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All the problems with this movie!


First off there will be spoilers.

Where to start. For starters they aren't fearing the common cold like the voice over said, it's actually the flu. Also what's the point of quarantining someone if you are going to put more than one person in a room, won't they just keep giving each other the flu?

Problem 2. Briggs knows Mason is going to be a problem yet he decides to leave? Thus giving Mason the chance he needs to take control.

Problem 3. How did the cannibals follow Briggs and Sam? You're expecting me to believe in a place that is snowing literally 24/7, their tracks didn't get completely covered up in the first minute?

Problem 4. Why did Briggs feel the need to sacrifice himself? Why didn't he just pick up the dynamite light it again and start running and then throw it back?

Problem 5. When they are back at there bunker why didn't they find a better place to defend from, one where you know they couldn't be attacked from all sides. Mason is suppose to have some military background since he served with Briggs. He should have known the best spot to defend from. They had plenty of ammo and weapons they could have given as many people as possible guns and anyone else knives and whatever. All these cannibals had were knives and their hands, they should have easily been able to mow down the cannibals and kick there butts.

Problem 5. How long do they think they will last with next to no supplies, when they are leaving to go to the thaw?

There are many more problems I noticed but I can't be bothered listing anymore.
Overall there were a lot of problems in this movie that could easily have been fixed. This is a clear cut case of very lazy writing, I know it's just some low budget movie but still doesn't excuse the problems this movie had.

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I'll only comment regarding the flu. No, the would not keep giving each other the flu. The body would build antibodies to the but in question (or die). But when (for example) the flu makes its rounds every year, it isn't the same bug -in fact, there are many different strains, which mutate (minutely) each year, and each making the rounds is actually more than one -when you (if you do) get the vaccine, it is a combination of the most likely ones to strike the region. Which is one reason that some years the vaccine seems less effective than others (because it is only effective against certain strains). So quarantines involving multiple people in one area (with the same illness) not only make sense (from a practical standpoint) but are actually in use today in hospitals (a patient in isolation may in fact be housed with another patient, as long as their 'infection' is the same.)

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Yeah that's been explained to me in this thread already lol. I admit my mistake there. I read up on all the flu stuff so it made sense now.

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Just having watched the movie, I'm going to take a crack at this just for a technical exercise.

"Where to start. For starters they aren't fearing the common cold like the voice over said, it's actually the flu."

Sam actually said the cold and the flu are both problems. In harsh conditions with limited resources and everyone is in a confined space, yes a simple cold is a very serious problem. If you look at the worst parts of third world nations, simple illnesses that cause you and me a weeks worth of annoyance is deadly to those people.


"Also what's the point of quarantining someone if you are going to put more than one person in a room, won't they just keep giving each other the flu?"

The only time this happens is when the couple were infected. If the trio had made it back, if one has the flu it's likely the others have it also. If the flu is deadly, they can't take any chances letting a possibly infected person roaming the base, as explained in the film the last outbreak killed a few dozen people.

Problem 2. Briggs knows Mason is going to be a problem yet he decides to leave? Thus giving Mason the chance he needs to take control.


Hence Briggs authorized the use of force if Mason stepped out of line. It didn't work, but having no confidence in someone and predicting the exact moment they go nuts are entirely different things.

Problem 3. How did the cannibals follow Briggs and Sam? You're expecting me to believe in a place that is snowing literally 24/7, their tracks didn't get completely covered up in the first minute?


If the snow was constantly settling, then absolutely everything, including the street lights, helicopter, bridge and the surface sections of the colonies would also be covered. Additionally the journey is as the crow flies, all they needed to do was follow Sams route until line of sight. Also the cannibals seem to have some form of intelligence, so it's not difficult to believe they found another route.

Problem 4. Why did Briggs feel the need to sacrifice himself? Why didn't he just pick up the dynamite light it again and start running and then throw it back?


Because quite a few were already attempting to cross while it was lit, hence that if he lit it and threw it (or just placed it) the cannibals would have caught up as he was taking cover.

Problem 5. When they are back at there bunker why didn't they find a better place to defend from, one where you know they couldn't be attacked from all sides. Mason is suppose to have some military background since he served with Briggs. He should have known the best spot to defend from.


