An American version?


Let me start out by saying I am an American, and this is a epic bad idea.

Like many Americans, I would love to this movie, but it hasn't been released in the US. According to many sources, they state that the producers haven't found a distrubator for the US release. What strikes me strange though, is that Paramont Pictures logo is the first thing you see in the trailer, and Paramont IS a major distrubator in the US. So, this has me thinking.

It would not be unlike Hollywood to "Americanize" this movie, moving the setting from Australia to California and changing the cast. This is a terrible idea which disrespects the book and the brillant Australian cast and crew. Instead of spending the money to basically remake this movie "American", just release the Australian film in the US.

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Some (by which I don't mean me) would argue the Americans already have their own version, otherwise known as Red Dawn, so I can't see them going that way.

According to the imdb, Paramount is the US distributor as well, but as far as I can tell it's only been released at a couple of film festivals.

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Hooray for torrents?

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I was looking for "Tomorrow..." on Netflix, but it's not even listed as coming soon. "Red Dawn", 2010 version, *is* listed as coming soon. For the record, the synopsis says the Chinese invade, not the North Koreans as someone else stated in this thread.

I like Australian and Kiwi movies and don't understand why more of them aren't released in the US.

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Then that synopsis is out of date, it is the North Koreans now.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-china-red-dawn-2011031 6,0,995726.story

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In the books its an alliance of three carefully unnamed countries.
Personally I always assumed it would have to be China, Indonesia and North Korea.
China has the manpower, Indonesia is the obvious staging point and North Korea, well, North Korea.

Of course the Indonesians just letting the Chinese move thousands of troops through their country is suspect, but both countries do have population pressures.

I suspect the movie went with North Korea because China is an economic ally and North Korea is everyone's enemy.

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They are remaking Red Dawn as we speak. So this movie is safe enough.

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They are remaking Red Dawn as we speak. So this movie is safe enough.


Actually the Red Dawn remake was already finished but MGM ran into financial difficulties and the release was put on hold. MGM ended up getting bailed out and the director was pressured to go back and change the villains in the movie from the Chinese to North Koreans so there has been some digital altering recently to the movie changing the plot from how it was originally filmed. It should be interesting to see what the final product looks like and compare it to the original Red Dawn as well as Tomorrow When The War Began.

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Political correctness in the Red Dawn sequel means there is no Red Dawn sequel.

perfectly, perfectly put, mate

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Similarities to Red Dawn or not,I,d still like to see this movie,it looks good,I hope it gets picked up in the US.

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Not just similarities, it is the exact same movie but different country.

A group of teenage friends band together when a foreign force invades their homeland. Using guerrilla warfare the friends fight back the invasion force. Movie? Thats red dawn, and there are a ton of other things within the movie like seeing people getting executed behind a chain link fence. I'm kinda pissed off at how similar this is to Red dawn unless it's just a remake and they give credit to it somewhere, but if not it would be like making a movie in new zealand about middle earth a quest to destroy a piece of jewelry and call it Lord of the Pendant or something.

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It doesn't sound like you have seen Tomorrow When The War Began - is that a wrong impression, or have you actually seen this movie?

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me? because i personally finished watching it ten minutes before my last comment was written

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It doesn't sound like you have seen Tomorrow When The War Began - is that a wrong impression, or have you actually seen this movie?


I know the question wasn't posed to me but I would like to answer as I have seen TWTWB. I think its a blatant rip off of Red Dawn. You cant hardly watch the movie without a scene that looks like it was copied from Red Dawn. Its not just a scene or two, its like watching an Australian remake with TWTWB ending about where the mid point of Red Dawn would be. Since TWTWB is supposed to be a multimovie project, maybe the other movies will shift the story in a completely different direction than Red Dawn but the first movie/story is very very similar.

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...maybe the other movies will shift the story in a completely different direction than Red Dawn but the first movie/story is very very similar.


