Anyone else notice the fact that her grandmother was white, her mother was white, her babies were white, and her cartoon thing in the beginning was white? I feel as though they were just telling us to ignore the fact that J Lo is not, in fact, white and just pretend she is.
I've said my piece...have at it.
Why should it matter? Racism will exist as long as people only focus on each other's skin color.
shareJust what I was going to say - basically. I didn't pick up on this fact through the film, mainly because it is not exactly what I was focusing on. I mean it doesn't matter what her skin colour is - it doesn't affect the movie at all! x
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She is not white indeed. She is blue of shame for her awful films...
shareMany hispanics are white (we descend from Roman, Arab and Celtic peoples, who, are from the Caucasian race even tough each of them has olive, tanned and pink skin coloration)
Being white doesn't means being fair skinned.
But JLo is clearly NOT white (racially speaking), her nose, her skin tone, her cheekbones are not 100% European, she is mestizo.
shareNot many europeans are 100% european. Just because you have a darker skinned spanish guy, or a sicilian, he is still white. In fact, the term caucasian even covers the beduin people of north africa.
Perhaps we should just call ourselves caucasian, not whites. Caucasian covers arabs, north africans (not the black ones obviously), europeans, hispanics, etc etc.
Try to spin it like you want but she's not white, everytime there's a successful Latin celebrity white people always wanna claim that they're white THEY'RE NOT!!!!
shareOk, then what is she if she isn't WHITE? Last time I checked, LATINO is NOT a race and you CAN BE WHITE, BLACK, RED, and even ASIAN and be LATINO/HISPANIC
Jennifer Lopez can pass for a lot of different cultures. She's not even dark she's tanned - and in the movie her skin tone was light she looked as light as the leading actor and the girl who played Mona
As far as the ignorant grandma comment. My grandma is actually VERY pale and my mom is fair-skinned (with a tint of olive - she can tan very well if she wanted to) my sister is VERY pale too but I turned out with a light olive tone and if I go in the sun I get really dark... so am I not white? Of course I am.. just because my skin gets dark in the sun and it takes a long time to fade doesn't change the fact that my RACE is white. And by the way, my family is all European -- all born in Colombia but our heritage is French, Italian, and Spanish as in Spain in case you didn't know what I meant.
what is wrong with Jennifer's nose?
God, the Ignorant some people in America have regarding ethnicity and race is so dumbfounding and ridiculous.
You gotta be blind to say that JLo is white she's mixed with Black like most PRs and she's also mixed with Taino, she's not white!! Congrats on being white cuz you talk about it like it's some big achievement!!!
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Her family is predominately European - also, I'm not saying like it's some big achievement I'm merely pointing out that you can be tan olive however you wanna say it and still have family members who are fair skinned/pale. Second, you don't have to be MIXED to have tan or olive complexion; many people produce a lot of melanin while out in the sun - the production of melanin is what gives you your skin color. The more you produce the darker you'll be and the less you produce the lighter; hence why very pale people burn and not tan. You can be very light when born but as you grow up and being in the sun can make you dramatically darker... It still doesn't change the race of that person and it certainly doesn't mean you have to automatically think they are "mixed"
You really need to sotp feeding into those stupid Hollywood stereotypes of what "ethnic" people should look like.. whatever the hell "Ethnic" actually means. Because if you research you'll come to find that "Latinos" come in all colors, shapes, sizes, etc... they aren't just dark skinned, brown eyes, with brown hair.
I am actually of olive complexion with brown hair and eyes and I get that stereotyped all the time I've even been asked if I'm adopted (or mixed) even though I look like my mom and my grandma and my sister looks like me and they're all fair skinned.
It's all the ignorance of people and their STUPID obsession with race. Just because she played a "white" woman doesn't mean anything SHE'S AN ACTRESS and whether she sucks or not that is STILL her profession. She can play whatever role she wants and she shouldn't be judged or limited because ignorant people such as yourself FEEL that she shouldn't be playing "white" roles -- again, whatever "white roles" mean.
It's so sad and dumbfounding to know that ALL the efforts people put forth in the 60's for the Civil Rights didn't really achieve everything they wanted. Equality? yeah, sure we don't have "Colored Bathrooms" anymore but now we have labels...identification... WHY? Are we headed to another f-ing Holocaust?
Do all "Latinos" now have to live in the ghetto, wear so much gel your hair looks greasy, not make enough to get by, get janitor/cleaning lady jobs, be on Welfare, be involved in a gang? I don't understand why we hispanics have to be put in boxes of what we HAVE to be.