He did, the main entrance, it would have bottle necked the cannibals so all they had to do was keep shooting until the attacks stopped. They didn't anticipate an attack from the ventilation system, which was a mistake but, after having no major attacks what are you expecting? As explained in the film, the only big problem they suffered was an infected person venturing back into the colony.


They had plenty of ammo and weapons they could have given as many people as possible guns and anyone else knives and whatever. All these cannibals had were knives and their hands, they should have easily been able to mow down the cannibals and kick there butts.


Because everyone turns into the terminator as soon as problems begin, on the other hand the look of absolute fear should have given you a clue. Not everyone in the world is a hero. But saying that, if everyone did suddenly turn into a mass killing machine, you would be complaining about that instead of a lack of combat experience.

Good enough?

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Thanks, leonis89! I was hoping somebody would take care of these "problems" - they seemed pretty unconvincing to me as well...
I thought the film was miles above the average 21st century SF-horror movie, low-budget or otherwise. Sure, not memorable or anything but, on the other hand, as opposed to like 80-90% of said movies, this one I actually expect I'll watch again at some point. It was pretty enjoyable and well made, had a rather interesting story (which I didn't think was THAT unoriginal, considering how many post-apocalyptic scenarios have already been explored by now) and the small flaws were quite neglectable.

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Just watched this..8/10 really good fast paced b movie!!such a shame people get stuck with minor details and cant enjoy the film for what it is!! not flawed imo..i liked the (b) atmosphere. And all the ice..time to rewatch the Thing!

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Plenty good enough for me...

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Just having watched the movie, I'm going to take a crack at this just for a technical exercise.

"Where to start. For starters they aren't fearing the common cold like the voice over said, it's actually the flu."

Sam actually said the cold and the flu are both problems. In harsh conditions with limited resources and everyone is in a confined space, yes a simple cold is a very serious problem. If you look at the worst parts of third world nations, simple illnesses that cause you and me a weeks worth of annoyance is deadly to those people.


"Also what's the point of quarantining someone if you are going to put more than one person in a room, won't they just keep giving each other the flu?"

The only time this happens is when the couple were infected. If the trio had made it back, if one has the flu it's likely the others have it also. If the flu is deadly, they can't take any chances letting a possibly infected person roaming the base, as explained in the film the last outbreak killed a few dozen people.


The whole cold/flu issue hamstrings this ridiculous movie from the beginning; how are these people coming into contact with strains of the cold or flu? Either it's surviving in the compound for YEARS among the inhabitants or once no one is infected, no one can be. Same is true for the other stations so unless they are letting in random travelers, it just doesn't make sense.


Problem 3. How did the cannibals follow Briggs and Sam? You're expecting me to believe in a place that is snowing literally 24/7, their tracks didn't get completely covered up in the first minute?
If the snow was constantly settling, then absolutely everything, including the street lights, helicopter, bridge and the surface sections of the colonies would also be covered. Additionally the journey is as the crow flies, all they needed to do was follow Sams route until line of sight. Also the cannibals seem to have some form of intelligence, so it's not difficult to believe they found another route.


This explanation makes no sense unless this snow is somehow different from what we currently experience here on Earth. With power line towers virtually buried under mountainous drifts, the helicopter remains would be completely obscured. One plausible explanation is that the downed chopper was a recent event but the movie conveys that a good deal of time has passed since men or machines moved about with any regularity. The bridge could possibly be clear due to the wind blowing through the pass but most likely it would have drifted some. Regardless, with snow falling as depicted in the movie, their tracks would have been obscured within an hour or two at most. And as far as the cannibals tracking them, they would have no idea which way to go once they cleared the rubble at the station. Line of sight has no meaning to them because they don't know the destination/end point.


Problem 4. Why did Briggs feel the need to sacrifice himself? Why didn't he just pick up the dynamite light it again and start running and then throw it back?
Because quite a few were already attempting to cross while it was lit, hence that if he lit it and threw it (or just placed it) the cannibals would have caught up as he was taking cover.


He had plenty of time to grab the dynamite and light it on the run for a throw. If the argument is that he had to stay with it to make sure it lit, then that was a foolish choice since he ran the risk of it not lighting and then getting overrun anyway. Better to create distance and work on the fuse while he had time to decide to continue with the dynamite or try a counter attack. This is not a big deal as far as the writing goes (people can do weird things under pressure) but as a soldier and survivor it was a strange choice.


