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Things I've learned from this movie.


Just saw this movie, and learned quite a lot.

I was impressed by the cameoes of Gandalf/Obi Wan Kenobi and the Terminator!

The things I learned:

1: Guests on a starship will have unrestricted access to the whole ship.

2: If you're the captain of a starship, which is under internal attack - the wisest course of action is to abandon your role as captain, and go all rambo on the enemy.

3: If bullets won't work, a knife or your fists surely will.

4. Firing thousands of machinegun rounds in confined spaces with hard surfaces will not result in any ricochettes whatsoever.

5: Replicators are built out of lego blocks.

Anybody has anything else to add?

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6. Ascended being will eventually help you if they themselves are in danger.

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- Going from the top of the mountain to the sea will take less than a day if you're injured.

- When there's explosions, only cameras will feel it, not the people.

- When the Ori find a weapon against them, it will be unguarded.

- When a Replicater is hit by anything it will fall to pieces.

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Rember the Wall Of Fire? that was Adria. it was protected, shes just slow on the draw.

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More importantly:

- When having established a bridgehead into a new galaxy the Ori will leave it completely unguarded despite it being the only way to send reeinforcements and your enemies tried to blow it up before. More importantly you won't even bother with guarding your side of the gate because it would otherwise hinder intruders from strolling into the very heart of your empire.

The Allies were like the Wehrmacht didn't know about this stratagem or the Ardennes offensive would have taken place in Dover...

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- It was never explicity laid out how far "the top of them mountain" was from "the sea," so it could very well have been within walking-distance. If anything, it stands to reason that a signifigant body of water was somewhere nearby, because the plateau where the Ori/Alteran village ("Ortis Mallum?") was located didn't look like it had any lakes, waterfalls, etc, and people with sense often build their cities near a water supply.
A better issue to raise might have been: given that *millions* of years have passed between the Alterans' departure and SG-1's arrival at the ruins, how is it that the caverns (which were apparently at least a little geologically active) were still intact at all? Millions of years is plenty of time for wind & water erosion and other geological activity to utterly wreck the place.

- "Unguarded?" It was on a table just a few feet from the 'Big Ori Wall of Flame,' in the heart of their capital city (full of Priors and the faithful), on their capital world, in a whole galaxy of their devout worshippers. And they know of only one enemy incursion-- three of whome have been captured and locked up, one was presumed dead, and the rest were being tracked by 4 motherships while they ran for their lives. How much more security did they likely think they needed?

- Someone else mentioned the Supergates being unguarded on either side. The Ori were apparently the *sole,* dominating power in their home galaxy-- so had no reason to guard their end-- and had dominated virtually every engagement with Milky Way forces. So if you asked them "why wasn't there a mothership guarding the Milky Way supergate?" they'd likely ask "why would we need one there? Who's going to be stupid enough to attack it?" I mean, the attempt to dial the supergate out before the invasion began (in Camelot): failed. The battle to stop the first wave of the invasion: Ori won. The plan to dial in to the supergate from Pegasus (in the Pegasus Project): while they demonstrated the capability to get a ship on-scene *very* quickly to investigate any suspicious activity, also proved that the plan couldn't have been stopped by a mothership anyway, because as long as the pre-jump gate was cloaked, it would all go off before any intervention could be effective.
All told, unless something really unusual happened (such as one of their motherships going incommunicado, as in The Shroud) signalling that they should anticipate some credible threat, guarding the Milky Way supergate 24/7 likely seemed unnecessary (or pointless) when they could have had that ship out converting heathens instead.

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You protect your supply lines. Period. More importantly such a bridgehead should be a staging area for their fleets so someone should be around at some point of time.

That none was there on either side of the gate is plain stupid as is building only huge battleships you cannot spare for guard duty instead of adding some smaller vessels to the mix.

Guess what the US had German troops guard their facilities in Germany during the Iraq war. Why? Germany is the USA's ally. There should be no reason for that. Wrong. It is military common sense to have a minimum of security for everything of value. Given the resources necessary to build the supergate having it guarded so nothing can mess with it (several attempts of which the Ori did witness)is a logical thing to do. Otherwise the Terrans can have a lucky shot, destroy the supergate and then all the Milkyway can take years to figure out how to deal with those stranded ships on their side of the gate without those getting help.

You simply don't do that.

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* If you film a mountain from far away people will think its a real movie.

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Hey..... ;-)

It's O'Neill with two L...

Haven't seen it yet but I have ordered it and it is on its way to me... yeah... :-D

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*If Cameron Mitchell says "sh*t" & "a$$h*le" people will think it's a real movie.

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Obviously, the 'evil' army will always wear armor that will not even stop a play dart to the crotch and will be cumbersome to wear, topped with a helmet that constricts vision.

In order to find an artifact in a huge forest, it is optimum to send a team of 6 people to dig randomly and hope for the best.

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Replicator use javascript,,,I kid you not 2nd half 12:07min

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BWHAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Legend! Nice Spot, I had to pause to read it :-) Quite funny how the code has things like: h = window.height; and window.open(...); and he says something about the code being so complex it's going to take hours to figure out! :-D

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2nd half? someone downloaded the movie!

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Remember that the IOA reprogrammed the little buggers.. its possible they had completely redo their systems so that they would be easier to program.

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Actually, this isn't that far off. Not that evil comes poorly equipt to a fight, but that the Tau'ri armor has evolved over thousands of years due to countless conflicts throughout history.

On the contrary, the enemies they come up against are regularly not used to organized oposition.

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*If Cameron Mitchell says "sh*t" & "a$$h*le" people will think it's a real movie.


that worked for me actually... it gave it a sort of realism... I was actually hoping for a little more colorful language.

Things I've Learned...

