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Creative, funny, quirky... CANCEL IT!!


As an English fan of Reaper I am outraged. Why doesn't the general American public like seeing original concepts on their screens? This show could have been one of the greats, I'm sure the ratings were good and they probably would have been given a bigger budget. What a shame...

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As a member of the general American public, I can say that we have essentially no control over it. They still use outdated Nielsen family tech to figure out ratings, which I feel is completely inaccurate to the entire population. Doesn't matter what the ratings are anyway. The networks figured out that people will watch whatever crap they put on, so why would they pay actors when they can have nearly no overhead making yet another crap reality show? That's why only cable, and especially premium channels are more tuned into actual ratings and quality television. Not only do they need people to watch the shows in order to get sponsorship, but they need people to keep paying for their cable subscriptions. People unwilling or unable to afford these channels will generally plop down in front of whatever bile spews forth from their sets.

I think you'll see a change in this when almost all "TV" programs are pay-per-download as it's moving toward even now. NO ONE is going to pay to watch a reality show. There will be high quality demands.

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Seems like "It's Your Move", all over again.

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It's not the 'general American public' that doesn't like seeing original concepts on their screens... It's more like the degree bearing producers/directors/and such apparently do not like to keep great shows on TV for too long due to the attention span of viewers...or they think that they can come up with something 'even better'...which is something they are always looking for...and quite rediculous...

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Exactly, man. Ratings for Reaper were already good in retrospect. But they could've been twice as good and Dawn Ostroff would've still crucified it.

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Sam: But I thought we had good ratings
Devil: We did Sammy, but can't you see, there are forces here much more evil then me

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Lol! How True!

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If you guys like this, watch NBC's CHUCK.

It's almost the same premise. Guy with a dead-end job has his life changed by a big turn of events, and has to live his life juggling a secret life as a CIA agent and a guy who works for Geek Squad.

Basically, a Geek Squad agent gets all of the government's secrets downloaded into his brain, so now he's forced to become a spy.

There is:

Wit
Good Music
Realistic job-suckiness
Hilarious characters
Hot women

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No... having obvious satire about a popular retail outlets is about the only common thing between the two shows

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It's more like the degree bearing producers/directors/and such apparently do not like to keep great shows on TV for too long due to the attention span of viewers...or they think that they can come up with something 'even better'...which is something they are always looking for...and quite rediculous...
Pretty accurate. A few days back I got bored and started scouring the Network Television lineups of the 1990s. To my surprise, NBC's absolute domination of Thursday night television through pretty much the late 80s to the very very very early 00s was undercut by a lot of bad decisions.

They kept introducing new shows, they'd be *hits* and after a season or two (some even being shows that were in the top TEN of all Domestic television programming) they'd cancel it because they thought they'd be able to squeeze a few more million viewers in front of the TV.

Pretty much ever single year after 1995 saw increasing declines in viewership until all their mainstays at the time (Friends, Will & Grace, Just Shoot Me). Without any familiar programming for viewers to look forward to, NBC pretty much dropped off the face of the planet in its 2004-2005 season and has been pretty much in 4th place since.


I also believe that Les Moonves of CBS actually has signed a deal with the devil, bringing us the first wave of reality trash television (Survivor, Big Brother, The Amazing Race) as well as predictable, by-the-numbers crime procedurals (CSI, CSI: Miami, CSI: NY, Hawaii Five-0, NCIS, NCIS: Los Angeles, The Mentalist, Numb3rs, Criminal Minds) and lame, unfunny, absolutely predictable - "set up, punchline, queue laugh track" - comedies (Two and a Half Men, How I Met Your Mother, The Big Bang Theory, Mike & Molly, $#*! My Dad Says, The King of Queens, Yes Dear, Everybody Loves Raymond). Almost all seem to be popular by the unwashed masses, I just can't wait for their programming to crash and burn.

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Drifta, I can only tell you that in America, there are ACCOUNTANTS running the networks, and these idiots are ruining television the way they ruined Hollywood and all major sports. They are all managed by men who only think about making money, not good television. Forget that Reaper was highly enjoyed by its fans both in North America and around the world, forget that these fans truly loved the show, and don't even bother mentioning that a third season would've seen even more fans.....it's CRAP, DRIFTA, and I'm as outraged as you are, mate!

Please believe me - the American public has no real pull with these accountants. I know this because I have been involved in several SERIOUS campaigns to save many favorite shows that the accountants decided were costing too much for their money, and we're talking some amazing bonehead moves. For example, the CBS show "The Magnificent Seven" - very popular right out the gate, especially with the cowboy crowd, and there was also a very strong female crowd who enjoyed their looks and the stories told, and they easily got a second season. That new season, they moved the show to FRIDAY NIGHTS. Friday nights are a dead zone because that's high school football night all over the country, and NO ONE is home watching TV, especially cowboys! So, with a false audience number, they canceled it in mid-season and refused to show the last five episodes. First we petitioned CBS to get the show back; then to see if we could get at least the final eps shown - no good. Luckily a superstation bought it and showed the series in its entirety.

The last time I did that much protesting was over the WB cancelling "Angel: The Series". I sent cards, helped buy ads in Variety and TV Guide, and phoned the WB itself begging them to reconsider. Nope. Not even a remote apology. HOWEVER, myself and many others turned our backs on the WB and we believe our exodus from their channel line-up is what caused the WB to have to merge with UPN. At least we HOPE the loss of our viewership had a hand in their demise as a television station.

Sad to say, Drifta, but what has outraged you and me and everyone else in the world, will probably never even be considered by The Powers That Be. The fans mean nothing when it comes to serving the great god money.

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It would seem that americans simply refuse to continue anything that is in any way good or original.
Maybe they are afraid of raising the bar and making it harder for crap shows to do well. Firefly was a great show, witty and original. As was Reaper until they dropped it. Meanwhile, someone somewhere chose to make a 6th season of "Pimp my ride", and gave the thumbs up to "Americas next top model", "Miami Ink", "Worlds Deadliest catch" and the list goes on.
Simply put, if its not moron fodder it wont last. That says a lot about the american public.

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Shut the fvck up makbeth. Do you really think that the general American public has anything to do with tv shows being canceled? Men in business suits decide what we want. It's all about profit and keeping costs down.

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Being an English fan too, OP, I have no idea why it was cancelled , it got good ratings when it was on TV here, and everyone seemed to love it. Guess we'll never know what happens to Sam now

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I'm American, and I crave new, original programing. I love this show, and am so bummed it's gone! CW is trying to be something that Reaper didn't meet up with, it's a shame.

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Well they had to take off something to put on Vampire Diaries and God forbid it be Smallville. >>

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