can add this to the list which includes Garden State
shareHow are either of these movies self-righteous? They both are coming of age movies about people post-teen struggling with their place in life. That doesn't make them seem self-righteous to me at all.
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Fake coming of age movies that no one can relate to. There's a reason John Hughes films remain so popular over 20 years later: they are coming of age films that feature people we can see ourselves, our friends, our situations in. Garbage like this, and Garden State since the OP brought it up, is relatable to no one outside a Portland or NYC hipster's fantasies. Hell, Adventureland was easier to relate to than this. This nonsense is for the Girls crowd.
shareObviously people related to Garden State it's a very popular movie, years after it was released. I related to it and this film a hell of a lot more than John Hughes stuff.
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Just out of curiosity, where do you live, Door? Garden State is popular with critics, but that's it. It made 35 million. Breakfast Club made 51, not adjusted for inflation. It is still referenced in pop culture, music, movies, tv shows and literature 30 years later. When was the last time *anyone* mentioned Garden State, or hell Zach Braff for that matter?
There ya go.
Every generation gets to make its own coming of age films that will probably not be understood by the older generations.
shareI think the anti-hipsters are almost as obnoxious as the hipsters now. /yawn
shareAgree with "Hancockenstein". Groups of people or styles don't really upset me at all lol. Hipsters? Who the hell cares? It was an enjoyable flick for me. Should be for anyone that likes Emma Roberts and John Cusack.
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It's interesting how some set themselves apart from the "self righteous dreck" of the hipster crowd by employing an elitist attitude of "justified" self-righteousness.
My problem with hipsterdom has always been that it's somehow intelligent to dislike something with condemnation, and then even more "worldly" to haughtily criticize those who may not agree.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you my friend, are seemingly no different from the group you scathe. Arrogance is bs, no matter what label you decidedly cling to.
Eh, not really. What you set up is a situation where only the hipster can dislike something with condemnation while others just twiddle their thumbs. I say *beep* that mentality and say if the other side has an argument - and if it so happens to be sound and persuasive - then don't even pull the "Well you're just the same as them!" F_ck that mentality. I'm sick of it. I'm way too familiar with that type of BS and it's a circular logic of crap.
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The situation that you claim I "set up" is not circular logic, look it up if you have doubts about that. As an easy way out you call my position circular, when in reality, you just lack a strong enough argument to contend against mine; trust me, I see that scenario a lot amongst many other conversations (to clarify, conversations not necessarily involving me).
I did not propose a world where hipsters can dislike things with condemnation while "others just twiddle their thumbs;" however, I did propose that one not (unprovoked) complain about arrogance, whilst indulging in pompous dialogue themselves- because that is what fair minded people consider "hypocrisy." I only hope that the majority of society doesn't respond to the things they hate, by engaging in those very behaviors themselves...but hey, if meeting hate with hate, violence with violence, and foolery with foolery works for you, I don't want to stand in your way of growth and maturity.
Additionally, I did not deny the validity of the OP's claim- as in, I am not in total disagreement, nor did I say that he/she doesn't have a "sound and persuasive" point. If you weren't so caught up in your obvious bitterness against the hipster crowd, then you would have noticed that. And if you don't comprehend how the sort of mentality that you and the OP maintain make you no different from the group you scathe, then I only wish you well in "not being like them."
Good luck with life, that sort of attitude is just what we need in our peaceful world...that was arrogant sarcasm, see how it works? Probably didn't do very well at accomplishing anything remotely near resolve, but that's what you are seemingly arguing for, and I'm not going to lie...it's refreshing to be able to give it.
You, kaymarie, said it best here. There is always some percentage of people who find it necessary to pretend they are more intelligent than other people by attacking movies/music/art/whatever that others like. It is their way of trying to prove they are somehow above the common person, when really all they are doing is making themselves look like asses.
BigScreenDom showed himself to be the pretentious one, by putting down this film in the arrogant, self-righteous way he did.
Oh, and the movie has nothing to do with "hipsters". Just bringing up that term shows that some people here can't watch movies without attaching their own agendas to their views of them.
This thread is so dumb. I can't believe that those who are saying Adult World is pretentious crap for hipsters have even watched the movie. You can't compare Garden State to this. Seriously, there is no possible way to compare the two. This is a comedy. How can a comedy be self righteous? By the way, last I heard, hipsters didn't understand comedy.
Going to random boards on IMDb and spreading the hate about how "blah blah said movie is hipster crap" makes you as annoying as the hipsters who praise such movies just to look cool and alternative.
With much thought, I don't believe GS is as self-righteous as some make it out to be. Not even this movie, despite the little navel gazing that there is and the somewhat unlikeable main protagonist. Actually, I think the unlikeable protagonist, in her actions shows how self-involved she is, makes us (me) feel sorry for her. All she wants is to get published while ignoring her 90K debt in student loans. Her priorities aren't straight of that of an actual adult in the ADULT WORLD.
I would say Josh Radnor's movies are more suitable for the "self righteous" distinction. Heck, that other Emma Roberts movie - um, The Art of Getting By - just screams "Love Me Hipsters!" Or even, dare I say, Xavier Dolan movies (of the two I've watched nothing is really profound, and nothing is new). Dolan kinda reminds of Sophia Coppola, just much better at shaping a narrative w/o turning it into a 20+ music video.
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I can see what you mean on Garden State but I saw that in 9th grade (did hipsters exist back then??) so it's got a soft place in my heart.
Saw this movie last night, and I guess we saw two different films. This was a completely satirical take down of "hipsters," both those who protest obscure causes they don't understand, and crappy poets who waste their time submitting ot the New Yorker.
There was some of that, but there was also some subtle criticism of the hipsters and this garbage generation.
shareHow can you imply that no one can relate to this? I think this movie is completely relatable to any college grad, or anyone nearing that. Im about to graduate college, and life after that scares the *beep* out of me. just like amy I have all these big plans and goals, but the reality is most of these aren't going to come true. I think we can all relate with amy on some level.
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