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My Post Interview with VH1 - from Helene


The Celebreality Interview - Helene


“I’m not here to say how wonderful and marvelous my daughter is. I’m here to try to get her work,” Helene tells us. The mom half of the I Know My Kid’s a Star first runners up answers the accusation she’s living vicariously through her daughter, dishes on stage-mom drama, and reveals why she thought the show was fixed against Cheyenne.


How was your experience on this show?

It was crazy. It was fun, but it was something unlike anything we’ve experienced. I really didn’t care how they portrayed me. I kinda knew going in that the mothers were not going to be shown well. It was kind of obvious from the casting notice. As far as Cheyenne goes, the problem was that if she was actually doing badly, it would have been a different story. That’s one thing we weren’t used to. They were intentionally trying to make her look bad. Like, at the soap opera challenge, which, when she did again after getting direction, she did great on. They tried to confuse her and confuse me, and I felt like at that point, they had their person picked. They just wanted Cheyenne to look bad.

Is this what you were referring to when you said that Cheyenne was judged unfairly from Day 1?

Well, maybe not exactly from Day 1. If you notice, Danny Bonaduce said after the soap-opera challenge, “We really had really, really, really high expectations for you.” I was like, whoa. Did you have high expectations for everyone else? It’s like Cheyenne had to meet a different level of quality than everyone else. If she wasn’t pulling out Academy Award-winning performances, she was out. Cheyenne got a standing ovation at the finale after singing “So Emotional,” and leading up to it, we had a running bet in the house that they’d show it as if McKenzie got it.

Speaking of, you conflicted with Shannon over the final song choice.

A month before the show, that song was promised to us by one of the producers. They let us pick two songs and they said, “Those are your songs.” Cheyenne had been rehearsing “Alone” for a month, and you can even see that when she sings impromptu at the radio station (on the penultimate episode), “Alone” is what she sings.

What did you think about Marki’s feedback to you about accepting responsibility?

Marki has some positive things to say. She knows the business. If anybody with any kind of merit says something, I listen. But when it’s intentionally twisted, it’s hard to take it seriously. Any time Cheyenne needs correction, we work on it. My daughter is the first to say, “I’m not the best in the world. I can learn.”

I imagine that it’s difficult to have a completely objective opinion about your child and his or her talent. How do you account for that? Can you truly be sure when Cheyenne is performing well and when she isn’t?

Well, I’m an acting teacher. I try my best to look at my daughter objectively, but here’s a really good ruler: if we’re going to auditions and we’re not getting call-backs, five auditions later, I’ll say, “Well, something’s going on.” Or if I think she did well at an audition, I’ll call her manager or agent and see if they can get feedback for us. They’ll actually come back to us with, “Oh, we thought she was too young,” or whatever. I try to look at it objectively because I’m not here to say how wonderful and marvelous my daughter is. I’m here to try to get her work. That’s the goal. If you need to fix things, it’s a pretty stupid thing to say, “No, my daughter’s so wonderful and great and marvelous.”

Marki cited your acting history and accused you of living vicariously through your daughter. What do you have to say to that?

I just like to be a working actor. I don’t need to be a star. I just enjoy it. I love being on the set. Basically, Cheyenne was getting auditions and I was on the set and I’m a single mom, and it was getting so crazy, that we just decided to focus on her. But I always tell her, “Anytime you don’t want to do this, it’s fine. Then I can get back into it.” It comes down to what Cheyenne wants. If she wants to go to college and be a nurse or whatever, that’s fine with me.

Marki definitely brought up a stage-mom stereotype with that. Do you consider yourself a stage mom?

Well, I’m a mom of an actor kid. I guess that qualifies me as a stage mom.

Do you think that stage moms get a bum rap?

Yes. Always. Have you ever seen a story about a great stage mom?

Well, I think this show made some headway in humanizing a type.