Just like the Black people who are intellectuals; they're all of a sudden NOT BLACK but they are Wannabe Whites. And in movies they ALWAYS have to play these martyr parts and if they don't then people complain that they're not being "black enough"
In American society, if you don't live up to every respective Stereotype: Redneck, Hispanic, Black, Asian, etc then you are considered to be ASHAMED to be who you are.
Look at Jessica Alba and Andy Garcia - they said they didn't want to be labeled "Latino" actors because that's it they are ACTORS and you don't see anyone saying "Caucasian Actor Brad Pitt" or "White/Jewish actor Dustin Hoffman" when they write about them or talk about them... but whenever it comes to ANYONE who is of Hispanic descent they automatically add that in front of their name.. WHY? Because their ancestry is from another country doesn't mean it should define their career as an actor/actress and because they say they don't want labels doesn't mean they are ASHAMED to be who they are.
If Andy Garcia, Jessica Alba, Jennfier Lopez, eva Mendez, Rosario Dawson, etc don't play hispanic roles anymore is because of STEREOTYPES - newsflash, I work in the industry and KNOW FOR A FACT there aren't any good scripts that involve "hispanics" unless you are (as I stated before) a drug dealer, maid looking to be rescued, gang member, etc. They're all parts that they DON'T want to play because that isn't what defines a Hispanic and they don't want to continue feeding into those ignorant and racist stereotypes.
THEY ARE ACTORS. They should be able to play ANYTHING that they feel they are good at. Purple, white, green, black, white it doesn't matter...
Latino ISN'T a race - it's a culture a background because like I said before they come in ALL colors
I disagree, if you are Black you CANNOT play a white person and vice-versa, it's just stupid! and the character didn't have to be white, the character could've been Latina, I want people that look like myself in movies, not only white people or non-whites pretending to be whites, I'm glad America will be a Hispanic country by 2050 and btw I love JLo and she's always said that she's a POC not a white person!
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I'm glad to know the ONLY thing you got out of my post was that I SOMEHOW said a white person should play a black person and vice versa.
And what do you like Alien? or something? People who look like you?
You are obviously the reason why Hollywood has Stereotypes. You ACTUALLY think "Latino" is a race. Ignorance at it's fullest potential.
This just sounds to me like some sort inferiority complex.
What in the world is a POC?
You can be PROUD to be a LATINO but still be white or black or native or even Asia! (Peru, for example, has a very large population of Peruvian Asians)
You don't have to be cast in a movie say you're latino and have brown skin brown hair and brown eyes and you don't have to be in a movie and say you're Caucassian and be cast with the whitest skin and blondest color hair with blue eyes... you can be a white person who has tan skin brown hair and brown eyes, too.
just like you can be from a Spanish speaking COUNTRY and have the whitest skin, lightest eyes, and blondest hair out there,
STEREOTYPES MUST END!!
People of Color: POC and I know what you're saying I'm part Korean too, but you really come across as a person who thinks that white is better and what you said about all Latin roles being about maids and gang members, that's simply nor true, Salma Hayek played Frida, who was not a maid, she also played Adam Sandler's wife in Grown Ups, a designer, not a maid, so what you say is simply not true.
What you don't understand or what you don't wanna understand is that JLO is not White, she's a light-skinned mulatta with Taino blood, she's not white, therefore, she shouldn't play White characters, if I were an actor, I would never play a White character because that's an insult to my ancestry.
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Salma Hayek KNOWS how to pick her roles.. same goes with Penelope Cruz - those women demanded respect and refused to be stereotyped (even thought they both have accents) not to mention they have an incredible amount of talent. Alfred Molina is ALSO another one who is very proud of his heritage he has been able to play ALL SORTS of roles.. British, American, Mexican, etc...
Then there's people like Jennifer Lopez.. who until recently has always been stereotyped: Maid in Manhattan? Remember that failure?
Like I told you before, I work in the industry and have seen COUNTLESS scripts for "latinos" and trust me they aren't something to be proud of. Eva Mendes I know for a fact agrees with what I've said. This isn't about WHITE POWER. This is about PUTTING DOWN Stereotypes of ANY ethnic group, culture, etc.
Most of the scripts we see that actually mention someone of a Spanish speaking culture - guess what their background story is? "I grew up in the poorest part of town, my mom was on welfare, my dad was a drug dealer and I no longer wanted that life so I moved out and started fresh..." as for the casting calls they ALWAYS ask for someone who is super super tan with brown/black hair and brown eyes or as the industry affectionately calls it "Ethnic Features" - you know, because NO ONE ELSE can have tan skin, brown hair, and brown eyes UNLESS you are Hispanic.
