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To the People Complaining About the 'in 1945 China Won the War' Line.

posted 11 years ago by jd63213
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Some perspective. Sure, it is a bit dishonest for the movie to say "China won the war" instead of "China and her allies won the war," but it only reeks of propaganda to Americans who are used to hearing that they won the war on their own, which is just as ridiculous.

Russia basically won the European front on their own. They are the ones who broke Hitler's back with massive casualties (losing three men for every German). The US just came in at the end and mopped up what was left. We got involved in the war in 1941, but we didn't really start fighting in Europe until 1944 (D-Day). The war was basically over by 1943-44.

Same with the Pacific. Russia beat the Japanese in China, and the US fought the naval battles and dropped the bombs.

So, yes the line is dishonest, but so is the view Americans have that we won the war on our own.

And another thing, I hate it when people don't separate their signatures from their posts.

[–] trapdoorstudios 11 years ago

Having waded into a few of these types of 'debates' over the years I think you've hit it bang on the head.

I don't disagree that without the US involvement the war wouldn't have been won when it was or how it was, however it is frustrating that the American view doesn't include any of the allied countries who had been fighting the war for years before they even got involved.

Is this down to what is taught in schools? When I studied the Second world war at school we specifically studied it from a number of different perspectives including British, German, Chinese and American.

This film is Chinese and as such it can take liberties with the facts a little if it likes, also bear in mind that this may not be an exact translation of what the Chinese actually says in the native language. It could be lost in translation, as it were.

But some of the attitudes and comments on her are extremely disrespectful of the Chinese people who fought hard against the Japanese and who endured horrific conditions.

[–] be236 7 years ago

I totally agree with OP's comments. Well said!

[–] TimMC (9143) 4 years ago

The Russian quagmire did hurt Germany. Yes.

Oh yeah, Americans won the war without any ASSistance from anyone.
Just kidding.

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