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Lets really think about what Oliva did at that boat party...

posted 14 years ago by PopcornLovesMovie
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We played chess dozens of times and he always beat me.
So I got interested in him.
One day the idea came up... of meeting to play face to face.
He invited me to a party where there would be important people.

In his house?

No.
Not in his house-- on a boat.

On a boat? Why?

That's what I wondered too.
Why on a boat?
Then I found out.
It had to be out at sea because at that party... things happened that would be illegal in any country.
You want to know what things?
Come on.
Dare to ask.
No, forget it.
At that party... things happened, and the things that happened made me go back more times.

Wait a minute.
Couldn't that guy
have organized all this?

No.

Why not? He's idle, eccentric, smart, rich. Why can't he be...

It can't be him because he's in here!

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Okay, so we know:

1. It's illegal in most countries.
2. It had to be done out at sea, on a boat.
3. It's addictive.
4. There are important people in there doing it.
5. It has to be something shocking that a smart person wouldn't figure out even after knowing 1, 2 and 4.

What possibilities could there be that meets all 5 criterias?

[–] Bob_Brooker 11 years ago

Strip Poker

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[–] schlomolipchitz 11 years ago

The age of consent in Spain is 13 I believe.

[–] sarastro7 10 years ago

I am really annoyed with this detail, because it doesn't make any sense. Why didn't the guy want to know, and why did the contemplation of it make him cry? Seems like it should be something obvious that we should be able to guess. But the only really obvious guess is drugs, and that seems like too small a thing to make such a big deal out of (unless these people were unusually sensitive). Almost anything sexual that a fairly normal woman (and we have no reason to believe that Oliva was otherwise) would engage in (orgies, BDSM, etc.) is legal. I think the other extreme possibilities put forward in this thread seem unlikely.

And this detail really irritates me; it makes the movie worse, and it doesn't have that much of a pay-off in the first place. The overall plot makes reasonable sense, but a number of details in the character interaction and development are sloppily and unsatisfactorily relayed. Just when it is revealed who the culprit is, it seems like there is some dialogue missing, or maybe a bad translation in the English subtitles.

I also find it very silly that most of the characters in several situations waste time on discussing personal business when they are supposed to be solving a puzzle that is threatening their lives. It's a shame, because the movie was very exciting up to a certain point. It definitely would have benefitted from being 10 or 20 minutes longer.

Oh, and then the tiny point that the movie gave no reason for Oliva to be there. Why did the bad guy want to kill *her*? He seemed to have been friendly with her, even sharing illegal secrets.

[–] Thrill_KillZ 10 years ago

My theory, which is purely just a possible theory from another much better film is the group Russian roulette that was in 13 Tzameti(also the much crappier American remake titled 13). Which is something that is really demented and very condemnable, BUT still has the possibility to be quite entertaining.

It's such an oddball thing to have someone say in a film. The second the credits started I came directly to this board knowing I couldn't be the only one fascinated by that bit.

[–] jamasian_man 10 years ago

I honestly think she could have been lying. She says she met Cuevos through chess, but he later reveals they met through email.

Maybe she just came up with that thing on the spot, just to get him to drop the subject.

[–] willow_wizard11 10 years ago

I imagined it being quite like that scene from Requiem For a Dream, but I'm not sure why she would've kept going back, unless she became addicted to drugs, or was being blackmailed.

[–] d-garutti 10 years ago

I really think that is pedophilia.

Not sure if anyone else sayd that here before, but I just finished the movie and that is what I think it was her 'secret'

[–] zupapazupap 8 years ago

I read in a particularly violent autobiography about fighters going out to sea for deathmatches, which could fit with a gambling aspect. Maybe she kept going back because she could win big money? Not really a cause for the boyfriend's envy though, but he was probably imagining a cannibal/necrophilia orgy or something.

* Hilbert wanted to kill her because she could have identified him as the real killer, tainting the fame earned by his discovery.