Problem 5. When they are back at there bunker why didn't they find a better place to defend from, one where you know they couldn't be attacked from all sides. Mason is suppose to have some military background since he served with Briggs. He should have known the best spot to defend from.
He did, the main entrance, it would have bottle necked the cannibals so all they had to do was keep shooting until the attacks stopped. They didn't anticipate an attack from the ventilation system, which was a mistake but, after having no major attacks what are you expecting? As explained in the film, the only big problem they suffered was an infected person venturing back into the colony.


No one would anticipate an attack from the ventilation system because only a movie building/compound would have such a ludicrous design. First, that large duct work would be for air supply, not exhaust, and as such the cannibals would have to go through an HVAC unit to get into it. Even if they were former service techs and knew where the units were, they would basically need to destroy the unit to get past it. But suspending disbelief on that point, as a military man, Mason used horrible tactics by staying so far from the point of entry they expected the cannibals to drop down through. Essentially they had them in a "fatal funnel" and could have easily defeated all of them with just a few shooters (remember, they knew the cannibals had no missile weapons).


They had plenty of ammo and weapons they could have given as many people as possible guns and anyone else knives and whatever. All these cannibals had were knives and their hands, they should have easily been able to mow down the cannibals and kick there butts.
Because everyone turns into the terminator as soon as problems begin, on the other hand the look of absolute fear should have given you a clue. Not everyone in the world is a hero. But saying that, if everyone did suddenly turn into a mass killing machine, you would be complaining about that instead of a lack of combat experience.


As before, they had several qualified shooters as evidenced by how they handled themselves once the cannibals were in the compound. So if they would have deployed correctly, as Mason should have instructed, they would have easily overwhelmed the invaders.

But beyond all that (and there's lots more still not mentioned by the OP), the biggest flaw is simply this; in a barren snow covered world, where no food grows outside these few locations, what in the hell have the cannibals been eating for all these years? Are we to believe that 20+ humans have been roaming the frozen wastes and finding enough food to subsist for a couple decades? Clearly the surviving humans are few and far between, not nearly enough to sustain a pack of cannibals. And where do they shelter while on the move? Sam barely survived his return trip to the station after Briggs blew the bridge but the cannibal boss doesn't bother to cover his head, ears, or face. In that climate frostbite would have claimed his nose and ears in a day. There are lots of problems with this movie and whether it started with the script, or a poor interpretation by the director, the result is the same--a horrible mess that gets in its own way of being a decent flick.

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Also the references to the global warming alarmist agenda:

Because the earth was getting "too hot", the humans created the weather machines and got it wrong. Have you check out the windows the last few years? Where's the warming?

The single windmill that power up and entire complex. Windmills are very bad electricity generator, and only work 25% of the time (too much or too few wind and they don't work). Also they work very badly in cold environment (icing)


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1. doesnt matter much or bother anyone really.

2.Yup it was very stupid. Morpheus was dumb I guess.

3.True but i dont know much about snow tracking. I know footprints get covered but how long does it take and can an expert tracker still use them.

4.You are wrong here. He had to hold on to make sure it was lit and also there was too much going on around him.

5. Some of the things you say arent guaranteed. It was a place to stay. They probably weren't used to attacks and how do we know who well they can defend that place. It's not a fortress. Ammo and guns doesn't make everyone a sharpshooter. Remember the last samurai lol

6.True that is why they probably ended the movie where they did. Probably didn't have time to explain how they could make it.

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When they went to colony 7 to help and I saw all the blood I thought of zombies, 2nd guess cannibals. How lame they got presented, jeez. No word, no reason, no background... stupid humans running like brainless zombies killing senselessly other humans (like a bad mix of Event Horizon and Pandorum) and chasing ppl with guns.

Until that moment the movie was alright but instantly dropped from a rating of 6 with potential of a 7 to 4.

I quit watching after the so foreseeable dumb Mason with his stupid sidekick took over colony 5 in a well predictable pattern. Movie dropped to 2, thanks for the wasted hour and goodbye.

Gosh, rather 2x After Earth than this.


Morpheus would have done better.

