TERRIBLE SHOW


I was in Universal Studios when I was approaced and asked to view a new sitcom for $10. I said sure and I had to sit and watch this trash. It wasn't funny at all and whoever picks up this show, please don't!

..at least I got $10 out of it.

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Hey it may not be funny in the US but it is over here so leave our comedy alone!! At least we don't have tacky unfunny crap like '3rd Rock From The Sun' and 'What I Like About You'!! I'd much rather spend my evenings watching 'Dead Ringers' and other thrue Brit comedy than watch American "sitcoms"!!

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If your going to put down american comedy don't use 3rd Rock as a example, it's a bloody good show.

Also if you where to mention a decent british comedy, why pick a poor one like Dead Ringers.

It is a common fact that the British have a far superior sense of humour, which is why Americans keep remaking our shows (even the bad ones).

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While i try my best never to side with an american, he is right, this show is *beep* awful, its like children wrote it.

And 3rd rock from the sun is *beep* ACE! one of the VERY few american comedies that i actually find funny.

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While i try my best never to side with an american, he is right, this show is *beep* awful, its like children wrote it.


It's essentially the same exact script, almost word-for-word, that was used for the first British episode. So you are saying that the first UK episode seemed to be written by children!


While i try my best never to side with an american


Simon, it must be rough being a complete imbecile!


LOL!



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Ooi, Third Rock is brilliant.

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Ok, 3rd Rock may be a lowest common denominator.. but The IT Crowd is simply put.. comedy for thick people.

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Only thick people put down shows that are too high for their intelligence

Go and watch something more for you like days of our lives

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Um, dude-that comment meant the show was beneath them, not over their head.

You may want to consider taking your own advice. Don't feel too bad about it though, dumb people are a necessary evil to make average people feel better about themselves.

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'Hey it may not be funny in the US but it is over here so leave our comedy alone!! At least we don't have tacky unfunny crap like '3rd Rock From The Sun' and 'What I Like About You'!! I'd much rather spend my evenings watching 'Dead Ringers' and other thrue Brit comedy than watch American "sitcoms"!! '


No reason to be a dick about U.S. shows.
I am American and I LOVE the IT Crowd.
Just because that one lamer didn't like it doesn't mean that BAM all of us don't.
Third rock from the sun is brilliant, so go shove your mouth with tea and biscuits.

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I think the OP meant the U.S. pilot for the show, not the UK version. Personally, this Yank thought the UK edition was feckin' brilliant.

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the UK version is awesome. the US version is terrible. same with life on mars. why do we try and remake good shows, can't we think of anything original??

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It aspires to be appalling-its the worst thing I have ever seen. The laugh track just compounds it

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Im from America and this show makes me laugh very very hard. I love you Brits!

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You do realise aebum32 is talking about the US VERSION OF THE SHOW, don't you? Knowing how to read doesn't equate to comprehension, I guess.

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Hey it may not be funny in the US but it is over here so leave our comedy alone!! At least we don't have tacky unfunny crap like '3rd Rock From The Sun' and 'What I Like About You'!! I'd much rather spend my evenings watching 'Dead Ringers' and other thrue Brit comedy than watch American "sitcoms"!!


I don't think this is the British version, this is the American version he is talking about.

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i gotta say that emzapuzz_rox basically made themselves look retarded lmao.

first, i dont think you realize that you are defending the american version of the IT crowd, not the amazing british IT crowd. He's not saying that the british one sucked, hes saying this one sucked. This crapily made american version.

Also, you are retarded for saying 3rd rock from the sun isnt a good show. Its brilliant in so many ways. Its funny to all ages really. I dont even know of
"what i like about you" so thats a weird one to choose too.

Also, someone has mentioned that Dead ringers is not a good choice to represent british tv either.

So you are an example of a british version of the type of american everyone hates.

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I don't know what they'd do differently in the American(ized) version of 'the IT Crowd', but the original season of the British show is fantastic, imho. Richard Ayoade (who's great) reprising his role of Moss gave me some hope that it would retain the flavor of the original series. I was similarly trepidacious about the American "Office", which, fortunately, came into its own after awkwardly failing in emulating the superb British original. Helps when you have a couple of standout cast members--Steve Carrell and Rainn Wilson.

I'd have to ask--have you seen the original?

If you don't like this type of humor, fine...I'm eagerly awaiting this one.

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3rd Rock from the Sun is a crap show, ver unfunny, thats my opinion. I'll stick with that thank you!

