MovieChat Forums > I Know My Kid's a Star (2008) Discussion > My Post Interview with VH1 - from Helene

My Post Interview with VH1 - from Helene


The Celebreality Interview - Helene


“I’m not here to say how wonderful and marvelous my daughter is. I’m here to try to get her work,” Helene tells us. The mom half of the I Know My Kid’s a Star first runners up answers the accusation she’s living vicariously through her daughter, dishes on stage-mom drama, and reveals why she thought the show was fixed against Cheyenne.


How was your experience on this show?

It was crazy. It was fun, but it was something unlike anything we’ve experienced. I really didn’t care how they portrayed me. I kinda knew going in that the mothers were not going to be shown well. It was kind of obvious from the casting notice. As far as Cheyenne goes, the problem was that if she was actually doing badly, it would have been a different story. That’s one thing we weren’t used to. They were intentionally trying to make her look bad. Like, at the soap opera challenge, which, when she did again after getting direction, she did great on. They tried to confuse her and confuse me, and I felt like at that point, they had their person picked. They just wanted Cheyenne to look bad.

Is this what you were referring to when you said that Cheyenne was judged unfairly from Day 1?

Well, maybe not exactly from Day 1. If you notice, Danny Bonaduce said after the soap-opera challenge, “We really had really, really, really high expectations for you.” I was like, whoa. Did you have high expectations for everyone else? It’s like Cheyenne had to meet a different level of quality than everyone else. If she wasn’t pulling out Academy Award-winning performances, she was out. Cheyenne got a standing ovation at the finale after singing “So Emotional,” and leading up to it, we had a running bet in the house that they’d show it as if McKenzie got it.

Speaking of, you conflicted with Shannon over the final song choice.

A month before the show, that song was promised to us by one of the producers. They let us pick two songs and they said, “Those are your songs.” Cheyenne had been rehearsing “Alone” for a month, and you can even see that when she sings impromptu at the radio station (on the penultimate episode), “Alone” is what she sings.

What did you think about Marki’s feedback to you about accepting responsibility?

Marki has some positive things to say. She knows the business. If anybody with any kind of merit says something, I listen. But when it’s intentionally twisted, it’s hard to take it seriously. Any time Cheyenne needs correction, we work on it. My daughter is the first to say, “I’m not the best in the world. I can learn.”

I imagine that it’s difficult to have a completely objective opinion about your child and his or her talent. How do you account for that? Can you truly be sure when Cheyenne is performing well and when she isn’t?

Well, I’m an acting teacher. I try my best to look at my daughter objectively, but here’s a really good ruler: if we’re going to auditions and we’re not getting call-backs, five auditions later, I’ll say, “Well, something’s going on.” Or if I think she did well at an audition, I’ll call her manager or agent and see if they can get feedback for us. They’ll actually come back to us with, “Oh, we thought she was too young,” or whatever. I try to look at it objectively because I’m not here to say how wonderful and marvelous my daughter is. I’m here to try to get her work. That’s the goal. If you need to fix things, it’s a pretty stupid thing to say, “No, my daughter’s so wonderful and great and marvelous.”

Marki cited your acting history and accused you of living vicariously through your daughter. What do you have to say to that?

I just like to be a working actor. I don’t need to be a star. I just enjoy it. I love being on the set. Basically, Cheyenne was getting auditions and I was on the set and I’m a single mom, and it was getting so crazy, that we just decided to focus on her. But I always tell her, “Anytime you don’t want to do this, it’s fine. Then I can get back into it.” It comes down to what Cheyenne wants. If she wants to go to college and be a nurse or whatever, that’s fine with me.

Marki definitely brought up a stage-mom stereotype with that. Do you consider yourself a stage mom?

Well, I’m a mom of an actor kid. I guess that qualifies me as a stage mom.

Do you think that stage moms get a bum rap?

Yes. Always. Have you ever seen a story about a great stage mom?

Well, I think this show made some headway in humanizing a type.

