everyone"? "any fun movie"? Quite a generalization here. And yes, I actually do think there is an appeal to recognizing the problems with "Drive Angry" versus other straight-on grindhouse films from the 1970s. To deny there is a dichotomy there, and have no perspective at all, is an uncultured approach - you're swallowing this moneymaker right down the way the boys at the studio hoped you would. What's wrong with recognizing the problems of the film and why it fails on that level?
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"Yeah, I get it. You're much too evolved for the kind of fun, mindless action films that I grew up loving in the 80's. Just like all those people that are way too cultured and intelligent for a "stupid, annoying gimmick" like 3D."
*** - Love myself a good action film from the 80s (grew up in that era, too). But why are you harping on those who diss "Drive Angry" and films like this? You seem very threatened by the criticism. Enjoy the film - shrug off the criticisms - or else admit to yourself that there might be something there. I like a good grindhouse film, but what I admire in the films "Drive Angry" is trying to emulate is their total un-selfconsciousness, something this film could use a lesson in.
Oh, and 3D is absolutely a "stupid, annoying gimmick". If you're calling those of us who recognize this "way too cultured and intelligent", thanks! I'll take that compliment any day over being so dense you can't recognize what a cynical manipulation of people and their money 3D generally is. I've seen it done well only very rarely ("Hugo", one of those 'cultured' films, comes to mind, and only because that film is *about* 3D while it uses it - in that sense the approach works).
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"Every film has to have at least one post about how some silly little thing is a "huge plothole" or a character's actions are "completely unbelievable and it ruined the whole movie" because people want to feel like they're smarter than, and above everyone else."
*** - Generalizations aside, I don't see what's at all wrong with holding Hollywood to a higher standard. I myself am not so insecure as to worry if I'm smarter than or above anyone else, but I would like to think I'm smarter than a bunch of lazy, committee-minded "filmmakers" who sucker the public out of that kind of money. Being smarter than the general crap we're being asked to constantly swallow from Hollywood is not something to be ashamed of.
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"So yeah... go watch The Artist [completely opposite movie] and salivate at how amazing it is for using a format that was obsolete 80 freakin' years ago... I'll be enjoying the amazing technology we have in 2012 and sure as hell won't be concerned with proving anything to anyone based on my taste in film."
*** - Will do. Haven't yet seen "The Artist", but I'm looking foreword to it. And the last sentence of your rant really doesn't make any sense at all. You've been doing exactly that - attempting to prove...something...about your taste in film. If you didn't care what anyone thinks, why post at all? Two cents.
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It had great special effects,
Megaton_A is absolutely correct. Couldn't have said it better myself. Loved the movie. I have a feeling I'll be watching this with my pals late at night many nights to come. Just a pure fun, bad-ass entertainment fest with excellent quotes, surprises, and over the top characters.
Can't anyone just enjoy a movie for what it is anymore?
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"Have a good time. ALL the time. That's my philosophy Marty"
This movie I can. But I have gone off the rails (read that on another board) on the remake of the Evil Dead. So be patience with us.
If we can save humanity, we become the caretakers of the world
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This.
So very this.
No there is nothing wrong with trying to achieve, Hobo With a Shotgun was awesome - Drive Angry is just $hit
share@Bearded - you nailed it. I was trying to pin down what was so....off about this movie - aand you got it. It's that utterly self-conscious, almost committee-like feel to the film - you can just imagine a bunch of executives "brainstorming" on how to "produce" a grindhouse film. In that it's a homage/emulation, this by proxy removes the film from the genre.
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re: Stuff that studio execs THINK is grindhouse, but is really just a generic imitation of one.
THANK YOU. What some people either forget or don't realize is that grindhouse/exploitation movies weren't INTENTIONALLY BAD movies. They just "were" -- the makers were just trying to make do with the materials at their disposal (no pun intended) and much of the humor in them was accidental. Drive Angry sucks for the same reasons Machete Kills was so disappointing -- silly cardboard characters, acting that's either bad (Amber Heard) or on autopilot (Cage), dialogue that sounds like it was written by an 8TH grader, etc., and because it's supposed to be "bad" people who should know better give it a pass. Kind of "the emperor's new clothes" in reverse.
>> This isn't a grindhouse movie though is the problem.
-- Well, maybe it is a grindhouse movie. Wikipedia says it is.
==> Grindhouse [www_Wikipedia_com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindhouse
The Robert Rodriguez film Planet Terror and the Quentin Tarantino film Death Proof, which were released together as Grindhouse, were created as an homage to the genre. Similar films such as Machete (also by Rodriguez), Chillerama and Drive Angry have appeared since.
i cant bellieve this crap gets made
drugs...changed...everything..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8MGBn3KawM&feature=related
I liked it. It was a good little "all action, no character development" style film. These movies are a bit of fun and this movie actually enforces that by using a few jokes. Who can take that fat guy taking a photo of the knocked-out naked woman seriously? I am also aware that this isn't for everyone - my uncle just today remarked what a dreadful movie it was, he gave it to me as a birthday gift(this was a while ago so don't start with the whole "Happy Birthday" crap on me). I do also agree with the OP on one point - Amber Heard should have been involved in at least one sex scene.
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this movie is absolutely amazing
haters are scum
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yes, it is an extremely stupid movie which would only appeal to pimple faced geeks who have no life and those who watch the movie with one hand under the blanket!
Nothing in the whole film makes any sense.
A movie best avoided.
You say “crude sex” like it’s a bad thing.
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