About that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawGbdscMzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnJUHwJXV2E&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_literature

And if you’ve ever seen Battle of Algiers and the Guns of Navarone I guarantee you’ll experience deja-vu throughout a sizable chunk of Red Dawn’s third act. The arrival of the spetsnaz and the briefing is an obvious homage to a sequence from Algiers, the betrayal bit plays out in a very similar way to a scene from Navarone.

Point: Everything is similar to something else. It's not a valid criticism for anything.

You cant hardly watch the movie without a scene that looks like it was copied from Red Dawn.


I didn't think that any of the main characters in the books or the film were that similar to the main characters in Red Dawn.

I didn't think the movie looked or sounded anything like Red Dawn. Unless you thought Red Dawn looked and sounded like a music video. I don't remember any really similar dialog.

Because of the way they are written (read quotes below), the books are even less like Red Dawn. A teenage girl writing a diary is far removed from the way the concept is approached in RD. In the books John Marsden focuses a lot on Ellie's internal struggles (The movie didn't cover this). TWTWB is more character centric whereas RD was more about the conflict at the expense of the characters. Any character in RD who isn't played Powers Boothe or Harry Dean Stanton or Patrick Swayze is forgettable.

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...And then the horror of it hit me. Corrie was my age, my friend, my best, best friend who I shared my childhood with. This was Corrie, whose mother found her crying in her bathroom when she was four and when she asked her what was wrong Corrie sobbed, ‘Ellie told me to go to my room, and I haven’t even done anything wrong!’ Corrie, who played school with me, when we used poddy lambs as the students and tried to make the poor stupid things stand in straight lines for their lessons. Corrie, who had conspired with me to be naughty on day in grade 1, and we threw Eleanor’s lunch in the rubbish tin and filler her lunch box with sheep droppings. We got in so much trouble we were shocked. We hadn’t realised how naughty we were being. But only a week later we through or undies on the overhead fan when we were getting changed for swimming and one pair flew off into Mrs Mercer’s face.

We played dentists when we were seven and I actually pulled out one of Corries teeth. It was loose anyway, of course, and she didn’t mind, but Mrs Mackenzie was a bit flabbergasted. We put on puppet shows and magic shows for our families and charged them twenty cents to enter. We shared a bag of sherbet knocked off from her Mum’s shopping bag, then somehow convinced ourselves it was Ratsak and we panicked and rushed to the tap and tried to wash it all out of our mouths. We lay in our tent on our first campout, sucking tubes of toothpaste. Another time we pretended we were married, and we kissed and felt each other the way we imagined married people did. And on another campout we managed to persuade ourselves that there was a boogie-monster outside the tent, until we got so scared we rushed into the house screaming and refused to go out there again.

We were mates, that’s all there was to it. It was always Corrie’s hand I held as we walked in a crocodile to the library or the pool or the art room. Like Fi, we went through the usual list of things kids try. Jazz, ballet, swimming lessons, pony club. Unlike, Fi, we didn’t last too long at any of them. There was always too much to do at home, and our parents complained at all the driving. We went through the grades; 1,2,3,4. We wrote love letters to boys, and decided the next day we didn’t like them after all. We played softball for the Wirrawee under 10’s but when Corrie got dropped for being rude to Narelle, our coach, I quit the team in protest. We tried to peep at the shearers through a little hole in the wall of their dunny. We had a competition to see who could last the longest without going to the toilet and nearly bust ourselves in the process. We dared the other girls at grade 5 camp to run topless to the flagpole and back, and I actually did it, but Corrie, who by that time was getting something worth covering chickened out. Grade 6, Year 7, Year 8. We read in a magazine that sometimes girls who were close friends would menstruate at the same time, so we tried to synchronise ours but failed. For more than a term we kept a list of the colour of Andrew Matthewson’s undies each day, because he wore wide shorts and always sat slumped down with his legs apart. It was a joke, but there was something I never admitted even to Corrie, and that was how I used to with he’d forget to wear undies at all one day.

Corrie, who made herself sick worrying about tests. Corrie who spent a whole lesson typing groups of A’s – just the letter A – into a computer, then blocked it, copied and pasted it, and did that over and over again until she created a file eight megabytes long. Then we did a word count. It took 12 minutes.

