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Good atmosphere but cop-out ending


Without harping on details, the depicted ending of the film feels very artificial given the wretched conditions at the hospital and the obvious unease of the doctors. Keep in mind the types of programs sniffed out by Teddy are today acknowledged to be pervasive at the time. A reveal such as his partner being escorted off the island just as Teddy is whisked off to his lobotomy would be the natural conclusion to this thriller. As it is, the buildup is wasted and the end result is unmemorable.

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Without harping on details


Smart move.


Those would create dissonance to your understanding of the movie.


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Devil's in the details?

Are they slow? Yeah, they're dead.   They're all messed up. 

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That understanding requires the stomach for critical thought, which some are allergic to

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An empty stomach.


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How much is the CIA paying you to patrol these message boards?

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^Rational question. 


Thanks for playing. 

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Well, this is an interesting post GrandMaitre.

Are you saying that you think that Chuck was really his partner? So when he said that he was Teddy's psychiatrist Dr. Sheehan, do you think that he was brainwashed before Teddy into believing that he was a doctor or that he was just forced into playing that role at the lighthouse?

I used to think similarly but have since changed into believing that he really is Dr. Sheehan.

But I'm open to all interpretations, so I'm curious as to what your take on it is.

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Keep in mind the types of programs sniffed out by Teddy are today acknowledged to be pervasive at the time. A reveal such as his partner being escorted off the island just as Teddy is whisked off to his lobotomy would be the natural conclusion to this thriller.


So Teddy's batsh!t insane conspiracy theory sounded pretty good to you? It's good to know he was able to convince at least one person.

But seriously, have you considered that, if Teddy's conspiracy theory was right, the entire rest of the movie wouldn't have made sense?

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As far as I am concerned, the movie is realistic and makes sense ONLY if they are doing unethical experiments - especially since pretty much the entire film is the "role-play" which is itself an easily identifiable unethical human mind experiment. Otherwise you have to misinterpret the unethical experiment as something that is realistic and reasonable therapy, and that makes no sense. It requires no suspension of disbelief to interpret the "role-play" as an unethical and abusive mind eff because that is what it really is, but even the film's psych consultant admits that the role-play is nonsense as therapy and requires a willing suspension of disbelief to see it as therapy. In my book, something that requires no suspension of disbelief is always more likely than something fantastic that requires the suspension of disbelief.

A common error is the belief that it is more likely they are trying to help Teddy/Andrew than it is that they are using him as an unwitting subject of an unethical mind experiment. The historical context is that they would have never done something like the "role-play" as therapy, but they really did do unethical mind experiments on unwitting subjects. It is a "conspiracy" no matter what - you just think that it is a "conspiracy" to help him. That would never happen, but using unwitting humans as experiment subjects was pretty common.

Why do you think the rest of the movie only makes sense if he is Andrew? Is it because you think you have to believe the doctors? Seriously, if you understood the other opinions you would know this isn't the case at all.


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Why would any intelligent viewer take your statement at face value since it is very possible that you don't even understand the ending and cannot be bothered providing your very possibly blinkered interpretation.

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Isn't the ending more like the opposite of a COP-OUT? This movie starts with a COP-IN, but then the COP is destroyed and the OUT never happens.

It's more like 'COP-IN, CRAZY PSYCHO EVEN FURTHER IN' rather than COP-OUT.

Yes, I know what you mean, but I was thinking of the ending of 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' (although its in-movie title is 'Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail', so which is correct?), that is said to be a "literal cop-out"..

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