First few scenes - physics ??


So in the first few minutes we have:
- Enterprise shown underwater but venting gas bubbles ??!?!
- Scotty saying that the Enterprise might be affected by salt water or may not be able to stand the heat of a volcano
- Sulu saying that the transporter might work better with a line of sight
- a new angle on the prime directiven - that they are now about interfering to save indigenous populations that would otherwise be wiped out

Any others ?

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- Enterprise shown underwater but venting gas bubbles ??!?!


In Star Trek The Undiscovered Country Spock says that under impulse power, they burn fuel (plasma).

- Scotty saying that the Enterprise might be affected by salt water or may not be able to stand the heat of a volcano


And?

- Sulu saying that the transporter might work better with a line of sight


And?

- a new angle on the prime directiven - that they are now about interfering to save indigenous populations that would otherwise be wiped out


No, that was Kirk violating the Prime Directive, as he often did in the TV show. Had they not had to rescue Spock, he could have saved the people without them knowing it was done by "aliens." Even then, had Spock not actually reported what had happened, no one besides the crew of the Enterprise would have known either.

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Except that detonating the device in the volcano WAS a direct violation of that directive. The first few scenes proved what a turkey this was going to be. There was so many logic gaps it was unforgivable.

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"In Star Trek The Undiscovered Country Spock says that under impulse power, they burn fuel (plasma)."

The point being made is that the a starship needs to be completely enclosed in space. How can it have open vents?

"- Scotty saying that the Enterprise might be affected by salt water or may not be able to stand the heat of a volcano

And?"

Wow! In my best Darth Vader voice, "The Ignorance is strong with this one."

"And?

- Sulu saying that the transporter might work better with a line of sight"

If in Trek II, they beamed directly inside a planet, why would line of sight improve the outcome?

"No, that was Kirk violating the Prime Directive, as he often did in the TV show. Had they not had to rescue Spock, he could have saved the people without them knowing it was done by "aliens." Even then, had Spock not actually reported what had happened, no one besides the crew of the Enterprise would have known either."

So basically, don't report any wrongdoings to Starfleet, so Federation captains can do whatever they see fit to skirt the rules and laws. Corrupt much?

What's so stupid is that doing what they were doing was a violation of the prime directive regardless of how noble the reason was. Because of this, Spock undertaking the mission was violating the prime directive. How he didn't know that only shows either that he's an idiot, or the "writers" were idiots it not know that. This is just the tip of the iceberg in the stupidity of this movie.

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Scotty doesn't say the Enterprise IS affected by salt water or volcanic heat. He says that she MIGHT. And there's nothing incorrect regarding his logic. There were many instances in Prime cannon where the crew express concern over intense heat damaging the ship, and there's nothing in the new movies that says what the Enterprise is made from and how the material is different. And it's entirely possible that prolonged exposure to a saline solution might damage her hull as well. She's a space ship. She was made to sail in a vacuum, not an ocean.

Again, Sulu doesn't say that the transporter WILL work better with a line of sight, just that it MIGHT. And given that they were having difficulty picking up Spock's signal at the time, Sulu's line of thinking isn't faulty here. The crew was having trouble finding Spock using the ship's instruments, so Sulu suggests moving closer to see if they could pick up a visual. That actually seems logical to me.

The issue with the Prime Directive has nothing to do with science, let alone physics. But as was mentioned by a previous poster, Prime Kirk did it all the time, so this isn't really a mistake. Assuming that his personality and character are basically the same in the new time line, this would be completely in line with who Kirk is (and you'll notice that he gets chewed out for it later).

There are many, many issues that I have with this movie. But those aren't among them.

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