Corrie, who broke her collarbone when she fell off the back of the trailer as we picked up the posts from the old fenceline. Corrie, who talked me into following her on a crawl through the little gaps between the bales in their hayshed, then suddenly panicked and thought she wouldn’t be able to get out and got total claustrophobia. Corrie, who fell so madly in love with Kevin, and so suddenly, that I was jealous and had to make myself like him. At first I’d even tried to talk her out of going with him but for once she wasn’t going to be talked out of something; she had her heart set on him, and she got him, and in the end I had to resign myself to the fact out relationship had changed forever.

We would have to bring Kevin here too, to the cemetery, because he had as much right as I did, maybe more after the sacrifices he’d made to get Corrie to hospital.

But no, I thought, I had a right to be here too. Corrie and I were mates. We were mates for life.

And now my best mate was under the earth, under six feel of cold heavy soil, separated from me by six feet and by eternity. How could it be possible? All those futures we discussed, all those plans to share a flat and go to uni, to travel the world together, to get jobs as pilots or jillaroos or teachers or doctors or governesses; in none of those plans did we ever consider for a moment that it might end like this. Death wasn’t on our agenda. We never mention the word. We thought we were indestructible. And what would happen to me now? Our plans had always been for two, but Corrie had left me and I was on my own. I felt like a Siamese twin who had been amputated from her other half, sure I had Fi, and sure I loved her dearly, but I hadn’t grown up with her the way I had with Corrie.

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One of the things I find strangest and hardest is that we were having such conversations. How could this have been happening to us? How could we be huddled in the dark bush, cold and hungry and terrified, talking about who we should kill? We had no preparation for this, no background, no knowledge. We didn't know if we were doing the right thing, ever. We didn't know anything. We were just ordinary teenagers, so ordinary we were boring. Overnight they'd pulled the roof of our lives. And after they'd pulled off the roof they'd come in and torn down the curtains, ripped up the furniture, burnt the house and thrown us into the night, where we'd been forced to run and hide and live like wild animals. We had no foundations, and we had no secure walls around our lives anymore. We were living in a strange long nightmare, where we had to make our own rules, invent new values, stumble around blindly, hoping we weren't making too many mistakes. We clung to what we knew and what we thought was right, but all the time those things too were being stripped from us. I didn't know if we'd be left with nothing, or if we'd be left with a new set of rules and attitudes and behaviours, so that we wouldn't recognise ourselves anymore. We could end up as new, distorted, deformed creatures, with only a few physical resemblances to the to the people we once were

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Lee’s eyes were wide open, like spotlights. He moved with the stealth of a feral cat – so quietly that I only heard the slightest crunch as he took each footstep. I somehow found time to be jealous of his grace and lightness of tread. But then I realised I was going to have to do more than watch.

In some ways what Lee had was the perfect weapon. The belt ran through two small rings of steel, and came back between them to get its tension. It was the kind of belt that we all wore: most of us had made our own in Leatherwork. It took Lee, though, to think of using one as a weapon. I had a horrible sick awareness that it was probably going to be perfect. But there was one big problem: Lee was going to try to strangle this guy with a belt while the guy stood there holding a gun. It was probably the bravest, stupidest thing I’d ever seen anyone try to do. I knew I had to help.

The soldier was losing his temper fast. ‘Turn round!’ he shouted at Kevin. ‘You bad boy! You turn round!’

Kevin looked terrified. He had seen Lee moving up behind the soldier and I don’t know who he was more scared of: Lee or the soldier. But at least the man was sure he was the one who’d caused Kevin’s loss of colour, and shaking lips. He hadn’t yet thought that there might be anyone behind him; hadn’t yet thought to turn around. I began moving forward with Lee. I knew what I had to do: get the man’s gun arm. I tried desperately to move as quietly as Lee. Kevin was turning round as ordered; slowly, but he was turning. ‘Hand up, hand up,’ the soldier yelled. Lee and I were only a couple of steps away now, and I thought that we should strike while the man was yelling; he would be less likely to hear us while his own voice was filling his ears. I had an awful moment of hesitation when I didn’t think I was going to be able to do it; I wanted to freeze but knew I simply couldn’t. The only way I could make myself act was to count: I went, ‘One, two, three,’ very quickly to myself, and dived.