Dead Ringers is hilarious to Brits, may not be funny to you but it is to me.

That is my opinion.

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There is no doubt that there is a lot of tallent in dead ringers, the impressions are good, but the material is poor.

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It is a common fact that the British have a far superior sense of humour, which is why Americans keep remaking our shows (even the bad ones).


I have made a lot of posts on these boards giving praise to British sitcoms and making it clear how sick I am of the trash produced in the US but I take some umbrage at this. Americans have just as good a sense of humor as the British, it's just that most of our sitcoms are trash. This is because the very small handful of men and women in charge of what gets produced have zero faith in their viewers, not because our appreciation of humor is inferior to yours.

When the idiots in charge do decide to remake a British show it usually fails. This is not because Americans can't appreciate it but because they distort it so much that the final product doesn't remotely resemble the original successful formula. Again not the public in general's fault but the handful of short-sighted money hungry executives that insist on these changes.

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British comedy is far better. I.T. Crowd, Mitchell and Webb, the Office, it is all much funnier than American garbage like 'Friends' and stuff.

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Spoken like a true moron who likes to jump on the "hate US" bandwagon.

Yes, some fantastic british comedy has been done over the years, but never forget that you've put out a shed-load of crap too. "My Family", "Two pints of lager and a packet of crips" anyone? Even just between Britain and America, the good:bad ratio probably works out about equal.

"American garbage like 'Friends' and stuff."

Yeah, you really seem to have a great knowledge about "stuff".

What about the good shows (classics and new) like Seinfeld, All in The Family, Frasier, MASH, Arrested Development, Weeds, 30 Rock, Curb your Enthusiasm, Simpsons, Futurama, South Park, Chapelle's show, My name is Earl to name but a few.

Sure, it's my opinion but as someone not living in the states I find those mentioned above to be truly quality shows and as good as most british comedies.

I guess though you could argue that Britain produces brilliant comedy while America produces the best drama series.

Main point is, I'm so goddamn tired of people like you coming here and spewing out crap and hatred, provoking Americans. The US vs. UK debate is getting very old.

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Excellent post.

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Dead Ringers is hilarious to Brits, may not be funny to you but it is to me.

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dunno about funny sometimes but should be on BBC1 not BBC2....certainly isn't hilarious...

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While I definitely prefer a lot of UK shows (I can't believe they're redoing the IT Crowd in the US...I guess they're so thrilled about the Office that they forgot all about the Coupling fiasco) and I do like quite a few of the shows listed here:

"What about the good shows (classics and new) like Seinfeld, All in The Family, Frasier, MASH, Arrested Development, Weeds, 30 Rock, Curb your Enthusiasm, Simpsons, Futurama, South Park, Chapelle's show, My name is Earl to name but a few."

But just to let you know...All in the Family is actually a US version of a British show called "Til Death Us Do Part."

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All In The Family isn't a good example, as it is a remake of a british television show.

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"What about the good shows (classics and new) like Seinfeld, All in The Family, Frasier, MASH, Arrested Development, Weeds, 30 Rock, Curb your Enthusiasm, Simpsons, Futurama, South Park, Chapelle's show, My name is Earl to name but a few."

You really are insane, you know that, don't you? Out of all those listed, only Seinfeld, MASH, and a few of the Frasier episodes were truly original, good television.

I hate to say it, but the rest of your selection indicates that you are included in an America that has sunken to the depths of depravity and cannot recognize the difference between "good" and "bad" on any level, whether in quality or in morality.

This is part of what has gone wrong in America: Americans in general cannot distinguish between originality and banality. (Most don't even know what the latter word means...)

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Going to disagree with you there, JohnBoy. Arrested development and Curb your enthusiasm were amazing shows!

English comedy recently does appear to have taken an upturn (forgetting, of course, 2 pints of lager and a packet of crisps!). Which is perhaps why we're getting this argument more frequently. But for a long time when I was younger, American comedy was the only thing worth watching. I think that may be because BBC3 and Channel 4 are commissing more cult shows

I think English comedy is in the main part, cleverer that American comedy, perhaps for the reason that Johnboy states, that US producers are aiming for mass appeal wheras BBC3 + Channel 4 are commissioning comedy written for a more select audience.