Girls have a hard enough time with self-esteem. You don’t need to put them down. I don’t believe in that. It’s not going to make a better person, no matter what you’re trying to get your kid to do. I honestly believed that someone like Rocky loved her child so much. Another thing I loved about Rocky is that she was honest with me. Rocky didn’t go behind my back and talk about me and scheme to get me out of the house. When I was upset and crying and everyone walked by me, Rocky gave me a hug. If it weren’t for her, I don’t know if I would have stayed.

How was it going through the mental warfare of the house?

Well, the show’s over, and I don’t want to sit here and badmouth anybody. I don’t do that in life. That said, once Cheyenne started winning, people did not want to be our friend. It’s not Cheyenne that didn’t want to hang out with the kids; it was the kids not wanting to hang out with Cheyenne. I figured going into the show that some of the parents would be stage-mom-y, but I didn’t know how much time would be devoted to scheming and planning and ambushing and all this craziness. I wish all of the parents and children luck. I’m not gonna hold it against them. I don’t hold anything against Gigi even. But I do want to point out that it was all of the moms participating in this and saying things. The way it comes off is that only some of them were saying stuff.

Any bitterness about not winning?

I don’t think the show was fair, and I obviously think that Cheyenne should have won. There are insiders, some people who were actually there, who told me the same thing, so I know it’s not just me. But it’s like, we live in Hollywood. This is our life. We’re used to going all the way and not getting something. What are we gonna do, sit there and stew? No. We move onto the next thing and keep trying and working. There’s a lot of thing working against Cheyenne. She’s not a celebrity’s child. I believe her ethnicity works against her. What am I gonna tell her: “You’re an ethnic child, so I think you should just go wash windows and give up reaching for the stars”? No. I tell her that she can do what she wants to do. If she wants to be the president, I’ll help her. I think my daughter…I know my kid’s a star. (Laughs) I do, though. Whether one of the other kids gets there first, it wouldn’t surprise me. Hollywood is not about being fair. It’s not about talent. The most talented kids don’t work. The most talented kids do not get picked.

Is there anything else you wanted to touch on that we didn’t go over?

I just want to say that my daughter is an awesome girl. She’s very sweet. She’s been working a lot. She just finished this run at American Girl. She just did a music video for Disney, where she sang all the vocals. She did a McDonald’s commercial. She did a P.S.A. for the Humane Society. She did Dancing With the Stars. She did another video dancing with guys who did Dreamgirls and Hairspray. She did a runway show with Kim Kardashian. If my daughter couldn’t take direction, why would she be doing all this work? I also want to make sure that I really wish all the kids luck. There’s enough work for everybody. None of those kids are really in competition with Cheyenne, as far as type. I wish them all the best and I hope that they get what they want out of life. And I hope the moms are happy. I don’t hold anything against anyone. I know it’s just a show.

For a taste of what Cheyenne’s been up to since the show wrapped, click here and listen to a song that she wrote, produced and performed, “Lollipop World


http://blog.vh1.com/2008-05-08/cheyenne-takes-us-to-lollipop-world/

reply

HAHAHA - if that really was posted by Helene as aktorchick then please explain what the BEEP you were thinking. You come off even worse in that interview than I ever thought you were. Geez, talk about lack of grace and diplomacy.

tsk tsk ... does that psycho chick even realize that she feeds off any praise directed at herself or daughter and dismisses criticsm since nobody knows what their talking about??? HELLO !!! WAKE UP !!!

"El riesgo vive siempre!"

reply

HAHAHA - if that really was posted by Helene as aktorchick then please explain what the BEEP you were thinking. You come off even worse in that interview than I ever thought you were. Geez, talk about lack of grace and diplomacy.

tsk tsk ... does that psycho chick even realize that she feeds off any praise directed at herself or daughter and dismisses criticsm since nobody knows what their talking about??? HELLO !!! WAKE UP !!!

"El riesgo vive siempre!"

reply

Why does everyone hate HELEN . . .

