Anyone else notice the slight similarities to Takashi Miike's Visitor Q? Albeit, a lot more tame? I have yet to see this movie, but I really notice them from the trailer.
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Yeah, I felt like they parallel in the 'stranger comes to mend a broken home by unconventional means' way.
Hesher, in a broad way, is a americanized tame version of Visitor Q. IMO
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are you on drugs.?.....how could you possibly compare Visitor Q to anything?
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No he's not on drugs. He's right. You on the other hand are so mesmerized and blinded by Takashi's over the top style to see it.
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You on the other hand are so mesmerized and blinded by Takashi's over the top style to see it.
Yes you are allowed your own opinion but that also entails whenever you state it people automatically have the exact same right to state an opinion about your opinion. Guess you conveniently let that part out of your first class explanation, Mr. Black Kettle, all full of himself, cough hypocrite, sir.
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ps....not a sir, but thanks for being so polite ;)
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That's really more of an assumption than an opinion.
shareVisitor Q itself is a version of Teorema by Pasolini.
shareSeen Hesher last night and it has broad similarities,as someone else mentioned above,but is not as extreme as Visitor Q.
shareHow is family healing accomplished by a stranger a common theme between Visitor Q and Hesher? One family recovers with two remaining members after deaths and the departure of a stranger, the other one "heals" itself by completely dissolving into self destructive madness? Visitor Q is not healing, it's sinking into the deepest depths of deprivation a troubled family can go. Hesher is a perverted, twisted tale of growing up and accepting loss. No comparison, besides a dark haired stranger altering a family.
sharegranted, there are similar elements. Troubled family, stranger arrives. Seems to be ambivalent to family problems at first, eventually helps them to realize the depth of their own personality. the difference is, the "visitor" in Visitor Q imparts nothing worthwhile to the family, doesn't really grow to care about them. Visitor Q destroys a family, Hesher helps a family recover. Maybe that's a happy american ending for you, instead of the dubious debauchery of Visitor Q. I think they're completely different movies thematically. One masochistic son, two whores and a sex crazed father vs... one son, a depressed dad and a grandmother... only one sexually attracted to someone outside the family (Natalie Portman). Plus a stranger that is attracted to Portman, and the other (the visitor) who "helps" the mother in visitor Q.
Tell me I'm wrong if you like. You're welcome to your own interpretation, but comparing these movies is like saying "The Tree of Life" is "2001: A Space Odyssey," because they're both *beep* and require multiple viewings to put it together.
BTW love both movies, but comparing them is milk churned butter to liquid vegetable oil at best.
Actually in Visitor Q the stranger doesn't destroy the family. He brings them together. In a depraved way but he does make them realise that the family unit is important.
Like I said though in another thread before I actually saw this one, Visitor Q is also a stab at Reality TV viewers. It mirrors the depravity of those people.
Still, theme-wise Hesher is VERY similar to Visitor Q. But more tame.
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Yeah it's funny you mention that because when I was watching the film I mentioned to my girlfriend that it reminded me of visitor Q. It seems like a really mainstream Western version of that story. I actually found it a lot more accessible than Visitor Q, although clearly less controversial and in your face. Hesher's basic morality - observe the dog-eat-dog world around you and interfere with the universe only when you feel you must - was much like the young intruder in Visitor Q.
The big difference, of course, is that in Visitor Q the wild card enters their world because they are stuck in the same state, and in Hesher, the wild card enters to put an end to the family's derailment. It's kind of the opposite premise and simultaneously the most similar premise.
Also, Visitor Q seemed to go out of its way in order to prevent the audience from drawing a coherent conclusion from the story. Hesher is extremely overt in providing a parallel between the character's stories/dialogue and the character's lives. Hesher is much easier to stomach for a Western audience, but I definitely agree - it wasn't long into the film that Visitor Q popped into my mind.
Yeah, it reminded me of Visitor Q also. What's more interesting to me is how many people who watched this movie have seen Visitor Q. That makes me happy. I can't say I love or hate either movie--they are more like forces of nature that I just accept the way they are, but I'm glad they were both made. I'll have to watch them back-to-back some time and see what comes out of it.
I think as time goes by I'll find myself becoming disenchanted with Hesher and enjoying Visitor Q more because I feel like if you're going to go all-out with this type of story telling, then go all out. Hesher just didn't embrace the absurdity of life in the way that Visitor Q did, and that was a fundamental component that allowed me to enjoy and appreciate Visitor Q. Also the dark humor in Visitor Q helps guide the audience in a way, not to mention relieving a little of the tension from the strangeness and perversity of the events of the movie.
Thanks for the interesting thread everyone.
Yeah, Hesher did seem like a more realistic version of Visitor Q. Not sure which one I liked more. Visitor Q, while there was obviously a point to the madness, just felt too crazy. Hesher was the easier to grasp version.
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