Lee launched himself a split second later. Kevin fell sideways, desperate to avoid the aim of the gun. But the man didn’t shoot Kevin by reflex, which is what I’d most feared. He didn’t shoot anyone. He didn’t even pull the trigger. He did what I suppose most people would do in that situation: he started spinning round to see what was going on behind him. That was the way his reflexes worked. I rabbit-chopped his arm as hard as I could hit, then grabbed the gun and swung it upwards. I’d been hoping he’d drop the gun with the shock of my hit; he didn’t, but he lost his grip on it and had to snatch at it to try to get it back. At that moment, Lee knocked the man’s cap off and dropped the belt over his head. Now, fighting two battles at once, the man got confused; he tried to push me away and at the same time turned to attack Lee. Then Homer arrived with a rush and, between us, we prised the gun out of the man’s grasping fingers. He knew he was in trouble then. Lee was tightening the belt fast. The man tried to get his hands onto the belt but Homer and I grabbed an arm each and dragged them down again. Lee started to put all this weight on the belt. The soldier tried to call for help. Too late. I started to get hysterical myself but some force made me hold on. The soldier was pitching to the right, staggering. I lost my grip on his arm and he brought it up to his throat but it did him no good; Lee was implacable. The man’s face was mottled now, dark red with patches of white, getting darker by the moment. A horrible gurgling noise came from his mouth, like someone trying to gargle but doing it in his mouth instead of the throat. I didn’t, couldn’t watch any longer, and looked away, towards the beautiful bush, the bush I loved. Did these things happen in the bush? Did animals and birds kill each other in cold blood because of fights over territory? You bet your life they did.

I had hold of the soldier’s arm again, feeling the strength in it: its desperate struggle as it flailed and writhed and fought. The fight was lasting much longer than I’d expected. I could feel the veins swell in the tortured arm. Then, suddenly, it was all over. The arm went limp. A terrible smell filled the air and I realised the man had fouled his trousers. I stole a look at his face and quickly looked away again. It was the most revolting sight I’d ever seen. His tongue hung out like a giant fat bullboar sausage. His skin was purplish black. And his eyes … those eyes will follow me to my grave and beyond. They were the eyes of a staring devil; a man sent mad in the last minute of his life by the knowledge that he was dying, and by the manner of his death. Every time I close my eyes, his open in my mind.


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Ok, really? He described some scenes, said it was almost scene for scene and then you say "It doesn't sound like you have seen..."?

This movie is Red Dawn, almost scene for scene.
I really don't care either way, I liked Red Dawn and I sorta liked this one. The only thing that bothers me is seeing 100 Australians jump on everyone who said it copied Red Dawn, which it did... almost scene for scene. The only difference being is that they picked the standard faire steretyoicals, with the Asian being almost embarrasing.

If you're gonna reply to someone at least take the time to digest what they said.

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"This movie is Red Dawn, almost scene for scene. "

Really? I don't remember Marsden/Beattie showing the arrival of the soldiers in the opening pages/minutes, or Milius spending over half an hour before we even get to see the invasion force.

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Or do you even realize that this movie is based on a book? I'd love to see it realeased in the US, even if it's straight to DVD...

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"it would be like making a movie in new zealand about middle earth a quest to destroy a piece of jewelry and call it Lord of the Pendant"

Lord of the rings WAS made in New Zealand...

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Lord of the rings WAS made in New Zealand...

I'm pretty sure kinniththekrazy knows LOTR was made in New Zealand which is why he specifically mentioned New Zealand. The point he was making is the movie is basically the same except for a different name.

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"Not just similarities, it is the exact same movie but different country."

