'Men get raped too' and Julia (Jennifer Aniston's character)

I think the issue here is a power issue.

For starters, most men could easily repel even the most persistent of would-be female rapists. So there's not really any serious "threat" in our mind when it comes to the idea of a female trying to rape a man.

Which brings me to my second point, even IF a woman was able to rape a man when he's unconscious, he's still a man when he wakes up. Unlike most women who get raped, the man who gets raped is more than capable of going after said female rapist and knocking the everlong crap out of her for violating him that way.

I don't really agree with the idea of men being raped being treated as a joke, but I can understand why a lot of men would be have trouble taking it seriously, ESPECIALLY if it's a woman attempting the rape.

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I am not a man (although I would identify as a civil rights activist), but a friend of mine is a therapist who works with male victims of sexual abuse, so you can probably guess my position on it.

There is a big difference between making sexual advances and making unwanted, repeated sexual advances. Ignoring how inappropriate Dale and Julia's relationship would have been with the whole boss/employee deal and that Dale was engaged, the fact that Julia wouldn't take no for an answer seems to elude most guys watching it, including Dale's buddies. Lots of guys who say "I wish she was MY boss" probably would take her up on her first offer, and presumably she'd never sexually harass/assault/rape them like what she was doing with Dale.

Again, although I'm not a guy, I KNOW there is an enormously unrecognized amount of men who HAVE been subjected to this humiliating, degrading situation. Many more probably don't realize it now, but even if a "hot lady" was trying to coerce them into sex despite repeated rejections, they wouldn't think it was okay or excusable. In fact, I think there's more shame and trauma with men because of this ignorant double-standard.

Yes, this is "just a movie" but "Birth of a Nation" was/is "just a movie" and that doesn't make it any less racist, just as this movie isn't any less sexist for trivializing sexual harassment.

Basically those guys you're talking about aren't MRAs, just anti-WRs. (Or at least incredibly misinformed.)

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There is absolutely no reason why a woman can't rape a man, and the idea that it isn't plausible is absurd. Every thing a man could do that would lead to the rape of a woman, be it overpowering them, drugging them, deceiving them, or putting them into any sort of forced situation are all just as likely. Additionally you may think that it's impossible for a man to get hard unless he wants to, but I can say for a fact that is not the case at all. For most men all it takes is for some one to initiate stimulation in order to get them to have an erection, but there are others routes as well such as various drugs which can be made available. It doesn't even have to be vaginal intercourse, any unwanted force sexual contact towards a woman can be considered rape, and so the same should apply to men.

The problem with men being raped, is often times the situation is never taken seriously thanks in great to the same thinking a lot of you people are sharing. It's sad living under the justice system we currently do where one group of people can be affected by a crime, but another can't, but more so they think it's absolutely ridiculous.

The problem with Dale becomes even worst because he was a registered sex offender. Our justice system would never take him seriously, and might even turn the tables saying HE raped her, all because of a simple mistake he made once. This is the kind of world we're living in right now, one where justice isn't blind, but actively discriminates.

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In all honesty, if you were in Dale's position, would you have raised a red flag with the cops about Julia or would you have given in to her advances?

Let's change genders and make George Clooney the dentist and Emma Stone the assistant. Is it as funny then? Should Emma have given in to his advancement?

Julia is definitely guilty of criminal sexual assault. It works (kinda) as comedy because Dale is a nebbish and Julia is played by the woman some organization called the Sexiest Woman Ever, or something like that.

Sure, most straight women would hit Clooney and most straight men would hit Aniston. But rape isn't about shared intimacy with consenting individuals - it's about coercion and the exercise and abuse of power. Dale said no, repeatedly, and that's all we need to know.

I don't think it's males getting mad at women for getting all the attention. More a sense of frustration when someone, male or female, doesn't acknowledge the fact that men can be helpless in situations like this. We all get it that someone like a Jerry Sandusky is committing a great crime when he abuses young boys, but in a case like Julia's and Dale's it doesn't seem as clear cut - primarily because the film set it up to make most of us wonder if Dale is crazy for *not* accepting Julia's advances.

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Oh for crying out loud, this thread is an insult to anyone who knows beans about crime statistics. For one, are you addressing just female on male rape? If you're addressing general rape statistics regarding males, it is predicted to be much higher than total crimes reported.