I've not seen the US version of IT crowd, but I do think they've made a passable job transferring 'The Office' to US so hopefully they can do the same here

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I think the IT Crowd (UK version) is hilarious! It helps if you are a techie I guess. The American Office is alright, but Ricky's version is much better. I heard that Joel McHale of The Soup will be in the US version of IT Crowd...though I think he's brilliant, I can't see him in this, but I could be proved wrong. I hope Hollywood doesn't bugger this show up!

BTW, anyone follow Nathan Barley???



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So completely right!

Yes, it does help if you are techie--I'm a computer pro of 28 years experience--but the show also appeals to non-techies. My family absolutely loves the show. Of course it helps when a techie is available to explain any of the obscure gags which wouldn't make much sense otherwise to those not in the know.

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Funny how the dumbest post here was the Brit claiming South Park as not good television, it holds up (season 1-6) with any britcom.

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Okay. I'll grant maybe Arrested Development had some good episodes. I probably haven't seen enough...just lost interest.

I think most new English shows are adapting a bit of an American format while retaining some of their uniquely English humor and outlook. Some of the earlier English comedy was bland and slow, with a few stand-out exceptions like Monty Python. Now they've sped things up a bit, which is more to an American audience's liking.

That's partially what made The IT Crowd great. The rest are the unique plots and style.

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Firstly, I would like point out that apparently you don't appear to have much of a knowledge of *beep* British comedies, considering the whole, oh, two you gave to say we have a similar ratio of *beep* to good as America.

However, I do agree that both Britain produces some utter crap - namely, "Peep Show", "Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps", "The Good Life", "The Office", "Peter Kay's Phoenix Nights", "Birds of a Feather", "Little Britain", "The Catherine Tate Show" and many more.

But we do come up with gold more than often;

"Blackadder", "Father Ted", "Spaced", "Black Books", "The IT Crowd", "Dad's Army", "Yes Minister", "The New Statesman", "The Brittas Empire", "Red Dwarf", "It Ain't Half Hot Mum", "Some Mother's Do Have 'Em", "Bottom", "The League of Gentlemen", "The Thin Blue Line", "Mr. Bean", "The Young Ones", "Are You Being Served?", "'Allo! 'Allo!", "Keeping Up Appearances", "Monty Python's Flying Circus", "The World of Lee Evans", and more.

I agree that America comes up with great shows too, plus over there there is the benefit of longer series', whereas ours barely even scratch six most of the time. MASH, Fraiser, Scrubs, Futurama, South Park, Family Guy and American Dad (can they be counted if they are animated? ... nevermind) are awesome, but I cannot agree with some American programs, including The Simpsons which I have come to dislike for a long while.

I think the only way that this 'version' of 'The IT Crowd' will work is if they keep the actors, but saying that I am sure someone said that companies don't think that programs will be sucessful if the British accent is used, so there we go.

All I know though is that the American version of 'The Office' was awful. But then again, so was the original.

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I don't think the British have a better sense of humour, I just think their approach to comedy is better. I mean they tend to weed out a lot of the rubbish shows before they even get piloted making for better shows to come through, whereas the american approach is to throw it against a wall and see what sticks,i.e. if We make 25 comedies this year one of thems bound to get good ratings, but then because they produce 24 duffers it makes it look like they don't know comedy.

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Well put. Couldn't agree more.

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whoh how can you lump peep show, the office, & phoenix nights with that other crap.
I know its subjective & pointless arguing about but at least those shows are original a great example of what modern brittish comedy is.
They are far more important than the IT crowd, the it crowd is not even in the same league.

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Those british shows are brilliant, but Peep Show is pretty good. However, Family Guy is a terribly written show I do not know why they put back on the air. I guess the world audience's mind is just numbed from other terrible comedies from both sides of the pond.

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"Spoken like a true moron who likes to jump on the "hate US" bandwagon. Main point is, I'm so @#$% tired of people like you coming here and spewing out crap and hatred, provoking Americans. The US vs. UK debate is getting very old."


Well said, Bliska. The rest of the world is jumping on the "hate U.S." bandwagon, so I say we don't intervene the next time Europe falls into conflict. Europe is becoming the next Islamic empire anyway, so let 'em rot with the other towel-heads.

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It is posts like this that typifies all the stereotypes of Americans being ignorant *beep* Fortunately, I know a few Americans and know that many of them are much less ignorant than you seem to be. So please return to your trailer and guzzle your watery beers instead of showing us examples of your glowing wit and intelligence.