I just had impression from this, that they were making the point of red dawn and tomorrow when the war began as the same movie in different countries which would be the same as New Zealand making the same LOTR equivalent in their country.
Just had to stick up for the little country as its neighbour : p

I just had the feeling that Americans assume all great movies are made in America

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Its already been done in the porn industry. It's called Lord of the G-String. :-)

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It is the first of three movie adaptations to a series of books. And although the story line is so VERY much like Red Dawn. It isn't a remake and it is a very good movie. I am an American that has lived in Oz for 17 years now, and still has't acquired a taste for australian films but really wanted to see this one and was not at all disappointed. Worth a watch!! It is very good. Only trouble is they are taking to long to release the second one. The actors are all going to be to old by the time it comes out.

Another Australian film worth seeing is "Red Dog"

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Kinniththekrazy, you're spot on.

This is just a rip off of red dawn.

When America makes remakes of ideas created in other nations, they get slated and told their unoriginal.

But when foriegn films rip of usa ones, its fair game.

I am English by the way.

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Englandizer - Just wondering, have you seen both movies?

If you haven't, how can you honestly compare? Same basic premise doesn't mean same movie. Different ways of telling a story makes a different story. Watch it before you critise.

If you have seen both, can you honestly tell us that they were the same? And to think, there are 6 more possible instalments where, if they follow the books, goes into the impact that the war has on the central characters.

The way that you wrote the post, it looks like you haven't seen both movies. Just read the very basic premise of TWTWB and assumed that it was the same movie. But I could be wrong on that one though.

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I just watched both thank you (yeah for torrents and red box). Red dawn def. one of the last American Propaganda films ever made of that time (many years later ID4 came out). TWTWB: I suffered through an alright movie at best, Really did all the aussie film makers go to some crappy american film making school? TWTWB reminds me of what would happen if Dawson's creek met Platoon. There are so many emotions its like they asked the writer of the Twilight series to make it. So much dialog it was to the point of unbearable. They have finally released it and for once I seriously wish the aussies wouldn't have allowed it. I've seen much better films from Australia for many years and this was the lowest point so far.
But to each their own as they say, This is the generation of movie watchers who want a movie so in-depth with the main character you forgot there's a story line...That's a major no~no in movie making or as this movie has shown me, Spend to much time developing deep in-dept for all characters and you kill the movie.

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I live in America, and have seen both movies. Yes it is out in America. I loved this movie. It did have similarities to Red Dawn, however they are not the same.
I really hope they release the next ones in America too. If you have not seen this movie it was at redbox or you should be able to find it on VUDU.

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It's not worth your wait! Weak imitation of Red Dawn. Too much talk about fighting back is murder, and "is my life worth more than others". You were invaded, it's not murder it's self-defense!

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UPDATE:

Well, thanks to someone on YouTube, I finally got to see this movie, and American audiences are missing out.

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umm, the movie actually seemed pretty "americanized" to me, I don't see how an american version could eny differnt from this one, besides the location.

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OP, as you are hearing, we already did this movie in 1984- Red Dawn.

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Suggestion, if you haven't seen it and want to, by a copy on ebay.com.au
It's easier than waiting.

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This movie is based on a book, perhaps you should read all the posts before you comment.

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This movie is based on a book, perhaps you should read all the posts before you comment.


So the book reads likes a rip off of the Red Dawn story and that makes it ok for the movie? You do realize Red Dawn was released in 1984 while John Marsden's book Tomorrow When The War Began was first published in 1993? It looks like Marsden took the Red Dawn movie and adapted the story for his his books which the movie is based on.

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Even assuming that Marsden was influenced at all by Red Dawn, it's not like he went through it beat for beat. His approach to the characters, to the enemy, to the heroes' gradual realisation of what's happened and the difficult decision they make to become guerillas, it's all handled totally differently to Milius's movie.

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I just want to inform people that you can purchase the movie in blueray on Amazon.com they also offer the DVD but its cheaper to buy the blueray.

