cruelty against cj7


Hi,

i am surprised nobody mentioned the cruelty against cj7 as it made me loose any sympathy for the boy and his father. They torture CJ7 by:

- hitting him with bare hands and large objects
- suffocating him in a plastic bag and throwing him in the trash
- putting him in a dog fight where he sustains injuries
- choking and yelling at him
- etc....

CJ7 is clearly sentient, shows emotions and feels pain. The whole "its a toy" excuse didn't quite work for me. Also the "realization" of the boy that C7J didn't "promise" him anything in the first place seems awkward, because even if C7J did promise him all these things and didn't deliver it wouldn't justify the cruelty. Intelligent toy, cute animal or alien from space - nothing deserves to be treated like this. I am sure the Filmmakers didn't intend this but I began to hate the boy and his father. Did anybody feel the same way?

regards,

jojodyne

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Well Stephen Chow himself have said that CJ7's design was based on a pekinese dog he had as a child.. And we all know how they treat dogs in China..

So, why aren't we scared? Because we have guns? You could be right.

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I can't believe how many foolish and ignorant users there are in this site.
Cruelty against "CJ7"? WTF?

First of all CJ7 is a CGI (Computer Generated Imagery) not a real animal (or alien for that matter). These are shocking news for some people, I know.
Being CJ7 a CGI character why it couldn't be treated like most cartoon characters. CJ7 doesn't suffer nearly as much "abuse" as let's say Tom from "Tom & Jerry".
Second, when the father "abuses" from CJ7 he thinks he is a freaking TOY! Got it? a TOY! Of course in the movie he is more than a toy and that's why that scene is quite hilarious.
Third, not only CJ7 is "abused" even Dicky is thrown away about 100 meters by the bigger boy. Don't you remember? Why don't you whine and moan at that but instead you are whining and moaning at the abuse over a CGI character?
Finally, even those scenes are shot in a Tongue-in-cheek way. NOBODY is really harmed. The only time when somebody gets really hurt is when Dicky's father suffers an accident and CJ7 "revives" him.

I really find some posts in this thread quite stupid and ludicrous.

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You clearly did not get the intention of the original post. I never implied that "somebody" got harmed nor did I imply that cartoon violence is not ok in movies. I personally have nothing against dark, cartoonish, over-the-top, realistic, painful, unrealistic, bloody or other forms violence in movies.

My point lies elsewhere. I purely argue from the intended feelings the filmmakers wanted to convey to their audience. And in this respect I claim that the movie failed in what it set out to do. It clearly wanted to engage the audience in the unfolding events in particular from the boys and fathers perspective. This usually is achieved in such family films by depicting the main protagonists in sympathetic way. For example through the boy being bullied by others or the fathers hardship. This sympathy and understanding (in addition to the cultural background )also mitigates some of the more controversial behavior of the characers (e.g. father hitting the boy). I just felt that the filmmakers UNINTENDENTLY destroyed this bond through their "cruel" behaviour towards CJ7, a "toy" that clearly showed emotions, felt pain and even fled to activly avoid cruelty. I would have expected the characters (boy/father) to recognize this.

For me this thread is purely about a misjudgement by the filmmakers on how the audience (or just me) responds to certain events in the movie. Some users speculate that this is due to cultural differences - mybe so. But I simply asked if others felt the same way.... and yes I enjoy some of the early Tom & Jerry cartoons.


First of all CJ7 is a CGI (Computer Generated Imagery) not a real animal (or alien for that matter). These are shocking news for some people, I know.
Being CJ7 a CGI character why it couldn't be treated like most cartoon characters. CJ7 doesn't suffer nearly as much "abuse" as let's say Tom from "Tom & Jerry".

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Remember this movies has a really exaggerated, stylized, Looney Tunes-esque tone to it so at least give it a break in the humanitarian and animal right department. Do you want to say at the end "No CGI animals were harmed in the making of this film, nor do we promote the harming of computer animals"?

Oh, I forgot, the animal rights movement didn't start in Asia, nor is It even popularized nor celebrated. Just blame it on the Asians if you want someone to blame then.

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