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Do female revenge films like these degrade or empower women?


There is a lot of debate over these kinds of films and one topic is whether or not these films centered on revenge can be called empowering or feminist or if they encourage too much inappropriate responses to violence against women to be truly empowering.

Some people believe that a film that truly empowers women would have them deal with injustice, oppression and mistreatment simply by healing, moving on and living a fulfilling life. And that these films don't do anything at all for women because they still make it more about the *beep* who wronged them than about the victims.

Others point out that there is a fine line between vengeance and justice and what one calls vengeance another calls justice. And that deep down, even if we consider ourselves pacifists, nonviolent, feminists, social justice types, we all have a desire to extract this kind of vengeance on those who hurt us and it is purely natural to use these movies as a catharsis of sorts.

This debate has been going on for years, ever since the first I Spit on Your Grave came out in 1978. And it has resulted in interesting, to say the least, debates that sometimes end up as flame wars. The original I Spit On Your Grave has been called both a feminist horror film of sorts and an anti feminist horror film of sorts too. I imagine that the same could be said for the 2010 remake.

Which side of the debate do you take?

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I am a female and it doesn't degrade or empower me. I know that things like this happen often be it a gang rape or date rape. if anything it makes me reflect on what I would do if I was in her shoes. One of the main reasons why I am a firm believer in carrying guns for your protection, if she had a gun by her side (and killed the leader who also had a gun first) this whole incident could have been avoided. And by law (even though the sheriff was crooked)she would hopefully get off, because they were trespassing and threatening her. But to be honest it did make me a little happy to see them get tortured, wouldn't call it empowerment though.

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I haven't seen the original film.
But I think this movie is too poor to be neither. It's just shocking secuences with a not well worked script. The plot is clear, but that's not enough. It seems like the director wanted to satisfy all his sick male viewers with all the abuse, voyeur nudes, rape and humiliation of the female character, but then call it even for female viewers with this "super heroine" avenger.
I will never call this a "feminist" movie.

IMHO, a film like "The Brave One", with Jodie Foster, is a much, much better film, it explores similar issues but in a more "realistic" way, it is well written, directed and acted.

And for fun, I prefer Tarantino's "Death Proof".

Please excuse my terrible redaction, english is not my native language.

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They deserved everything she did to them! Abuse, violence, and disrespect towards women is one evil and I have no tolerance for!!!

"A real man would rather bow down to a strong woman than dominate a weak one"

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What about Rabbis? I thought it was they who are usually employed to circumcise male infants. Medical establishment? If you're suggesting that the clinical professional is involved then I completely agree with you. I despise the act of mutilation of ANY child or person without their consent.

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Neither. It's fictional entertainment. The idea that a film could degrade or empower women (or any group of people for that matter) seems pretty sketchy to me.

What are words for when no one listens anymore

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As my son would say, who cares, it's just a stupid movie dad.

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