civilization would have been decimated and there would have been no Alexander the great, no Roman empire (because all the scientists and elites would have been killed or exiled to Persia), no British empire and thus no 'MURICA
shareWhy "white" people? Western Civilization belongs to the human race. You are right that there would have been no Western Civilization, which is to say that idea of self-government, value of the individual, the primacy of science and reason - all of those would have had to be discovered/developed somewhere else. What's interesting is that no other civilization managed that without borrowing from the Greeks. It's true that the Roman Republic came into being at roughly the same time as Athenian democracy, however the Rome borrowed most of what Athens developed. Besides, with Greece a Persian suzerain, Rome's tiny republic would have probably followed in short order.
In another thread here I said the human race would probably be at least 1,000 years behind where we are now in science and technology. Perhaps more.
Yep science and reason were solely the domain of Greece. Yep. Entirely. Thank the stars Greece discovered the human capacity for rational thought.
shareAre you aware, sir, that Persians are considered white?
shareStop with the what if, its in the past, And what if their was no fighting in Eastern Front in World War II, and hitler sent his army of 10 million men to england and then to the usa, would all of asia be speaking Russian and all of the U.S. be speaking german.
shareWhich makes you wonder why there's so much controversy surrounding persians and arabs moving to Europe
shareSome Persians are "white" but many are brown and black.
The Greeks tended to paint the Persians as brown.
Do people realize that if the butterfly had only flapped it's wings a fraction of a second faster then we would all have lizard tongues?
shareno Alexander the great, no Roman empire, no British empire
STFU, every nation, kingdom, empire, and culture of people have a history of violence
shareYou would be sitting naked in a hut in Africa if not for them.
shareI haven't seen this movie yet; What kind of Salamis are we talking about? Genoa? Chorizo?
shareMettwurst all the way.
http://imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=31372081
It might have developed faster and bigger. We might be... SUPA 'MURICA.
sharewhite people are so stupid
share:D
Greeks copied a lot of their scientific knowledge from the Middle East, most of the stuff was already invented bu the Assyrians and Sumerians before the Persian dynasty then in power, so the progress of "Western Europe" might have been fairly similar, or as you say, maybe faster? The Greeks were great at self-promoting, so we* still think they made and invented everything.
*white stoopid peeple
Not exactly. The Persians were known for their tolerance. They ruled Ionia and the other Greek states of Asia Minor for almost two centuries, yet the Greek culture of those states remained largely intact, as long as they acknowledged the Persian Empire and paid tribute.
History would have turned out slightly different, but maybe not drastically so. After all, Alexander came from Macedon, a state that fell under Persian rule for several decades, for much of the Greco-Persian Wars. If Macedon continued to remain under Persian rule, there's no reason to believe an Alexander wouldn't have arisen to eventually take over the Persian Empire. Even Persia itself was originally a province of the Median Empire, before Cyrus the Great rose up and conquered it, establishing the Persian Empire as we know it.
"WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM???!!!!!"
Not exactly. The Persians were known for their tolerance. They ruled Ionia and the other Greek states of Asia Minor for almost two centuries, yet the Greek culture of those states remained largely intact, as long as they acknowledged the Persian Empire and paid tribute.
History would have turned out slightly different, but maybe not drastically so. After all, Alexander came from Macedon, a state that fell under Persian rule for several decades, for much of the Greco-Persian Wars. If Macedon continued to remain under Persian rule, there's no reason to believe an Alexander wouldn't have arisen to eventually take over the Persian Empire. Even Persia itself was originally a province of the Median Empire, before Cyrus the Great rose up and conquered it, establishing the Persian Empire as we know it.