Girls have a hard enough time with self-esteem. You don’t need to put them down. I don’t believe in that. It’s not going to make a better person, no matter what you’re trying to get your kid to do. I honestly believed that someone like Rocky loved her child so much. Another thing I loved about Rocky is that she was honest with me. Rocky didn’t go behind my back and talk about me and scheme to get me out of the house. When I was upset and crying and everyone walked by me, Rocky gave me a hug. If it weren’t for her, I don’t know if I would have stayed.

How was it going through the mental warfare of the house?

Well, the show’s over, and I don’t want to sit here and badmouth anybody. I don’t do that in life. That said, once Cheyenne started winning, people did not want to be our friend. It’s not Cheyenne that didn’t want to hang out with the kids; it was the kids not wanting to hang out with Cheyenne. I figured going into the show that some of the parents would be stage-mom-y, but I didn’t know how much time would be devoted to scheming and planning and ambushing and all this craziness. I wish all of the parents and children luck. I’m not gonna hold it against them. I don’t hold anything against Gigi even. But I do want to point out that it was all of the moms participating in this and saying things. The way it comes off is that only some of them were saying stuff.

Any bitterness about not winning?

I don’t think the show was fair, and I obviously think that Cheyenne should have won. There are insiders, some people who were actually there, who told me the same thing, so I know it’s not just me. But it’s like, we live in Hollywood. This is our life. We’re used to going all the way and not getting something. What are we gonna do, sit there and stew? No. We move onto the next thing and keep trying and working. There’s a lot of thing working against Cheyenne. She’s not a celebrity’s child. I believe her ethnicity works against her. What am I gonna tell her: “You’re an ethnic child, so I think you should just go wash windows and give up reaching for the stars”? No. I tell her that she can do what she wants to do. If she wants to be the president, I’ll help her. I think my daughter…I know my kid’s a star. (Laughs) I do, though. Whether one of the other kids gets there first, it wouldn’t surprise me. Hollywood is not about being fair. It’s not about talent. The most talented kids don’t work. The most talented kids do not get picked.

Is there anything else you wanted to touch on that we didn’t go over?

I just want to say that my daughter is an awesome girl. She’s very sweet. She’s been working a lot. She just finished this run at American Girl. She just did a music video for Disney, where she sang all the vocals. She did a McDonald’s commercial. She did a P.S.A. for the Humane Society. She did Dancing With the Stars. She did another video dancing with guys who did Dreamgirls and Hairspray. She did a runway show with Kim Kardashian. If my daughter couldn’t take direction, why would she be doing all this work? I also want to make sure that I really wish all the kids luck. There’s enough work for everybody. None of those kids are really in competition with Cheyenne, as far as type. I wish them all the best and I hope that they get what they want out of life. And I hope the moms are happy. I don’t hold anything against anyone. I know it’s just a show.

For a taste of what Cheyenne’s been up to since the show wrapped, click here and listen to a song that she wrote, produced and performed, “Lollipop World


http://blog.vh1.com/2008-05-08/cheyenne-takes-us-to-lollipop-world/

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you don't deserve......never mind...not worth my time

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I love you...but not like that.

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Oh silliestmom, I don't know you...yet you just became one of my favorite people!

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I love you...but not like that.

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It didnt look edited, I just read what the full interview said and the questions and answers were the same as what she posted on here


"When a relationship doesn't work out, I call that a relation$HIT"~Dane Cook

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it was an la times article about the show.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-ca-monitor27apr27,0,2132972.story

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Well Silliest mom, whoever you are. Here's the link:

http://blog.vh1.com/2008-05-08/the-celebreality-interview-helene/

There's no editing. No what do you have to say?

I never respond to you or look at your posts because you are soooo nasty towards my daughter.

Take a look at my daughters IMDB, and click resume and tell me she has no credits. She recently did all of this work:

"She’s been working a lot. She just finished this run at American Girl. She just did a music video for Disney, where she sang all the vocals. She did a McDonald’s commercial. She did a P.S.A. for the Humane Society. She did Dancing With the Stars. She did another video dancing with guys who did Dreamgirls and Hairspray. She did a runway show with Kim Kardashian."

You are the bitter one. Get a life. What kind of life do you have to sit here all day on these boards critizing. Why are you so vile???