ANSWER:

Because TELEVISION PRODUCERS KNOW! There audience
---------------------------------------------

I'm pretty sure if we conducted a survey in response to the show that the data collected would reflect majority of the feelings portrayed upon this board (give or take)

The truth is, the producers set out to make you hate certain people on this show, and love others (anyone can see that). . .

and with Cheyenne they wanted you to hate the mom (because she's an easy target . . . she looks like she should be hated), and think that Cheyenne was to overconfident when she shouldn't be. . . and they did it perfectly
--------------------------------------------

Look I just looked at the Soap Opera episode over again. . . if you could just for a second take McKenzie's clip out and play it before or after Cheyenne you would see a complete contrast

McKenzie was praised for acting, hearing several positive comments. . . including the only comment made by the actress who worked with them once again expressing how impressed she was. . .

Then you watch Cheyenne's clip and they showed less of her audition compared to Mckenzie's and then criticized her much more harshly then any of the other competitors (and gave no positive feedback). . . I will admit that Cheyenne did jump from 0 - 50, but in many ways so did McKenzie. . .

And people have been saying that Cheyenne did horrible during the soap opera episode. . . if you watch it you can see that she didn't. . . McKenzie missed a line (which they cut short, the editors) but further more Cheyenne by no means was the worst or did horrible. Cheyenne did Cheyenne majority of the performance was natural except for the crying outburst, but all of the kids did poor-to-okay with that part.

-------------------------------------------

PLEASE STOP HATING ON CHEYENNE AND HELEN. . . If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at GiGi for making it so hard on Alai, or mad at either Gian or his mother for their roller-coaster relationship. .

But don't get mad at Helen or Cheyenne for feeling like she should have won.
Nobodies perfect, we all get mad, frustrated, feel like we should win, jealous even, its human nature.
But lets admit that Cheyenne did deserve to win the challenges she won as well as be in the finals.

P.S.: The interview was not as bad as everybody's making it seem.

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

[deleted]

[deleted]

Helene really yelled at you and your daughter?

reply

[deleted]

Did she blame the ethnic thing on the reason why her daughter didnt get roles?She sure did it on the vh1 blog.

reply

[deleted]

Oh so it was the am erican girl movie she was pissed at.

reply

[deleted]

with all due respect, "MINORITIES" are "majorities" today...kids are affected by the labels you put on them and NO ONE appreciates being called a minor based on their ethnicity or appearance...on.

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

I don't understand all the hatred on here. Are all of you posters in the business? Do you understand how difficult it is to get jobs? Someone said something along the lines of doing commercials meant not making it. Did you know that upwards to 1000 people could be seen for a national soap commercial? You could be asked back 6 or 7 times before you'll even be allowed to speak to the producers. It's tough to get any work at all b/c there is serious competition out there.
If Cheyenne has gotten film work, commercials etc, she's doing extremely well and you should be happy for her, not saying she's not "made it".
I know lots of actors who make a decent living doing what they love and are creatively satisfied but if I told you their names you wouldn't know who they are.

reply

You go CalendarGirl!!!

Thank you,
Helene

reply

[deleted]

The only reason the race factor is out there is becasue of Helene. She used it as factor for Cheyenne not wining the show. So now everyone has to talk about it. Helene only has herself to blame if people are preciving her in a negative light.

reply

Hey, lets not ignore the racism that exist in casting, especially in Hollywood. Race does play a factor as most are written for a particular "type" of individual. So I'm pretty sure that Cheyenne, like others has been denied plenty of work because of her ethnicity, even if she was/is the better performer.

reply

[deleted]



Like I said before Helene and Cheyenne will stay in this little box bumping the walls and not moving forward. Helenes stubborn refusal to except and work on her daughters weekeness will be their down fall. The other is the plain fact that Helene is living through her daughter. When did Cheyenne say she wanted to be in the buisness? On the show she seemed trained to b e saying what she was saying to the cameras. On one of these boards Helene said she put Cheyenne in the buisness because Cheyenne was noticed at her auditions and people ask if her daughter was working. So her mom puts her in the b uisness. Thats not Cheyenne wanting it its her mom wanting it. Its all about Helene and her dream that didnt come true. Marki was write. I also firmley believe Cheyenne is doing this to please her mom. She never once said it was her dream. Helene seem very similar to thise beauty pagents moms. I get that feeling off her. Did you notice at the end of the show when the cameras talk to the moms you see mckenzie with her mom. When they talk to Helene you didnt see Cheyenne at all. More reason to see its all about Helene and her failed career. I have this feeling that it will all come back to bite Helene in the long run.

reply

[deleted]

Helene also seems very desperate to make money anyway she can. That isnt always a good thing either. I was on Helenes blog and she was posting about how Rocky was her friend and some other poster. Like Rocky being a friend is good thing? On sec ond thought maybe the too deserve each other.