It's very rare to see a role where they mention ethnicity and that person isn't somehow stereotyped- that's all I'm talking about.
The part about Eva agreeing is that she will NOT get cast in romantic comedies for example it may have been that movie "Music & Lyrics" with Hugh Grant and Drew Barrymore where Drew got picked over Eva because Eva looked too "ethnic" but why should it matter? Why does the image of a typical American have to be something of what Drew Barrymore looks like? You said it yourself America will be predominantly "hispanic" by 2050 so then why in movies should an American ALWAYS look like Kate Hudson, Drew Barrymore, Anne Hathaway, etc... Eva Mendes is AMERICAN born here or not she is still an American. So you tell me Why was she not cast then?
BECAUSE OF A SIMPLE STEREOTYPE.
And, lastly, if Eva had been cast in "Music & Lyrics" I don't think her ethnic background should have been featured or even mentioned because it's a movie about "Music & lyrics" not about trying to justify why she was cast in the movie despite not having your stereotypical "American Look"... how she looks shouldn't affect anything; she's American. Hell, even America itself has their own stereotype to describe what "White" is: "blonde hair, blue/green eyes, and very pale skin"
LIKE I SAID IT MUST STOP!! Hispanics ARENT ALIENS! We're just people and we come in all different COLORS with a HUGE RANGE of different FEATURES.
Is that a fact? Do you have examples? Surely you're not speaking of the crapfest you call telemundo.
shareCaucasian is problematic as even fewer "Caucasians" are from the Caucus Mountains than are "white" skinned.
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Not many Latinos, only people from Argentina are 99% white. She should've had mestizo looking relatives in the movie, or at least change her moron Bronx accent to sound like another type of Latina character.
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You can be white and Latino/Hispanic. Hispanic/Latino is not a race.
But Lopez doesn't always play a Latina character in her movies.
Thank you! I don't know why they get so mixed up. Race, nationality and ethnicity are three COMPLETELY different category of things. People shouldn't be using them interchangeably because we actually come in combinations of these! We are not one or the other. Each one of us belong to all three! This blurring is just as nonsensical as an interchangeability of race, gender and sexual orientation. Can you imagine comprehending a statement like "Oh, that makes no sense! How come her parents are gay and she is Latino?". If you don't want to deal in terms of race then take it out of the equation completely.
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lol are you serious, you can be white and be hispanic, in fact Jenniffer Lopez' parents are of pure European descent, google it or check her IMDB trivia, get your facts straight, lol "she is not, in fact, white" lol
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Hispanic/latino is not a race. It's the same thing as having black african americans, and black hispanics (see the difference now?). Although, I think that what the poster implied is that, Jennifer Lopez doesn't look like your typical white american girl, even though her grandmother, mother and kids do.
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You guys are not paying attention. What the OP meant was why is she drawn as white when she's clearly got more of an olive skin tone? It has nothing to do with racism. I don't go around drawing myself as an Asian (which I am not) even though I think the Asian culture is awesome.
I'm sure the OP is informed enough to know that not all Hispanics have the same skin tone. The point was that to J.Lo, specifically, her skin isn't white. So, why should she be drawn as white? It's senseless. If I hadn't known she was in the movie, I would've thought it was a white girl as the main actress given the impression the cartoon gives.
Other than that, I couldn't care less if J.Lo is embarrassed or not of her Hispanic background. It is what it is.
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Amazing everything spouted is, what the Government consents to be accepted.
Racially white and ethnically Hispanic or Latino. You either are white or you not, seems like trying to fix in with whatever would make life easier.
And to say they have no African Background at all, you need to read a lot more cause that is absolutely not true. sorry to break it to you.
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Davve11- You are a racist too. Just because white is the "dominant" race (here in the US) doesn't mean you can't be racist toward them. I believe there are evil dictators of most every race and serial killers as well. would you like examples? Pretty lame argument you have there.
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I rember years ago a San Franciso fireman was promoted as part of the affirmative action program. Hispanics went crazy saying the man's ancestors came over from Spain and it made him a European. In the western US a lot of Basques came over from the mountains in Spain and were used as sheepherders in rural. It was temper tantraums like this that left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
As far as Hispanics not being African take a look at the major league baseball players in this country from Cuba,Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Most have decidedly African appearances with Spanish surnames.