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masterjedi. i assume you may be in your basement fantasizing about princess laeia so i won't keep you long. It is all good to state your opinion, but to come on here and be a racist bigot is uncalled for. And why are you bringing political issues to a discussion about tv shows. By the way, Europe probably won't become an islamic empire because of their strict immigration laws. So have fun with your economical regression, I am going to sit pretty up here north of the border.

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I love the IT Crowd and if the US aren't liking it then obviously replacing the characters with American actors was a big mistake. The proper version with Katherine Parkinson, Chris O'Dowd as well as Richard Ayoade is brilliant. I'm not going to bad mouth Friends though because it is one of my favourites...however loads of crap US comedies come to mind. Mad About You has already been mentioned but Seinfeld was pure c**p and this is the poorest US comedy EVER.
If American TV networks just played our comedies without touching it things like this wouldn't happen.

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Seinfeld pure crap?

Okay.

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As an American, I have to volubly disagree. Americans--speaking of the majority--are blooming idiots. The REASON the Brits have a superior sense of humor, for the most part, is because they have a richer culture and superior education in the classics.

Americans (again, speaking of the average American) seem to seek the violent and slapstick, low-brow humor that appeals to the anti-intellectual.

There are plenty of Americans that are intelligent viewers, but they are in the vast minority, thus the television producers do not direct their media towards intelligence, but rather towards simple, moronic humor...like just about every show on American television in the past 20 years.

There are a few standout, unique programs, like Firefly, Cheers, Seinfeld, The Norm Show, and The Invisible Man (2000). Monk and Psych are a couple of the recent shows that are pretty good.

On the other hand, we pour out tons of garbage constantly, like Third Rock from the Sun, American Idol, et al.

Face it, we Americans really are idiots--it's not going to be long before we realize it, I hope.

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I knew an American who just didn't get sarcasm - every time I said something sarcastic she took it literally and I then had to explain what I meant. I think people not really getting sarcasm is more common in the US than the UK and since quite a lot of British comedy involves sarcasm that might be why they feel they need to remake them?

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It's also well worth noting that the reason certain British comedies are exported as American remakes is, shows like "IT Crowd" and "The Office" already have quite healthy followings in the United States. There isn't a flaw in the North American sense of humor, and of course one sense of humor is by no means superior to the next. But again -- if you must buy into the fallacy that British humor is the superior benchmark for evolved wit -- British sitcoms are remade and repackaged for the U.S. because people in the United States already enjoy these comedies, already purchase DVD box sets of shows we've never even seen airing on television here.

In the United States, unfortunately, envelope-pushing television is relegated to cable and satellite channels and is aired at night -- safe from the virginal eyes of children, no doubt -- and enjoys much smaller audiences than the likes of network television. I haven't seen anyone name a single American sitcom yet that hasn't come from ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX. (These stations also put a great deal of money and effort toward remaking British game shows and reality television, the contents of which are deeply disturbing, lowest-common-denominator horse****, if I may be allowed just one jab.)

Regardless of where it comes from, a truly great comedy series is inimitable, and remakes are just that: second-rate impostors of the original article. There is no way to recapture the X-factor of a truly close-knit, communicative ensemble, no matter how many times you show the new cast a video and urge them to "do it this way." Sometimes spin-offs and remakes do grow legs and develop an identity of their own, but it takes time to deviate from the 'winning' formula and try something new.

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Stop trying to pull this US v. UK crap that every other board on this website is descending to. Have you seen the American remake? No? Then shut the hell up.

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Strangely no, considering it hasn't been out in this country. I am not entirely sure it has even been made.

Has it?

Oh and if that is just directed at American remakes of decent (note; DECENT therefore that doesn't include The Office) British comedies - the remake of Red Dwarf.

There was only a pilot. Nothing more, because it was so *beep* (same jokes, etc).

American comedy is considered to be "stupider" than that over here mainly because they have more violent comedy (there are some exceptions though).


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Erm. The U.S.'s pilot of "The Office" was, in fact, the lowest-rated sitcom pilot in American history. I remember watching it and thinking, my God, this is a total nightmare.

The trouble was, a genuinely talented ensemble had been cast into perfect analogues of the original British ensemble. Rather than stretching their comedic legs, each actor was doing this strange imitation of another character. It really wasn't until later when, it seemed, each member of the ensemble really took control of his character and destiny, that the show -- seemingly suddenly! -- took off and became an altogether different creature.