... they fired their camera operators and lighting engineers from the series and hired people off the street for the movie (really... in the SGC it was so dark and the camera was shaky)

Without music, life would be a mistake.

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... they fired their camera operators and lighting engineers from the series and hired people off the street for the movie (really... in the SGC it was so dark and the camera was shaky)


Wow so i'm not the only one who noticed this! They had so many steady cam shots and whomever was operating it just couldn't keep it still. I somehow really doubt this was done on purpose, because it was while Landry and Mitchell were talking about the IOA guy. The camera had no reason to be moving, and yet it was shaking. Really threw off the whole scene.

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I noticed this too. I didn't think there was a change of camera men, I just remembered thinking "wow, this camera is shaking a lot. I wonder why they didn't reshoot that scene."

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Yeah, I doubt they intended for it to be shakey. The new BSG did, but it didn't seem to be here. It wasn't just one scene though, it was many throughout the film that it happened. I wonder if they were just pressured for time and weren't able to work on it as if it were an episode.

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I learned that:

This is just a movie with the main purpose of entertainment.

I you look for "realism" in a science fiction movie, maybe the best for you would be to rent "The Adventures of Sir Isaac Newton" or the documentary: "Physics and I: A world of movement".

Give me a break.

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So sci-fi completely ignores elements such as ricochets and other weird and funny things? Give us a break, we're not necessarily looking for realism, but perhaps more of common sense.

Regardless, I do see your point.

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quote "You protect your supply lines. Period. More importantly such a bridgehead should be a staging area for their fleets so someone should be around at some point of time."

However I writing SciFi you have to remember that you are talking about NON humans... yet your reaction was basically 'how would a human react?'

think about it...

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Things I learnt from this movie:

1. Adria is hot in more ways than one.
2. The Doci likes to wear a toilet seat around his neck (well that's what I think it looks like anyway).
3. The Replicators have been watching too many Terminator movies.
4. The Replicators have been watching too many Star Trek episodes with the Borg in.
5. The Replicators have been watching too many episodes of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica (think human-form Cylons)
6. People from the IOA are really stupid.
7. The Replicators all seem to die just when you run out of bullets.
8. Even ascended beings can have b!tch fights!

If Plan A doesn't work, you should have a Plan B, not Plan A recycled

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glad i'm not the only one who thought of the borg. this movie kept reminding me of Star Trek: First Contact, and seeing someone taking over by the replicators just hit the nail in me. but then again there are many episodes where SG's bases/ships get taking over by an enemy.

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1: Guests on a starship will have unrestricted access to the whole ship.
Dimwit was a IOA spook. Should have been locked into a cell the moment they left earth.


2: If you're the captain of a starship, which is under internal attack - the wisest course of action is to abandon your role as captain, and go all rambo on the enemy.

Nutjob(he does seem crazy for it doesn't he?) is a military field commander, not a trained ship captian. He's best suited to duking it out.

3: If bullets won't work, a knife or your fists surely will.
Ever seen Star Trek? Borg... they can adapt to weapons fire.. but ol Worf and Data still kick their backsides in a physical battle.

4. Firing thousands of machinegun rounds in confined spaces with hard surfaces will not result in any ricochettes whatsoever.
Read up on Frangible Rounds, they break down on impact with hard ungiving surfaces. US Air Marshals are armed with these to prevent pentrating the planes hull. since the replicators can be broken easy with high speed projectiles they don't fall into "Ungiving" catagory. Although they did look like typical FMJ rounds.

5: Replicators are built out of lego blocks.
Yep... always have been.

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I totally got the impression it was Replicators: The Cameron Mitchell Chronicles

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On #2, it may not have been the wisest thing to do, but it was certainly in character. Let's face it. Cam is not known for his wisdom.

What have I learned? With enough determination you can cross a snow covered jagged mountain range in a day.

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That is definitely where, I think, the LotR movies failed the hardest: in portraying how freaking long the journey was for the characters. Looking back, it definitely does feel like they trekked through those mountains uber quickly in the movie.
Oh well. I haven't seen this flick yet, so I haven't learned jack *beep*

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I made a joke to my roomate that Teal'c was heading to Mordor during that sceen.

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Did he slap you for interupting the intense moment of the film?

Personally;
-You can sneak through a heavily guarded Ori stronghold without being stopped if you simply wear a silver robe and don't show your face.
-Using replicators to invade enemy ships, which when taken over could simply be purged of all their mechanical captors via one press of a button, is a bad idea because replicators are bad.
-When its a movie, break out the zombies!
-As a new captain, to install confidence in a crew before going on a death-defying crusade of epic proportions, pretend to be trigger happy and naive.
-No matter what, when someone says 'You are being targeted from space', never look up, its uncool.


If Little Red Riding Hood shows up with a bazooka an a bad attitude I expect you to chin the bitch

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6. Replicators are programmed in a scripting language, of which GUI and billing functions are an important part.

7. Despite extensive and repeated searches, the Ori can overlook a large stone slab lying on the ground that covers a passageway.

8. Two humans and one Jaffa can move said stone slab without special equipment.

9. Stargate TV finales and movies have really corny end scenes.

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It wasn't necessary for the Ori to leave the supergate guarded because in their believe the supergate could not be dialed from the milky way galaxy. Also, conventional weapons fire wasn't going to work on the supergate, thats why they were going to use four mark 9 nuclear warheads to blow it up at the start of Ark of Truth

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10. Teal'c's consolation of Tomin, while incredibly cheezy, makes for good Sunday School discussion fodder

11. It has been written, and so it shall be forevermore: There will be replicators. Even after the replicators have been defeated, there will be replicators.

12. Teal'c is awesome. 'Nuff said.

13. Joel Goldsmith is awesome. The music made the movie, man.

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~Anne Hathaway

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