Hey what you want ot be that Cheyenne gets imancipated from her momager down the line?

reply

OMG
have you seen that blog at VH1? I don't know if it's a bunch of trolls or whatnot, all I saw was racial crap and foul language.

reply

yeah i think all the moms were scared off the blogs. there all like that on there. there arguing on all three blogs. course helene still pops up on there. I got asked if i was white on there when i posted. Then I saw some posts from ladies talking about being prouud black ladies. My question is how does race matter as a factor in posting on the blog? Here's what I believe, it started on Pams board because her argument with Gigi was scene as racial argument. Then it spread to Helene's board because of the topic of Cheyennes natinality and if it hurts her getting jobs. From there it went to Shannons board cause Helene posted Cheyennes nationality as a reason for her not winning on there amopng other reasons. I believe the topics are way off c ourse and besides does it matter what race you are if you want to post on there. Hoestly! I'm won person who dosen't see color in this world and believe we are all part of eah other.

reply

[deleted]

She also posted that Shannon had something going on with Danny. That Mckenzie had made fun or mocked them in some way. And she went on and on about over hearing Mckenzie in her dressing room telling her mom what could be bought with the money. It was discusting. I c an't see how she felt right ab out putting her bad behavior off on 9 year ol d girl. You could plainly see that it was her and cheyenne bad mouthing the other people on the show . So what if Mckenzie was saying what c ould be bought with the money . Kids do that i'm sure if it had been them they would hae been talking ab out it too. Dosent mean Shannon will let her do it. honestly. And after all Helene is the one that likes to go around saying she is single like she is so desperate for money. and the way she sticks her daughter up everyones nose b uy posting on the b oards. Like thats a good thing. it just going to make everyone sick of her and c heyenne. She couldnt even find it with in her self to congratulate Shannon and Mckenzie just had to go on b ad mouth rant and say howe unfair it was. It was so discusting.

reply

[deleted]

silliestmom-



Helene dosent c ome off as very honest person. She totaly lied in her b log interview. We saw wh at she did on the show and she totally say s he never name called was a lie. Even more shameful to put it off on Mckenzie. Honestly! I don't think Helene has a concious. I don't feel she can tell right from wrong. There for she will never be able to teach right from wrong to her daughter. She j ust uses Cheyenne as a show piece. A t ool to get what she wants.

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

[deleted]

The show has been off for quite some time, and I think its been off so long that people have forgotten that Cheyenne, was very talented, if not the most talented child competiting. . .

Someone said that Cheyenne won 3 and lost like 4, NO!

That is so far from the truth, Cheyenne was never in the bottom . . . and the challenges she didn't win, two of them she was the runner up . . . for example, the dance competition at which she would have, and I believe should have won over Gian.

Cheyenne deserved to win the challenges she won, and deserved to be in the finals, and in my opinion should have won . . . I believe that the most dominate and most talented should always win competitions like this.

reply

[deleted]


The shoe Comercal was the fourth challange I believe. It wasnt about who could dance. It was about who sold the product. Cheyenne was way to over confident in that because her mother was. Did you see how hard she fell when she didnt win? It got worse after the Oliver audition. Cheyenne was way to over dramatic in the soap scene. Wasnt working off the actress, she was way to quick to go to the tears. She even starteled the actress that was working with her. Then hogged the mic in the raio competition and was acting like a wind up doll. Didnt know how to be herself at all in the hosting competiton. All of it is do too her mom. Helene dosent know what she is doing if she did she have a career buy now. She shouldnt bed managing Cheyennes career at all. She was plain out discusting and unprofessional exspecially during the song competiton throughing that big old fit over the song. There going to stay in a tiny box forever hitting walls unless Helene gets her act together.

reply

[deleted]