Stop being jealous. And don't expect a response. I will go back to not looking at your posts.

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You're bogue.


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Helene,

As a journalist, I am aware of how you can twist people's words, but let's get something clear, you can't twust a person's inflections and attitude. This is why I believe the way you were portrayed was very accurate.

Also, Cheyenne didn't seem to grow at all during the course of the show. Same level of performance at the beginning as the end. However, she came across as a miniture version of you. Translation: conceited, condescending, and fake.

McKenzie took what she learned and heard from everyone and applied it. And Shannon was a mom first and manager later. I'm not sure you know how to be a mom and not a manager.

Oh, and its easy to see why Shannon and McKenzie have a husband and dad involved in their lives and you and Cheyenne are alone.

God Bless America... And Nobody Else.

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Helen,

Please, for the love of your beautiful, innocent child, get the hell over YOURSELF and step out of your daughter's way.

Let this poor child live her life, her REAL life....one where she doesn't have to belong to the heavy burden of your failed dreams for yourself.

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I was discusted after seeing Helenes reply on Shannons vh1 blog. She wrote a long reply on h ow thr judges wer wrong and dann y dosent know what he is doing. And we ddnt see it thatr way were b lind or couldnt see straight. She took personal digs at Shannon and Mckenzie inisting they made fun and mocked her and Cheyenne. She said after Mckenzie won all she did was talk about what she would do with the money. She took to a new extreme buy saying Shannon had something going with Danny and there was favortisum from the begining and thats why Mckzenie won. I never saw her congratulate them only wish them good luck. She also seem to like to go on about how much beter Cheyennes acting and singing was then Mckenzies. At any rate c an we say sore looser!

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Helene, maybe you should have slept with Danny or Marki since you believe in the casting couch. Become a prostitute (whore) and give sexual favors so your daughter can get work. I believe you would be desperate enough to do that and you seem like the type to brainwash your daughter do it when she gets older. Maybe you would have had a career if you did the casting couch or maybe you did do the casting couch but weren't good enough in bed to get work. I was rooting for Cheyenne until I saw she was like you, fake, conceited, condescending. If she's so great, how come she ain't been made it? I disliked you when you were mean to a little child, McKenzie, she apologized to you over a song, though, she didn't really have no reason to, she did because she's a good person and you were cruel. Anyone who is cruel and hurt kid's feelings needs to burn in hell. Feel as you may about the other parents but leave children alone. Shannon is a wonderful mom, if more mother's were like her in the business maybe there wouldn't be so many screwed up kids. Shannon encouraged, motivated her daughter to do well without putting down others and without making her child nasty, conceited, and feeling entitled. Instead of hatiing, learn something. If your child has it, she'll make it, without being nasty or treating others nasty.

By the way, McKenzie was put down and received criticisms, instead of complaining and being a victim, she took the criticisms and applied them and became better, you should have done that since you're such a pro, you think your too much of a pro to listen to anyone but like I said if you and your daughter were so great, you would had been made it. If McKenzie didn't deserve to win, well, maybe she and her mom won because they have a better attitude then you and your daughter. No one in show biz wants to work with arrogant no it alls, especially a parent. Helene, you're doing your daughter a huge injustice passing on your bad flaws to her.

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and to be honest, if she knew the biz she'd know this...it came from a publication. I talked about this in another thread but got jumped on.

During the so-called "Golden Age" of Hollywood, it was not uncommon for would-be-stars to grant sexual favors to directors and/or producers in return for a role in films. These favors were usually rumoured to be on a couch in the filmmaker's office. The phrase "Casting Couch" has been popularized, and although the practice has diminished, the term remains in use.