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Natsu21, you're looking for confirmation that you're an idiot and I'm gonna deliver. You're an idiot! You're first point is nitpicking. We don't know enough about the world they're living in to act like we're experts. In my world the flu nor a cold kills people. Paxton's caharacter is the only issue that deserves criticism, but alot of movies have this type of plot hole. Where the squeaky wheel is overlooked till it's too late. You can complain all you want about the footprints in the snow but they don't actually show you a clock to indicate how much time has passed. It's obvious you're stretching to find reasons to complain. You're fourth point makes you a moron! Briggs couldn't get the dynamite to light till it was too late for him to get away. He sacrificed himself to hopefully ensure that "The Colony" remained safe. You're 5th point reinforces my 2 points that A) you're stretching to find reason to whine and B) that you really are a moron that has trouble comprehending what you've seen and heard. They didn't have much time to prepare to defend because Mason was being a dick like you. Isn't it obvious that the feral humans found alternate means to enter the facility that the colonists did not anticipate? I have to read some more of your ramblings later(about other movies) to see how much of a disadvantage your intellectual deficit really is. The visuals in this movie were as good as it gets and the atmosphere was perfect. The last 30 minutes seemed compressed as if it were running over budget. That's my only real complaint though I wish they'd have reconciled the Paxton character more satisfactorily. Oh, your last gem of a point about scarce supplies for their journey at the end. Do you know how many miles it is? It didn't look like more than 3 times the disyance they traveled their colony to the other and that wasn't more than 24 hours plus they had no choice. Stop manufacturing reason to hate!

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Poor troll is trying to troll but fail Next time try and not make it so obvious and someone might actually listen to what you have to say.

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You need a life @Natsu21! I've never seen anyone come back to the same thread every few days over several months. And if you're calling me the troll that's hilarious and so amazingly wrong. You're very obtuse aren't you? I just watched this movie and decided to take a look at what people are saying on here. I hate when people overstate their opinion so I clicked on your thread to see just how insanely ludicrous it was and I wasn't disappointed. Calling this a "B" movie only illustrates my point. Saying it failsin every aspect further proves my point and calling me a troll, well that just proves what I said a few minutes ago that when your over-taxed brain can't handle adversity you hurl the words fail and troll at everyone and everything

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Uh huh, well have fun trolling :)

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You criticize "Fallen" and call "The Raven" a must see. I only took a glance but you seem to have plenty of negative things to say about most movies except The Raven. I only looked at the first page.

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You do realize people are allowed to express their opinions right? Also people are allowed to dislike a movie, and have different opinions about it than others right? Oh know what else people are allowed to do? Go on to movie forums and say "I didn't like this movie" because that's what movie forums are there for, so people can freely talk about what they did and didn't like about this movie. Also I will give you this, I did do a lot of negative reviews, I was new on here and wanted to share my thoughts, I quickly realized though that these were coming off more like rants and not reviews and were something that belonged in forums and not a review. So I stopped doing reviews.

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@Natsu21 -->Don't even bother with this person.. All he does is rant all over IMDB..

...decided to take a look at what people are saying on here. I hate when people overstate their opinion so I clicked on your thread to see just how insanely ludicrous it was and I wasn't disappointed.


Looking for things he can go off about... He needs another hobby if you ask me.
the best thing you can do is Ignore him forever. I bet he will get angry if you do...


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Thanks for the heads up. I think I will follow your advice and just ignore him. :)

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I have to chime in, you will continue to lose every argument in life if all you do is insult other people and not add to or counter a point brought forth by the other person in the argument. Everyone has the right to their opinion, but not according to you, if we are not in concert with what you espouse then you jump to insults.

Personally the movie was a one off. I did not hate it but, DAMN, it could have been a lot better. I mean how long did they live in Colony 5 and did not realize they could be breached through the vents. Lazy writing is correct for the reason I mentioned and many many more.

Now that being said, I am glad you liked the movie. I hope it brought you a couple of hours of enjoyment, maybe more if you watch it again.

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The cannibal angle was great... but then the story revolved around the combat. Too bad they didn't deal with that plot and then go on a quest to find the sun hole. There was so much potential here and the film just whimpered out.

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I agree with the OP's points and the movie was a little weak, but maybe I expected it to SUCK... I mean I didn't have any hope for this movie, but because there was nothing to do today, skipped work because of the weather I decide to watch this movie on demand and was surprised that it was a lot better than I expected. The graphics were good, the acting was good, too many potholes - but still was entertaining. I think it could have been longer. It would be interesting to see a sequel.

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probably take less time to list what was good with this film....

...it ended!




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