The whole raping her while she was asleep was too far
Ya I know they gave him an out because she wasn't really asleep, but he thought she was asleep when he decided to do it.
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That's not rape. I wish you PC idiots would learn the difference. If he had sex with her while she was asleep, and then told her about it in the morning and she was fine with it, then the consent is still there. Not rape.
shareGetting consent after the fact doesn't make it right in the first place you *beep* moron
shareIn a relationship, yes, it does. If she was a random stranger, or someone he knew but had never had sex with before, then it would be different. But if it's your spouse or significant other, then yes, there is a difference.
shareActually in the eyes of the law there isn't, if you have sex without consent, ie she is asleep that is classed as rape that would count for your wife as well
shareNot if she consents after the fact.
shareThat's my *beep* point she didn't consent before the fact that's the issue
shareAnd I already explained to you, that as long as she consented AFTER the fact, then it's not rape. Plain and simple.
shareI'm not sure if I want to get tangled up in some message board argument, but just in case anyone reads this and believes it I'd like to point out that legally, yes it is rape. Consent after the fact doesn't change the elements of the crime, which basically makes it statutory rape. The reason it's confusing is because if she doesn't have a problem with it then of course she's never going to file a police complaint, so of course he wouldn't be charged and no prosecutor would try and nail him on it. But if she wanted to for some reason, she could.
Depending on where you live of course. Some states in the U.S. are starting to pass "yes means yes" laws meaning that you actually have to get a verbal ok from the other person otherwise it doesn't count as consent. Those that don't have this, it's more of a gray area because if it makes it all the way to a trial it is basically going to come down to who the jury believes is telling the truth.
Basically, just don't have sex with anybody without making sure it's cool beforehand. Assuming you're in the clear for something and then later finding out you shouldn't have done it is a bad move in all areas of law. Dumb simplified example: If you eat your coworkers lunch and they were fine with it then everything's cool. If they didn't want you to it's stealing. In both cases, not asking for permission technically makes it stealing, because the intent to take it was still there and you never asked for it. Only sex is a lot more serious than lunch.
Sorry that was kinda long. I think we can all agree this season has been pretty bad compared to the earlier ones.
Some states in the U.S. are starting to pass "yes means yes"
No states have passed any such law, In NY and California, college campuses have passed by-laws but not on a state authorized level
Theyre married, its not as if they havent done that before either, when Jenny and kevin both agreed to say "this wasnt the first time"
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In NY and California, college campuses have passed by-laws but not on a state authorized level
Thanks for proving, yet again, that you are an ignorant, retarded jackass!!
"California has defined in law just when "yes means yes'' on college campuses.
The state Senate unanimously approved legislation Thursday that, according to its sponsor, will change how campus officials investigate sexual assault allegations.
Gov. Jerry Brown announced Sunday night that he had signed the bill."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2014/08/28/california-bill-yes-means-yes-sex-assault/14765665/
Reality, yet again, proves you wrong, and you, yet again, prove yourself to be an ignorant, retarded jackass!!
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Well look whos following who now
Yes that set the standard ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES
not outside of campuses
do i affect you that much, that you followed me to the League thread and di research on your own
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I love it, please keep going
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The college laws are authorized on a state level, you ignorant, retarded jackass!
I love it, please keep going
You make it easy to expose you for the ignorant, retarded jackass that you are! share
So if a law is passed within the college it extends to the state?
i dont think the elastic clause of the constitution covered that
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How am I wrong
Law is passed On COLLEGE CAMPUSES
you think it extended to the rest of the state
You are wrong
There is no debating
Keep your beak in conversations you have a clue in, not the real stuff, it flies over your head
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No, that's not what I think, you ignorant, retarded jackass!
LOL at you being so angry and butthurt you're sending endless private messages! You ruined jackass!!
Its not what you think
its your inability to read
Its okay, anyone who interacts on here knows what youre all about
Laws on college campuses extend to the rest of the state according to you LOL
Do you even watch "The League"?
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Thanks for proving, yet again, that you are an ignorant, retarded jackass!!
Nothing is proven besides your hard on for me
For laws made on college campuses, do those laws extend to the rest of the state?
The answer is no they do not
so Kevin MacArthur was not raping his wife Jenny MacArthur during that scene in last weeks episode of the League
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Umm, no. She cannot because, she wasn't sleeping. She consented the whole time......
love how you just ended all that. your view on the whole show=2 sentences. the thing about rape=essay
not hating just saying it's kind of funny.
I mean regardless of its was or not (it's seems like it was but...) really in the end it was just another lazy episode filler storyline that was absolutely terrible and will never be talked about again. Was it creepy? Yes, but the this show has pulled back no punches to hit its juvenile humor quota. I wouldn't make a big deal about this show putting crap in it to fill time, because that's all the last 4 seasons have been
shareMy girlfriend woke me up with a blowjob the other day, should I turn her in for being a rapist?
The point is that if you felt violated, yes you could.
sharethat's what I'm thinking. but I guess in the case of you didn't like it cause you were asleep and then told her that, it will just never happen again or that's rape. and plus their married it's not a having sex with a person you don't know at a party who pass out.
shareOP was raped as a child. Get off son.
shareSo there was a rape joke in the episode. Oooh.
I'm having trouble with a patient of mine; he's a teenage drug addict who's being molested. By me.
stop arguing morons... no one can sleep through it unless on some seriously heavy heavy stuff...
Look inside yourself and understand the universe
Idiot. It's not about the episode anymore. This is a bigger problem where men think they had the right to sex even if the woman doesn't consent
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