Also take a look at those huge stone heads in Mexico constructed centuries ago by the Toltecs. They are obviously African. Check out the book "They Came Before Columbus" for background.
Ok, just because THOSE countries you mentioned have a lot of Blacks doesn't mean the ENTIRETY of the Hispanic Speaking countries have predominately Blacks in them.
Aregentia for example has 86.4% who consider themselves European while there's only 8% who are mestizo (native/european mix)
Colombia has 50% European (predominantly Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and German) 4% African 14% Mestizos and 3% Amerindian mixed with African and 1% Natives
I could continue to list but those 2 are the 2 I am most familiar with. I have been to both places and in Bogota Colombia it is VERY rare to see a Black person - not because they are racist (even though there ARE racists there, too) but because the majority of the blacks live up North by the coast. There's actually an Island off the coast of Colombia that is all black people with light eyes they are gorgeous! But in Bogota, everyone I saw was white and they looked like your STEREOTYPICAL "white Americans" blonde hair, blue eyes, very white skin or olive skin green eyes brown or blonde hair or white or olive skin with brown hair brown eyes or light eyes.
I saw a lot of mestizos, too (very dark skin brown hair and brown eyes) but the majority of the pupolation in Bogota was WHITE.
and in Buenos Aires, Argentina when I went I didn't see many black people if any
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"Hispanic" is not a race.
"Latino" is not a race either.
To say something like, "Other than that, I couldn't care less if J.Lo is embarrassed or not of her Hispanic background." and to equate this situation with something like "I don't go around drawing myself as an Asian (which I am not) even though I think the Asian culture is awesome" proves you are ignorant of this very fact as you are talking about "Hispanic" as if it was just the same as "white" or "black".
"Hispanic" means a relation to Spanish speaking culture.
"Latino" means a relation to "Latin America".
Neither refers to race.
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i totally agree. when i saw that cartoon first thing i thought of is, lopez's skin is not white! why on earth is the cartoon portraying her as such? especially when she has such gorgeous coloured skin that i, as a white freckley thing would love to have.
and to the people on here pulling the racist card, its not! OP is not making a derogatory comment. rather is just pointing out the inconsistencies and hollywoods pressure to make everyone white!
what is it with americans and their race issues
so her character was white big deal the simpsons r yellow but clearly american
I agree, she is Latina and she should be cast as such. I think it is something to be very proud of and I prefer to see her play a role but also to be a latina in that role.
shareok... and what does the "LATINA" role mean? Does she have to live in the Ghetto and wear Hoop earrings and talk with an accent? work as a maid? Have super dark skin? brown hair? I don't get WHY "Latino" actresses WHATEVER THE HELL THAT MEANS have to be PUT in a box... if anyone NOT born in the USA or Britain tried to play a PERIOD PIECE people would FLIP OUT and say "SHE'S LATINA AND SHOULD BE CAST AS ONE"
But what about when Angelina Jolie played the white of that reporter who got murdered in the middle east? She was French/Black.. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING if anything she got praised for it... Jessica Alba played Susan Storm and people created an uproar because she wasn't American enough.. Even though SHE was BORN in America and if you want to CONTINUE to be in the box of stereotypes she certainly passes as your "Average American girl" from California.
Why do you think Andy Garcia doesn't want to be labeled a LATINO Actor? BECAUSE PEOPLE STEREOTYPE HIM and they feel he should play roles that ONLY put Hispanics in a box of which they can't get out of playing roles after roles of them being the minority who is struggling to come out on top.
Stereotypes need to be thrown out the window and it doesn't matter if you're British, Argentinian, Bolivian, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Colombian, etc... your skin color, your cultural background, where you're from SHOULD NOT determine what kind of ROLES you play. They are ACTORS and they should defined by their craft and not their ethnicity
THAT IS NOT an inconsistency in Hollywood... my Grandmother is PALE with blonde hair and green eyes my mother is also fair skinned with a slight olive tone she has brown (now blonde) hair and brown eyes and my sister is as Pale as my grandmother with brown hair and brown eyes...I TURNED OUT somewhat fair skinned (when I was little) but because I produced A LOT of melanin and spent countless hours over the years in the sun I have now a tan light olive tone to my skin and I have brown hair and brown eyes... So am I not WHITE anymore? Do I have to change my race? My family came to Colombia from Spain in the 1900's or something like that and our ancestry is Spanish, French, possibly German and Italian
So... why is her having a "White" grandmother and mother in the movie an inconsistency again??