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lol what character is 'brave'?!?

posted 11 years ago by nizzy79
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i saw wreck it ralph in the theather and was so pleased with it. then the oscar's came out and gave it to brave so i had no choice but to see it.

i watch it last night for the first time and was stunned by what i had just saw. it started off good, but just really didn't do it for me...

anyway the whole time i'm thinking, who's brave? is it the daughter? is it the mother? if the daughter, how is she brave? she was the one who cursed the mom. was it the mom for fighting the evil bear?

i asked this question to a few friends of mine and they said the triplets were brave... to that i said EL OH EL! those boys were pure comic relief. in no way shape or form do they deserve the title of the movie.

"a wise man see's failure as progress"

[–] Geeksgonewild31 11 years ago

Some key scenes between Mor'du and Merida were edited out after Brenda left, thus rendering the title fairly pointless. Merida had a moment of true courage in the original unedited film that was very well done. A line of dialogue about bravery from her father was also cut even though that line was a needed element for the Brave title itself. As to why they would change the title to something vague and then remove the scene and spoken line that makes said title *much* less vague was beyond me. Very foolish edits IMO.

[–] RbSnedlap 11 years ago

As for the title, it appears to be in line with other recent Disney films like `Tangled` or the upcoming `Frozen`.
So it looks like somebody currently `high up` in the decision-making process thinks one-word titles are a good idea!

I must admit I`ve been finding some of you`re posts interesting.
From its release I`ve had a huge suspicion that there is a huge chunk of the plot missing from the final release, only confirmed by what I saw in the `Legend of Mor`Du` short.
The thing is, I`m fairly well-versed in the culture and historical base of Scotland and the British/Celtic background they were drawing on for this so I KNOW how the old legends work.

I just keep seeing in this odd hints in whats left in the plot that the writers knew very well what a lot of the folklore imagery meant when they were using it and there is a much deeper and somewhat darker story than most people realise going on in the background.

"Any plan that involves losing your hat is a BAD plan.""

[–] selkn-asrai 11 years ago

It doesn't hurt that "brave" is a pretty fun word to say in a Scottish accent. :P

"Now, bring me that horizon."

[–] carolina_1992 9 years ago

I know this is more than 2 years ago but I would LOVE to hear you elaborate on that. Deeper and darker story? I would like to know more, if you can. As a person who doesn't know how those legends work (farest I ever came were German fairytales...)I would love to learn more :)

[–] jedite1000 10 years ago

I don't like either titles. I would of called it mother bear :p

[–] SelenaQP 10 years ago

I was thinking how the storyline doesn't really add up to its title. "The Bear and The Bow" would have been better and more fitting.

Don't be calling me no bitch! If I'm a bitch, then your mama is a bitch, BITCH!

[–] tim_rulez 10 years ago

Nizzy79, The title is actually mentioned in the film at a point.

At the end of the film some kind of motto shows up which seems to be linked to the title.. Between the last real scene and the credits:

Protagonist Princess Merida rides a horse and you hear her think: "There are those who think fate is something beyond their command ,that destiny is not our own. But I know better...
Our Fate lives within us, you only have to be brave enough to see it."

As far as that goes for a moral... I think it might be added to add to the title, but as a plus also because "Brave" might appeal more to boys next to "The bear and the bow"

Just adding to your comment.. :)

[–] drxcreatures 10 years ago

My guy had me watch this. I think because I am lively and we expected her to go...save...'something'. Afterwards, he was rather apologetic and we both decided that it wasn't as much as we had hoped for.

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[–] RbSnedlap 9 years ago

Its sort of `in the rules` for the Witch/Wizard or whoever that gives the protagonist the magic to also give an oblique warning of the `be careful what you wish for` variety.
There seems to be a law about magic though that prevents a magic user warning directly that something bad might happen beyond the intent of the spell.

There is something else though that might be considered, the Witch probably isn`t exactly human but someone from the magical `otherworld`.
She was the same one who gave `The Lost Prince` the identical spell a long time before and, as `The Legend of Mor`Du` short shows she appeared as an old woman then {though not to start with).

So she`s certainly been around longer than Fergus`s kingdom and there a couple of hints, if you know what to look for that she might actually be somebody from Celtic mythology!

"Any plan that involves losing your hat is a BAD plan.""

[–] danaelambros 8 years ago

At first, one would think the girl is brave for standing up to her mother and refusing to marry, to be her own person, in a tradition-bound world. However, as the story develops and her willfulness turns her mother into a bear, I think it is the mother who is brave, who starts to see her daughter and their relationship in a different light. I guess in the end, "brave" has several meanings...to stand up for what you believe in, to also be brave enough to truly listen to someone else and see them in their true light (the mother really discovering who her daughter is), as well as Merida realizing that being rebellious or wanting her freedom isn't necessarily brave, but selfish. I loved the movie as I thought it really was a return to legends, myths, the importance and ties of family and tradition. Ultimately - for me - this movie was about a relationship between a mother and her daughter who rediscover and become closer during a difficult ordeal, so we could in the end say they're both brave.

[–] bdmi-6 7 years ago

Merida is brave - she is challenging the system which decrees that she should be forced to marry someone she barely knows and isn't interested in. She is brave in asserting that she is a first-born child and therefore entitled to compete for the hand of the princess.

I very much enjoyed this movie.