People do realize men rape other men, right? Also you people are, for some reason, imagining these hot babes coming on to dorky guys just begging for it like the movie. Often times it is either older women in authority forcing themselves on a guy (like women, fear of job loss, etc.) or the women is actually physically stronger; many male rapes are on teens and younger boys. Now as for women on a full grown man, that is rare unless the women uses drugs or some kind of restraint which does happen. Like women, men do not always know they were raped because they won't always feel any kind of pain from a forced rape; however they do sometimes realize it when they have a new std or they're now a dad! Likewise, society shames most rape victims, male or female, as if they deserved it or brought it on themselves. Since men have an ego, they are less inclined to report. And actually, a male raping a male is seen as very embarrassing to victims and so they don't report because they think it will mean they're gay. Last, you must consider what entails a rape. Some men are raped orally and because they gain the erection they think it was not forced. Like women, if you are forced to perform oral sex or have oral sex forced upon you, some do not consider that a rape.

Honestly, the movie is funny because who would turn down Jen Aniston? But I can assure you, the women who often rape do not look like that. Hell, you can look up mugshots if need be.

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If someone would thing that Aniston getting nasty and trying to get you to do her was rape....Then clearly they're on the other team. In fact the most ludicrous part of all this is that someone as uber hot as her would have to do anything special to get laid. I mean a burp and a nod to geto over there would work just fine for me....

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Definitely would have given in.

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Hi bxrosie-04,

I think this is highly sexist (or just wrong) what you are stating here. To say that rape against men by women doesnt exist or it's not a big deal is sexist. You can't use this movie as an example, I mean OF COURSE the men (myself included) would have slept with Anniston's character but saying that this is like saying men don't mind getting raped by women is wrong. It's like saying that there is a comedy where a man wants to rape a woman and that man is played by Brad Pitt, all my female friends they would love that, does that mean that rape against women is no big deal ??!!!!

You are COMPLETELY wrong. You are in the mind-set that anything against men is ok, not that serious comparing to women. And you use the "self-proclaimed men's right activists" as a silly notion, as nothing but a joke.

There is sexism against both genders yet if it's towards men it's considered a joke, like this movie shows. Imagine the roles reversed in this movie, then I bet you'd be complaining it's sexist.

I enjoyed this movie and found it funny, I'm just tired of the 'self-proclaimed feminists' always complaining when there is something that they don't like.

Look at our society, things have changed for women for the better (and it's good) but things for men have become unfair. Male-bashing is ok.

There is proof that violence against men is just as serious as violence against women yet its not taken serious.

Here are examples of double standards that I posted in another forum that I think is relevent here:


in the media and in any public forum if you say a joke against women it's sexist and if they are men they get fired and never work in any public platform again yet if a woman does the same toward men it's nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrvDhSB7GHk&feature=related

(it's the case where the wife cut off her husband’s penis off, and when talked about on this all-female show, they turned it into a joke even stating that it was good what she did, that every woman wants to do this....if an all-male show laughed about a man mutilating his wife's vagina, they would be fired)

Society says MEN should always pay on dates to be a gentleman (with most women's argument is that if we pay than he'll expect us to always pay, oh kind of like what women are doing right?) Women like to say men should pay because it’s what being a man is. Yet you can’t tell a woman what a being a lady is.

Men’s paycheck, should you get a divorce, does not belong to him. If she doesn't work, men have to support her a$$. This is unconstitutional against the equality act (women don’t pay alimony in almost all cases)

The men’s children, should they get a divorce, do not belong to him. If mom drops them off at the babysitter's house, try to pick up your kids without mom's verbal consent to the sitter.

Your half of the fetus, should you get a woman pregnant, does not belong to you. If she wants to abort, it's not your call. Yet if she wants to keep it, you have no choice but to pay child support.


I’m not saying everything is fair for women but we always hear their argument and never about the things that are sexist against men because society tells men they can’t complain. It even teaches boys that to be happy in life, you first have to make the girl happy, tht men have to put her first (why, it’s ridiculous...yet to tell a woman she has to put her man first...welll you never hear that)

Anyway, this statement you made is just plain idiotic. How can you compare a situation is a comedy to a serious issue in the real world???!!!!!!!!!!

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