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You do realize Red Dawn was released in 1984 while John Marsden's book Tomorrow When The War Began was first published in 1993? It looks like Marsden took the Red Dawn movie and adapted the story for his his books which the movie is based on.


Might I repeat something I said in response to one of your ealier posts and which you ignored.

About that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawGbdscMzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnJUHwJXV2E&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_literature

And if you’ve ever seen Battle of Algiers and the Guns of Navarone I guarantee you’ll experience deja-vu throughout a sizable chunk of Red Dawn’s third act. The arrival of the spetsnaz and the briefing is an obvious homage to a sequence from Algiers, the betrayal bit plays out in a very similar way to a scene from Navarone.

Point: Everything is similar to something else. It's not a valid criticism for anything.

You cant hardly watch the movie without a scene that looks like it was copied from Red Dawn.


I didn't think that any of the main characters in the books or the film were that similar to the main characters in Red Dawn.

I didn't think the movie looked or sounded anything like Red Dawn. Unless you thought Red Dawn looked and sounded like a music video. I don't remember any really similar dialog.

Because of the way they are written (read quotes below), the books are even less like Red Dawn. A teenage girl writing a diary is far removed from the way the concept is approached in RD. In the books John Marsden focuses a lot on Ellie's internal struggles (The movie didn't cover this). TWTWB is more character centric whereas RD was more about the conflict at the expense of the characters. Any character in RD who isn't played Powers Boothe or Harry Dean Stanton or Patrick Swayze is forgettable.

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...And then the horror of it hit me. Corrie was my age, my friend, my best, best friend who I shared my childhood with. This was Corrie, whose mother found her crying in her bathroom when she was four and when she asked her what was wrong Corrie sobbed, ‘Ellie told me to go to my room, and I haven’t even done anything wrong!’ Corrie, who played school with me, when we used poddy lambs as the students and tried to make the poor stupid things stand in straight lines for their lessons. Corrie, who had conspired with me to be naughty on day in grade 1, and we threw Eleanor’s lunch in the rubbish tin and filler her lunch box with sheep droppings. We got in so much trouble we were shocked. We hadn’t realised how naughty we were being. But only a week later we through or undies on the overhead fan when we were getting changed for swimming and one pair flew off into Mrs Mercer’s face.

We played dentists when we were seven and I actually pulled out one of Corries teeth. It was loose anyway, of course, and she didn’t mind, but Mrs Mackenzie was a bit flabbergasted. We put on puppet shows and magic shows for our families and charged them twenty cents to enter. We shared a bag of sherbet knocked off from her Mum’s shopping bag, then somehow convinced ourselves it was Ratsak and we panicked and rushed to the tap and tried to wash it all out of our mouths. We lay in our tent on our first campout, sucking tubes of toothpaste. Another time we pretended we were married, and we kissed and felt each other the way we imagined married people did. And on another campout we managed to persuade ourselves that there was a boogie-monster outside the tent, until we got so scared we rushed into the house screaming and refused to go out there again.

We were mates, that’s all there was to it. It was always Corrie’s hand I held as we walked in a crocodile to the library or the pool or the art room. Like Fi, we went through the usual list of things kids try. Jazz, ballet, swimming lessons, pony club. Unlike, Fi, we didn’t last too long at any of them. There was always too much to do at home, and our parents complained at all the driving. We went through the grades; 1,2,3,4. We wrote love letters to boys, and decided the next day we didn’t like them after all. We played softball for the Wirrawee under 10’s but when Corrie got dropped for being rude to Narelle, our coach, I quit the team in protest. We tried to peep at the shearers through a little hole in the wall of their dunny. We had a competition to see who could last the longest without going to the toilet and nearly bust ourselves in the process. We dared the other girls at grade 5 camp to run topless to the flagpole and back, and I actually did it, but Corrie, who by that time was getting something worth covering chickened out. Grade 6, Year 7, Year 8. We read in a magazine that sometimes girls who were close friends would menstruate at the same time, so we tried to synchronise ours but failed. For more than a term we kept a list of the colour of Andrew Matthewson’s undies each day, because he wore wide shorts and always sat slumped down with his legs apart. It was a joke, but there was something I never admitted even to Corrie, and that was how I used to with he’d forget to wear undies at all one day.

