She went out like a CHAMP
Exactly how I want to do it if I ever get the guts.
shareWhat really would have taken guts is to get clean and sober, and be present for all of the people who loved and cared for her.
If she went out for good this time, she was very selfish, even if she thought she was doing them all a favor.
When a person dies from a cancer that others have survived, is that a sign of selfishness? Or is the painful reality that humans are simultaneously similar and dissimilar, such that disease affects everyone differently and no two people ever have exactly the same disease even if the diagnosis on paper is identical?
Please open your mind about addiction, which is a disease. And if you're not ready to open your mind to that fact, then please keep in mind that addicts turn to substances in an attempt to dull immeasurable pain. Some people can get to the other side; some can't -- some are too maimed by their families of origin to walk to the other side. So please open yourself up to the possibility of compassion for people who are that broken.
"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."
I get so sick of people calling suicides selfish. As if it's not ENTIRELY selfish for bystanders to want (depressed) others to endure twenty, thirty, forty even FIFTY more years of pain, just so THEY themselves won't experience loss??
Get over the codependence!
My thoughts exactly!!!
shareI loved the ending, thought it was very appropriate for Jackie, but my interpretation was that it was an accidental overdose not a suicide. The moment she got her job back she started on the drugs again, but it's common for people who've been clean for a while to overestimate how much their bodies can handle.
Couldn't this have been true for Jackie? Perhaps she only wanted to get very high?
Jackie being a decades long nurse, treating addicts in the ER, and being in treatment herself, she KNEW that was waaaaay too much heroin.
shareAnd leaving loved ones to question what they could have done to change things is ok?
shareWell maybe some of our " loved ones"would be finally unburdened. Every one is different. Maybe they might breathe a sigh of relief.
shareEh, if you're so narcissistic as to think YOU could be the savior, you're probably going to question how you could have prevented any death. And I assure you, whether from suicide or cancer, there will always be questions and guilt pangs left after someone dies.
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I don't fault people for this feeling. It is counterintuitive to take your own life. Survival is so engrained in us that responding to imminent threat is triggered as a reflex or involuntary response that we don't have to think about. Our bodies prepare for our survival at literally the cellular level when we sense danger. It is not easy to empathize with an ability to suppress these emotions and actually choose to let death take you. If that is compounded with the normal fears of what happens to what I leave behind then it is not illogical to understand why people can not come to terms with suicide. By its very nature, it implies you are mentally ill or have a condition that needs to be treated. Even when there is a great deal of pain a depressed person is experiencing to reach that point, its fair to say that those emotions are not normal. It is not normal to be debilitated with pain when there is no source. So I tend to interpret the 'selfish' moniker as selfish for not seeking treatment rather than just selfish for what an illness lead a loved one to. Its just very complicated and it doesn't even address those who may hold strong religious beliefs about where their loved ones end up for eternity. I empathize with both because there is nothing there but an excess of pain on both sides.
shareSo I tend to interpret the 'selfish' moniker as selfish for not seeking treatment
Because everything has a cure?
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Is that what I suggested?
shareI couldn't agree more it is EVERY persons right to decide if they want to bow out.... Not yours not mine.... Awesome ending at the end of it all Jackie tried so hard this season and lost hope she wanted to
Go... Having dealt with addiction for years yes I'm clean now but I had friends who decided to leave us and I can never blame them. We don't know what someone else's past traumas are some are just too much to bear... RIP Jackie
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Jackie was not the victim of a disease. This "disease" nonsense, applied to drug and alcohol addicts, is absurd and stupid. When someone is diagnosed with Parkinsons, ALS, a brain tumor, etc., That is a disease. When someone makes a decision to take a prescription pill recreationally, or an illegal drug, instead of not taking it, and it makes her feel high, so she decides to take another one, until she is addicted, that is just a stupid choice. Yes, you're right--I'm heartless with regard to these kind of people, and my mind is not open to the "fact" that their problem is a "disease", because it's not a disease.
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