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Okay haters, put your money where your mouth is. I DARE YOU!


It is oh-SO-cliched and oh-so-easy to hate on Mr. Bay, and though I have been a fan of Transformers since I was a kid AND happen to like this admittedly less-than-perfect movie, I would like all the HATERS and TROLLS out there to put their money where their mouths are and tell us fans:

1) How would YOU in all your unrecognised directorial brilliance have made TF2 had Mr. Spielberg come to YOU? and:

2) What would YOU have written that could possibly have appeased the:

a) KIDS to which Hasbro was aiming their new toyline at;

b) The slightly 'bigger kids' who grew up with Armada and Beast Wars;

c) Us 'biggest kids' with our nostalgia for all things 'G1-related' and;

d) Those movie-goers that were hoping for something a little more adult and edgy, like Batman Begins was?


Well COME ONE HATERS!!! What have you got in mind that wasn't realised on the big screen BUT could have pleased EVERYONE?!

One rule to your replies - you can't replace any actor. Megan Fox IS Mikaela, Shia LeBeouf IS Sam. You can't play switcheroo and have your favourite pin-up of the moment take Megan Fox's place, nor is Edward the vampire invited to assume Sam's character.

Fellow fans are welcome to reply too of course.

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Even though Spielberg DID go to Bay, that does not excuse the fact that he made a disappointing sequel. There's a lot of things that could have been changed, too many to list really, and Toy Story 3 appealed to nearly everyone, why couldn't they make this film do the same? I mean honestly which fanbase was Devastators nuts supposed to appeal too?!

And I didn't hate this film, but I can understand why a lot of people do.

My main thing I would change really, is too use The Fallen more in the film. He's in the frickin title for gods sake, but he's in their for less than 4 minutes, thats just poor.

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Ummm...even Michael Bay admits the movie was crap...so....

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Ummm...even Michael Bay admits the movie was crap...so.


In interviews after the film's release? Not when he was in the "editing booth" when it really mattered prior, to the final print 'being struck' for its release to; premiere/theaters! Why couldn't he have admitted that to himself before he put the friggin film out there even?

Michael Bay: i know this film is crap, so i'll release it anyways!

He didn't bother to fix the film and stop it from even being crap, he just put it out there instead? Right!

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Yeah, why not?

He had a deadline and all that money had already been invested so he may as well just release it and besides... it's TRANSFORMERS, that name is a safe bet anyway

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Wow. YOU sound more hate-filled than most of the people who are rationally expressing their dislike for this movie.



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lol awesome post bob!

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So basically, rather than having the faintest idea what you could do differently to make a film that would both be financially successful and one that you'd consider an artistic success, you still adopt an air of superiority and bitch, bitch, bitch. Gotcha.


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1. Would have told the story about Cybertron and it's demise. Minimal humans, especially annoying ones. The story would have been about finding the energon deposits on the planet. No lame racial stereotypes, no ridiculous orange skin. Would have actually made the robots fight each other in ways that exploit their vehicle forms. vehicle, robot, exchange blows, back to vehicle. no shaky camera work, not film every scene in sunrise/senset.

2. This movie should not have been made for todays kids. it was made for the kids of long ago. Transformers already has an audience. A solid one. You're defending the dampening of artistic integrity for profit????? so batman should wear pink, because its less scary to children? bad point, dude.

include characters from Armada and Beast Wars.

Your rule is lame. Being a loveblind butt-kiss is just as bad as being a trolling hater. Shia was a bad idea for this movie. He made it a comedy. Taking Shia out is crucial.
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really? Why did he absolutely need to be in this movie? Do you understand that the transformers were just secondary characters? This movie should have been called "Sam and the Transformers". Im glad you like him, but just because you like him does not mean HE NEEEEEEEEEEDS to be in the movie.

Edgy? how about we show how dangerous these robots are. One robot programmed to destroy. One robot programmed to protect. Show why these Decepticons are evil. Bloodshed. Remember the Battle for Zion in Matrix Revolutions? How cold, emotionless, and rough the machines ripped the humans? That. Should have been rated R.

Audiences grow, while franchises are afraid to grow along with them. Why? because it's always a new team taking on projects, instead of people who care about it.

How about having people who care work on the film, instead of those treating it like just another job and another means to maximize profit.

It's ok to like this movie, but liking it does not mean that Transformer fans were not robbed by a "watered-down story about robots, but focuses on humans, that has pee-pee jokes, and racial stereotypes, because thats what kids love"

Your outlook is the bane of movies.

Your post is like: "It's ok that Venom was screwed out of Spider-man 3. thats what the rich people who control the studio wants."

Do you even care at all? How old are you?

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Well i would start by having a plot.

"In a mad world, only the mad are sane."
-Akira Kurosawa

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"Well i would start by having a plot."

LOL!

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It is oh-SO-cliched and oh-so-easy to hate on Mr. Bay


Speaking of cliched...why are you assuming that everyone who didn't care for this movie "hates" all Bay movies? Why are you accusing those who were disappointed in the movie of being "HATERS" and "TROLLS"? And why are you making the logical error that a movie must please "EVERYONE"?

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First of all, I would create robots that look like robots. I am not saying they have to look like their original cartoon based forms, but something that resembles a robot. When I am sitting in a theater with an 8 year old child they should say something like "Dad! Optimus Prime looks SOOOOO COOL!" not "Dad, they look like a bunch of junk stacked up" as my 8 year old said to me.

Two. Take that shaky cam and stick it whe.......(edited for the kiddies). Movie-goers and paying to see giant robots kick each others butts....let them see it!

Three. Remove stupid potty humor....Giant robots don't piss on people, they don't have balls. It's just dumb.

Four. Megan Fox and Shia Labeouf die

Five. Don't treat your audience like idiots. A perfect example is the scene in the Smithsonian. How on Earth did you go from Washington DC to the desert by opening a door? Does the Smithsonian have unknown portals in the doorways that magically transport people to other places? It just shows there is no attention to detail.



Nuff said. Excelsior True Believers!

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1) I would have told Spielberg, "Hey! Wouldn't it be cool if we involved a lot of the combining transformers in so we can see a huge robot fight. And while we are at it, let's follow the story of Omicron and not some stupid Bionicle Toy. Would make it even cooler cause Omicron could bring back Megatron and we could give him a new form thus making a nod to the movie!"

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A) I already have giant robots so kids are attracted to it.
B) I would have brought in Hot Rod and made Devastator more powerful.
C) Well I would have gotten rid of the dogs humping cause that's just dumb. Got rid of Sam's mom eating the brownies. I would have showed little or no Shia Lebeouf. Prevented Optimus prime from kicking every ones butt before he dies because he could barely handle just Megatron in the first one. No Skids and Mudflap. Tired of these stereotypical robots. I mean, they might as well put in Aunt Jemimah the maple syrup truck.
D) Again, got rid of the whole college scene and no stupid Bionical Toy. And no cliche ending like where the key turns to dust but he's really had the key in his chest or whatever. So Cliche.

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