Corrie, who made herself sick worrying about tests. Corrie who spent a whole lesson typing groups of A’s – just the letter A – into a computer, then blocked it, copied and pasted it, and did that over and over again until she created a file eight megabytes long. Then we did a word count. It took 12 minutes.

Corrie, who broke her collarbone when she fell off the back of the trailer as we picked up the posts from the old fenceline. Corrie, who talked me into following her on a crawl through the little gaps between the bales in their hayshed, then suddenly panicked and thought she wouldn’t be able to get out and got total claustrophobia. Corrie, who fell so madly in love with Kevin, and so suddenly, that I was jealous and had to make myself like him. At first I’d even tried to talk her out of going with him but for once she wasn’t going to be talked out of something; she had her heart set on him, and she got him, and in the end I had to resign myself to the fact out relationship had changed forever.

We would have to bring Kevin here too, to the cemetery, because he had as much right as I did, maybe more after the sacrifices he’d made to get Corrie to hospital.

But no, I thought, I had a right to be here too. Corrie and I were mates. We were mates for life.

And now my best mate was under the earth, under six feel of cold heavy soil, separated from me by six feet and by eternity. How could it be possible? All those futures we discussed, all those plans to share a flat and go to uni, to travel the world together, to get jobs as pilots or jillaroos or teachers or doctors or governesses; in none of those plans did we ever consider for a moment that it might end like this. Death wasn’t on our agenda. We never mention the word. We thought we were indestructible. And what would happen to me now? Our plans had always been for two, but Corrie had left me and I was on my own. I felt like a Siamese twin who had been amputated from her other half, sure I had Fi, and sure I loved her dearly, but I hadn’t grown up with her the way I had with Corrie.

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One of the things I find strangest and hardest is that we were having such conversations. How could this have been happening to us? How could we be huddled in the dark bush, cold and hungry and terrified, talking about who we should kill? We had no preparation for this, no background, no knowledge. We didn't know if we were doing the right thing, ever. We didn't know anything. We were just ordinary teenagers, so ordinary we were boring. Overnight they'd pulled the roof of our lives. And after they'd pulled off the roof they'd come in and torn down the curtains, ripped up the furniture, burnt the house and thrown us into the night, where we'd been forced to run and hide and live like wild animals. We had no foundations, and we had no secure walls around our lives anymore. We were living in a strange long nightmare, where we had to make our own rules, invent new values, stumble around blindly, hoping we weren't making too many mistakes. We clung to what we knew and what we thought was right, but all the time those things too were being stripped from us. I didn't know if we'd be left with nothing, or if we'd be left with a new set of rules and attitudes and behaviours, so that we wouldn't recognise ourselves anymore. We could end up as new, distorted, deformed creatures, with only a few physical resemblances to the to the people we once were

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Lee’s eyes were wide open, like spotlights. He moved with the stealth of a feral cat – so quietly that I only heard the slightest crunch as he took each footstep. I somehow found time to be jealous of his grace and lightness of tread. But then I realised I was going to have to do more than watch.

In some ways what Lee had was the perfect weapon. The belt ran through two small rings of steel, and came back between them to get its tension. It was the kind of belt that we all wore: most of us had made our own in Leatherwork. It took Lee, though, to think of using one as a weapon. I had a horrible sick awareness that it was probably going to be perfect. But there was one big problem: Lee was going to try to strangle this guy with a belt while the guy stood there holding a gun. It was probably the bravest, stupidest thing I’d ever seen anyone try to do. I knew I had to help.

The soldier was losing his temper fast. ‘Turn round!’ he shouted at Kevin. ‘You bad boy! You turn round!’