I love the original "Office", very very much, but at this point the American show succeeds because it isn't "The Office" anymore; it broke away from the mother country and has its own identity. What? Hey! Isn't that a metaphor for the last 230 years? Oh, I'm just teasing. But I think it's important to intimate that "The Office" has been in this peculiar grey area between 'remake' and 'original' for quite awhile.

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"Erm. The U.S.'s pilot of "The Office" was, in fact, the lowest-rated sitcom pilot in American history. I remember watching it and thinking, my God, this is a total nightmare.
The trouble was, a genuinely talented ensemble had been cast into perfect analogues of the original British ensemble. Rather than stretching their comedic legs, each actor was doing this strange imitation of another character. It really wasn't until later when, it seemed, each member of the ensemble really took control of his character and destiny, that the show -- seemingly suddenly! -- took off and became an altogether different creature. "

Yes, that is very similar to what I thought when I saw the American version for the first time! I watched the first couple shows, cringed when they gave less-than-compelling renditions of verbatim lines from the UK version, and, as I was disappointed and disgusted, stopped watching. It wasn't until a few years later that I gave it another try and was pleasantly surprised about how well it had evolved once the actors had settled into the roles. Amazing turnaround!

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9 out of 10 remakes are a bad idea, be that films, TV, game license etc.

Sadly that one success (in this case The Office) can lead to anyone thinking they can "break America".

This has certainly been the case in the UK too, with Jack Dee's cover version of Curb Your Enthusiasm (Lead Balloon)

The best US/UK shows tend to be distinct, with a flavour almost impossible to replicate (Seinfeld, Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, Cheers etc) but still be universal enough to appreciate.

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The original is funny. I haven't seen the American version but I don't think it'll be nearly as good.

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The Brit version is great.

I don't see why our studios (I'm from the US) keep doing this. The pilot of Red Dwarf (u.s. version) was terrible also.

Why can't they just show the British version over here? If the U.S. companies want to get involved why not just pay for more episodes?

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Good lord all of you just calm down. Who cares! It is just television. There has been a lot of terrible remakes of a lot of things, and there has has been a lot *beep* things that have come out a lot of many various *beep* countries. In the end, who gives a damn.

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what's everyone fighting about?

I haven't even seen the American version of this show (why oh why? I don't care if The Office was successful), but as it stands, the British version is funnier.

And I can say that as an American.
The thing a lot of English people have to realize is that when you say "the average american",
you are, admittedly, talking about a huge part of Americans, but there's another HUGE part of Americans that AREN'T dumb and DO have a sense a humor. Just remember that and be fair.. and not dumb.

In other words, the British version of The IT Crowd is definitely the best of the two, again, without even having watched the US version.
I'm not a fan of the idea of a remake of a British show (too many "of's")..

What we need is another massively great show like Arrested Development, which is without a doubt one of the best TV shows anywhere in the world.

but yeah.
British version = better.
nothing to argue there.

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The best of the American stuff beats out the best of our British stuff. Case in point: Arrested Development vs... not sure, Alan Partridge?

Plus, you got to take into account how many more episodes the Americans produce too - I'm now at least as much of a fan of the American Office as of the British one. Plus, they make something like 3 times more per season, and they are consistently good.

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Bad analogy.

What you want is Arrested Development Vs Absolute Power.

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Inevitably any discussion of British Comedy in the US tends to turn into one of those Yanks Vs. Brits threads which just annoy everyone. I'm a Brit, living in the UK with American friends (living in US and UK) and British friends (living in US and UK) so comedy gets endlessly discussed. I don't think there is a British sense of humour as such. British people like to laugh, at almost everything given the chance. "You have no sense of humour" is probably the worst insult you could level at someone from the UK, but that's not an exclusively British thing , and most Americans I've met have a similar inclination. I think we like satire, ironic humour and often with a surreal element, but again these are not our exclusive domain. The only thing in these threads which really depresses me is when people use "British Humour" and "Monty Python" in the same sentence. I loved Python, I still like some of it, especially the Films, but that was 30 years ago. Of course it still feeds the shows of today, but lets move on.

There are good American comedy series, "Arrested Development" is a case in point. I have a list of top ten films, it includes a couple of comedies, and they're both American. Good lord - Christopher Guest is American !!!!!

