Another Hollywood Thumbs down to Christianity - From Within (2009) Discussion

[–] 11 years ago

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I bet you think that long, childish post was clever. FYI, Christianity was considered a sect of Judaism before it overtook it in popularity and its teachings became more distinct from traditional Judaic law. Judaism is also one of the oldest religions in the world (dating back over 5000 years).

As for the film, it annoyed me more with its over abundance of cliches. Seemingly good (obviously Jewish) son of a pastor turns into a blood thirsty maniac when the sweet brooding Wiccan boy (who's apparently been loving there this whole time and grew up with these kids) says he doesn't believe in god? It's pandering, shallow, and immature. It felt like the script was written by a 12 year old.

Also, I agree with OP. I've seen my fair share of fundamentalists and while they may be hypocritical, they're never as openly hypocritical as they are in this film. They don't parade around in public drunk, savagely beat other people while quoting scripture at school, or show off their mistresses at church. They make it a mission to keep that stuff secret.

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[–] ScorpionTDC 11 years ago

They portrayed Lindsay and Claire, both Christian girls, as the only truly good characters in the movie (Aidan was portrayed sympathetically as well and IS my favorite <3 But he also cursed the entire town)
I'm Christian and I think people are far too easily offended by this film; it's brilliant

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[–] crazyashell 11 years ago

Christianity is stupid anyway. Get over it.

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[–] midoricarrot 11 years ago

Most Wiccans abide by what is known as the Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do what thou wilt". The vast majority of Wiccans do not endorse casting magic that harms another person. Many Wiccans also believe in the Threefold Law/Law of Return: "It states that whatever energy a person puts out into the world, be it positive or negative, will be returned to that person three times."

Not all witches are Wiccan. What you see represented in the film is not Wiccan. The type of witchcraft that is being practiced in the film is not specified but there is enough evidence to gather that it is most likely not Wiccan at...all.

As for me, I'm not Wiccan but I know enough about it to feel annoyed hearing these sorts of things constantly. It's very misunderstood.

As for the film, I believe it showed that people of EVERY belief system need to think carefully about their actions. It showed everyone can make mistakes...and everyone can also take responsibility for their mistakes and try to do the right thing later on. But, by the time the right change is made, it might unfortunately be too late.

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[–] first-things-first 10 years ago

I agree with midoricarrot about people and our beliefs. It also pointed out how we can refuse to see trouble because we believe that everyone acts/reacts the same. A flaw since we really don't know someone's breaking point until they have reached it.

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[–] lazarillo 10 years ago

It depends on if your talking about Christians (people who follow the basic beliefs of Jesus Christ) or "Christians" (fundamentalist bigots who expect everyone to adopt the same narrow, moronic passive-agressive belief system they have). When it comes to the latter group, I judge those *beep* by their deeds and if anything Hollywood is too nice to them. They're truly despicable human beings who as William Burroughs once said "don't have the key to anything but the sh^thouse".

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[–] first-things-first 10 years ago

The last group has many faces, and I agree if you mean that they don't respect other people's opinion.

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[–] ScorpionTDC 8 years ago

Another Hollywood Thumbs down to Christianity

The most sympathetic character in the entire movie is Lindsay, who's a Christian. The pagan group aren't portrayed as sympathetic outside of Aiden either for starting the curse (and the only reason he doesn't completely lose audience sympathy is because the guy is willing to die to end it, otherwise he'd be treated as reprehensible scum like Sadie and Sean were). If anything, the movie is anti-intolerance, hypocrisy, judgment, etc.

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[–] casak36 8 years ago

Your god can take it. He's god. Beyond that, it's no Wiccan curse. Wiccans have a duty to harm none. It's much much older than Wicca. And both sects were shown in a poor light. The zealots of Christianity burning a woman to death simply for not believing and the pagans for causing the deaths of innocents for revenge. And isn't the main female character a Christian? She was certainly a good sort. To deny that some Christians use their religion to harm is...naive. There are plenty of movies where Christians are good.

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