Kevin looked terrified. He had seen Lee moving up behind the soldier and I don’t know who he was more scared of: Lee or the soldier. But at least the man was sure he was the one who’d caused Kevin’s loss of colour, and shaking lips. He hadn’t yet thought that there might be anyone behind him; hadn’t yet thought to turn around. I began moving forward with Lee. I knew what I had to do: get the man’s gun arm. I tried desperately to move as quietly as Lee. Kevin was turning round as ordered; slowly, but he was turning. ‘Hand up, hand up,’ the soldier yelled. Lee and I were only a couple of steps away now, and I thought that we should strike while the man was yelling; he would be less likely to hear us while his own voice was filling his ears. I had an awful moment of hesitation when I didn’t think I was going to be able to do it; I wanted to freeze but knew I simply couldn’t. The only way I could make myself act was to count: I went, ‘One, two, three,’ very quickly to myself, and dived.

Lee launched himself a split second later. Kevin fell sideways, desperate to avoid the aim of the gun. But the man didn’t shoot Kevin by reflex, which is what I’d most feared. He didn’t shoot anyone. He didn’t even pull the trigger. He did what I suppose most people would do in that situation: he started spinning round to see what was going on behind him. That was the way his reflexes worked. I rabbit-chopped his arm as hard as I could hit, then grabbed the gun and swung it upwards. I’d been hoping he’d drop the gun with the shock of my hit; he didn’t, but he lost his grip on it and had to snatch at it to try to get it back. At that moment, Lee knocked the man’s cap off and dropped the belt over his head. Now, fighting two battles at once, the man got confused; he tried to push me away and at the same time turned to attack Lee. Then Homer arrived with a rush and, between us, we prised the gun out of the man’s grasping fingers. He knew he was in trouble then. Lee was tightening the belt fast. The man tried to get his hands onto the belt but Homer and I grabbed an arm each and dragged them down again. Lee started to put all this weight on the belt. The soldier tried to call for help. Too late. I started to get hysterical myself but some force made me hold on. The soldier was pitching to the right, staggering. I lost my grip on his arm and he brought it up to his throat but it did him no good; Lee was implacable. The man’s face was mottled now, dark red with patches of white, getting darker by the moment. A horrible gurgling noise came from his mouth, like someone trying to gargle but doing it in his mouth instead of the throat. I didn’t, couldn’t watch any longer, and looked away, towards the beautiful bush, the bush I loved. Did these things happen in the bush? Did animals and birds kill each other in cold blood because of fights over territory? You bet your life they did.

I had hold of the soldier’s arm again, feeling the strength in it: its desperate struggle as it flailed and writhed and fought. The fight was lasting much longer than I’d expected. I could feel the veins swell in the tortured arm. Then, suddenly, it was all over. The arm went limp. A terrible smell filled the air and I realised the man had fouled his trousers. I stole a look at his face and quickly looked away again. It was the most revolting sight I’d ever seen. His tongue hung out like a giant fat bullboar sausage. His skin was purplish black. And his eyes … those eyes will follow me to my grave and beyond. They were the eyes of a staring devil; a man sent mad in the last minute of his life by the knowledge that he was dying, and by the manner of his death. Every time I close my eyes, his open in my mind.

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There won't be a US version of this film, or a major release. Here's why The Americans remade RED DAWN a while ago (The remake has Chris Hemsworth in it) it then got stuck in post production as they are digitally changing the invading army from chinese to Korean. In the mean time THOR came out and Hemsworth is now a bigish star.

I have seen TMWTWB and I wasn't really a fan of it. As many posters have already said the plots are pretty close to each other so a studio may try to block the release so RED DAWN has a better chance, I'm guessing it'll get released after The Hunger Games.

I didn't like TMWTB because the acting wasn't great and I found the lead character hypocritical and unlikeable. I am not however hating on the film because of RED DAWN just saying why it may not get a US release.

"I ain't afraid to try, I fail as good as anybody else."

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Why? americans dont understand australian language?

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It's not unprecedented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max#Release

The Angels Have the Phone Box

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Do you know if they do the same thing with Mad Max 2 or did American audiences walk out of that movie wondering why everyone was speaking with different voices?

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