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This movie is BS, most Germans clearly supported Hitler and the war...

posted 9 years ago by al666940-3
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Otherwise Nazi Germany wouldn't have lasted as long as it did.

Just because a few Germans plotted against Hitler a few times is supposed to absolve the whole country and somehow paint it as a general uprising and rebellion against him and the Nazis?

BS!!!!

There's no such thing as a ruler without detractors. Even God had a third of his angels turning against him (if you are a Christian). By that logic Hitler had many less detractors than God, so by sheer percentages alone he was more accepted than God himself.

So just because Hitler had incompetent plotters (they failed, right?) doesn't get Germans off the hook of standing behind Hitler to the bitter end.

Want to make a more interesting (and honest) movie? Make one that delves into WHY most Germans supported Nazism (a "monster" by Hitler's own words, it's spelled out right there in Mein Kamp) to begin with...

[–] prometheus1816 8 years ago

You know, considering that most of the Nazi scientists including Wernher von Braun ended up in the United States and founded NASA, I think it's a little premature to say that Germany didn't last. Over 700 scientists and other doctors ended up emigrating to the West under Operation Paperclip. I know someone whose wife worked with von Braun after the war and he was certainly not a repentant Nazi. He just kept it closer to the vest.

Sometimes my ruminations are too confusing for someone not inside my head. -Anon

[–] larry8827 8 years ago

The film is a fairly accurate version of events. Back at the start of Hitlers power he never had much more support than about 1/3 of the country. In a democracy that can be enough. Once he turned Gernsny into a one party state and a dictatorship more people joined the Nazi party as the best means of survival/ progression. Even more just put their heads in the sand and looked the other way out of fear.
A lot of people would have been more than happy to see an end of Hitler but most would still see it as a dishonourable act of treason to kill the head of state during a war. Especially as they had taken an oath of loyalty to him. They would still feel it their patriotic duty to fight the war even if they didn't support the leadership of the country. People (like Fromm) would have been hedging their bets out of fear of their own life.