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Helene, maybe you should have slept with Danny or Marki since you believe in the casting couch. Become a prostitute (whore) and give sexual favors so your daughter can get work. I believe you would be desperate enough to do that and you seem like the type to brainwash your daughter do it when she gets older. Maybe you would have had a career if you did the casting couch or maybe you did do the casting couch but weren't good enough in bed to get work. I was rooting for Cheyenne until I saw she was like you, fake, conceited, condescending. If she's so great, how come she ain't been made it? I disliked you when you were mean to a little child, McKenzie, she apologized to you over a song, though, she didn't really have no reason to, she did because she's a good person and you were cruel. Anyone who is cruel and hurt kid's feelings needs to burn in hell. Feel as you may about the other parents but leave children alone. Shannon is a wonderful mom, if more mother's were like her in the business maybe there wouldn't be so many screwed up kids. Shannon encouraged, motivated her daughter to do well without putting down others and without making her child nasty, conceited, and feeling entitled. Instead of hatiing, learn something. If your child has it, she'll make it, without being nasty or treating others nasty.

By the way, McKenzie was put down and received criticisms, instead of complaining and being a victim, she took the criticisms and applied them and became better, you should have done that since you're such a pro, you think your too much of a pro to listen to anyone but like I said if you and your daughter were so great, you would had been made it. If McKenzie didn't deserve to win, well, maybe she and her mom won because they have a better attitude then you and your daughter. No one in show biz wants to work with arrogant no it alls, especially a parent. Helene, you're doing your daughter a huge injustice passing on your bad flaws to her.

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I can 't b elieve H elene insuated there was soomething going on between Shannon and Danny. How tacky can Helene be? Thats sinking pretty low. It discusted me Helene said that.

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Helene sertainly did. What even stranger is comming to helenes defense on the blogs. Say how gogeous she is. Wouldnt you know the to wackiest moms would stick together.

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Helene commented that she has been managing her daughters career for years. If she was so great as a manager, she wouldn't have needed the exposer from the show in the first place. 10 yrs as a manager. Cheyenne should be past the brink by now but she is not.

Cheyenne took cues from Helene. She copied Helene's child like sour attitude. It hurt her greatly.

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Anytime you don’t want to do this, it’s fine. Then I can get back into it.” ---Wow What is that saying??? Its saying what everyone already knows which is You ARE living through your child and you said it your self right there. Thats pretty $hitty and that makes you look really foolish


"When a relationship doesn't work out, I call that a relation$HIT"~Dane Cook

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I think some of the responses in this thread (especially about not having a man--what the heck year is this?) are completely tacky. People get so rapped-up in Reality TV that they don't stop to remember that it isn't 100% real and editing can make anyone come across a certain way.

Helene, I think your interview was classy.

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who didn't make catty comments on the show? Some of the comments in this thread are cattier than anything that appeared in this show. "blah blah blah, that's why you don't have a man." If some of these people are serious, then that is too funny.

I liked watching this show because its awkwardness made me laugh. It's weird and almost creepy that people take it so seriously that they get on a high-horse regarding the perceived lifestyles of the contestants.


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This is why Cheyenne is only going to be doing McDonalds commercials for the rest of her life. Helene is such an expert on acting and has been doing this for so long she doesn't need to be told what to do. Instead, taking the bitter 'boo hoo life's not fair everyone hates me cuz they're jealous' approach is the way to go and instilling the idea of over confidence into her daughter's mind is perfect. Here's a newsflash, being stuck up is not how you get ahead in the industry. First you actually have to be famous first, then you can have an ego the size of Jupiter. Sure, it's ok to be confident with your daughter, but listen to what other people are trying to tell you and don't throw a hissy fit when you don't get your way. Another thing people face in the industry is things not always happening the way you want. Helene's attitude is going to do no favors for Cheyenne. If I were her, I'd do as Marki said about Pam and get rid of you as an acting coach/manager. Lastly, disrespecting a child and a mother in front of her child is completely immature and embarrassing for your own child.

Cheyenne didn't really need to win anyway. She's at least getting some work and she just has to stick it out there and keep it up. All of the best actors today started out small. McKenzie was someone who needed the win. She is new, inexperienced and she used the show to learn about the industry.

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Do you know how much a National Commercial pays?

Helene

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I agree with ThrownMuse, everything you've said in response to some of these very rude comments, which are based on "Heresy".

Some of you "adults" need to grow up . . . I'm young and have refrained from making any rude comments towards anyone. . .

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