I think American shows are produced in a different way with different objectives. pressure to have long seasons, large writing teams and advertising considerations tends to homogenise everything. UK shows tend to have small writing teams and (mostly) are commissioned by the BBC where advertising revenue is not a consideration, so they can be more experimental. They often also trialled on radio first as a proving ground. I'd also add that UK comedy shows can be both variable between series and even episodes, possibly due to the way they are written, so some series have only a couple of really great episodes

When UK shows are re-done for an American audience it is initially depressing I guess, as we feel that our culture should not require "translation", and , after all we watch (and enjoy) plenty of US shows in their original format. However at the end of the day , its American viewers who are being insulted. The Stations are like mothers who feel they have to mash up their kids food before they'll eat it. I'm not sure this is true though. When was the last UK show shown in it's UK format on mainstream US TV ? Maybe it's never happened ? Is the accent such an issue ? There are so many accents when I travel in the US, often from people who have a non-english first language, I'm surprised it's such an issue. America must digest new accents by the day .


Unfortunately there is no over the counter supply of recent UK comedy available in the US on DVD to seed any potential demand. "The Office" seems like it was a one off, the UK show appearing on DVD quite quickly. The DVD regional thing counts against you in this respect. Most people in the UK and Europe have DVD players which will play all regions, born out of the need in the early days when R1 had everything first. The moment a US show appears on DVD I can watch it at home. Now my understanding is that most US DVD players will only play R1 ? Quite possibly most Americans are unaware even that there is an issue. This means that all the recent UK comedy which you could buy across the internet , probably won't work. If I go to the US amazon.com , I don't really see much comedy from the past 5 years that I enjoy ("Garth Marenghi", "Mighty Boosh","Black Books"). Might have changed but last time I looked this was true. Search Amazon.com for "Bill Bailey" ?

IT crowd in the UK was a reasonably funny series , I especially like Richard Ayoade who has been great in Boosh , man to man with Dean learner and Garth Marenghi. It's credentials are good as Graham Linehan has a great track record with Black Books, Big Train , fast Show and Father Ted

If when re-done in the US as a US comedy it doesn't work, well I'm not surprised

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I have to agree, I hate it when shows are made in both the U.S. and the UK. conversations always break down to our X is better than your X or we're better than you.

I think both countries have had some good shows. I love IT Crowd, Allo Allo, Green Wing, Brainiac, the New Doctor Who, Torchwood, Robin Hood, etc. I also love Eureka, Arrested Development, Greek, Scrubs, and both Stargates.

As for UK shows not running in original format The New Doctor Who, Torchwood, and Robin Hood all run in original format. (cut down a bit for lengthy U.S. commercials.) So Don't count us out yet. Love or hate for U.S. or British comedies is going to vary person to person. If one person from the U.S. says they hate a British show there is probably another who loves it.

However that could just be my opinion too. BTW I don't like either version of the Office and I am also a Yank, American, whatever.

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A most excellent post jonathon, I think it showcases how interacting with overseas friends on a regular basis is illuminating on these issues. As for the DVD/region issue, most American viewers likely to be interested in the quality imports from Britain are aware of their player's limits and have bought region 0 players. As well as shopping at the UK amazon.com.

I'd also like to give a big up to Richard Ayoade, he is what drew me to the IT Crowd after Darkplace and Boosh. I know this won't be a popular prediction, but if the American version of the IT Crowd is given a fair shot (no constantly rotating schedule, sticking VERY closely to the original, Linehan's involvement) he will win over a large portion of the less enlightened public and be picking up an Emmy in just under a year. Not that he needs it to be validated, everyone who matters knows he's brilliant.

Ooh, a lesson in not changing history from Mr. "I'm my own grandpa!"

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i followed ayoade to this show as well... you must must must see "ad/bc: a rock opera" if you haven't already. he only has a small-ish role, but it is fabulous. matt "sanchez" berry is in it as well.

as far as "which is better: original or remake?" original wins about 99% of the time, whether you're talking uk vs. us tv shows, movies, books, whatever. most remakes are disappointments, regardless where they're from.

what do y'all think of the german version?

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Ahh thanks, I'd heard of it but didn't realize they were in it. I'll certainly check it out now.

I haven't seen or heard of the German version of the IT Crowd.

Ooh, a lesson in not changing history from Mr. "I'm my own grandpa!"

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The shame is that brilliant American television programs often get ignored or get cut before they really get going. If you want to see originality, check out the old HBO program Mr. Show. HBO did not give this sketch show the support it deserved, but they did make 4 fantastic seasons. The first two seasons were a little hit or miss, but at least when they missed they were trying something different.

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