Obviously there´s a million things wrong in this huge stinker, but which part did you find the dumbest? For me it was these two things:
The supercomputer that talks like some huge nerd and like it was built in someone´s basement in the 1920´s.
The professor who can´t seem to decide whether his supercomputer understands written or spoken out signals. Why are you talking out loud everything you type you dumbass!
The dumbest parts:
1) The cell phone bring thrown on a train, and actually landing & staying there.
Like it would never bounce off the top of a fast moving train.
2) A 'spy plane' carrying a deadly missile. THEN flying around half a across the globe from some place in the USA to Afghanistan to Philadelphia back to Washington in short amount of time, without one filling up for fuel, recharging
up for batteries, or re-energizing.
I dont know about you folks, but I would love to get that energy source for my cars. Screw $2, $3, or $4.00 a gallon of gas.
3) Another dumb 'spy plane' carrying a deadly missile note. Hasnt these stupid characters in the movie ever heard of the "Air Force" or the "Navy"? I believe we in America have some of those things, right?? Geez! Not, in one instance they ever decide to send fighters to shoot the plane or bomb down or use Navy resources to do it either.
4) Taking an old computer like the WOPPER, which was just sitting in some storage area without upgrades or maintenance to still be working. Then to get it to technically work and talk with the new RIPLEY computer without any special modifications. That is like trying to get your current cable ready television to work with the old coil rabbit ears antenna.
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Although "WOPR" may or may not have had upgrades, it obviously had maintenance, the old Russian was using it for credit card fraud.
The dumbest parts:
1) The cell phone bring thrown on a train, and actually landing & staying there.
Like it would never bounce off the top of a fast moving train.
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phone gets trapped in the vent flange on the top of the train... its a lucky & inplausible landing but they did however for a second focus on the actual landing within the venting area.
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2) A 'spy plane' carrying a deadly missile. THEN flying around half a across the globe from some place in the USA to Afghanistan to Philadelphia back to Washington in short amount of time, without one filling up for fuel, recharging
up for batteries, or re-energizing.
I dont know about you folks, but I would love to get that energy source for my cars. Screw $2, $3, or $4.00 a gallon of gas.
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Its called solar enery ...most military spyplane technology relies on it. those planes can runs for very long time: days, weeks, evens months... without any changes or maintenance. You can purchase radio kit planes that can fly that long. asfor carrying of a thermal nucular bomb, I'll have to get back to You on that one ...
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3) Another dumb 'spy plane' carrying a deadly missile note. Hasnt these stupid characters in the movie ever heard of the "Air Force" or the "Navy"? I believe we in America have some of those things, right?? Geez! Not, in one instance they ever decide to send fighters to shoot the plane or bomb down or use Navy resources to do it either.
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Yes, We do have these but the cost is too high for actual human intervention nowadays until it is absolutely necessary ...today's wars are fought more efficiently & with less Americans casualties. Its more a of point-to-point warfare and with no actual visualization of the enemy. Its supposedly more humane to fight the enemy this way.
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4) Taking an old computer like the WOPPER, which was just sitting in some storage area without upgrades or maintenance to still be working. Then to get it to technically work and talk with the new RIPLEY computer without any special modifications. That is like trying to get your current cable ready television to work with the old coil rabbit ears antenna.
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I, personally have some very old computers (circa 1988) that work very well with my newer computers & without any special modifications except for the maybe software and scripts which enables them to communicate. They don't do very much tasking but it was an experiment I had tried some time ago just to link up my old stuff with my new stuff. Its not everyone's cup of tea but it was fun to just to accomplish it. Its by no means practical but it can be done.
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The opening of the film. Party chicks in Afghanistan attending a weapon trading dance party lol
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How about Dr. Falken says he almost started WW3?! It was David who started the program.
shareI really think facebook should offer the "3-wrong-passwords-then-show-a-video"-option.
Do you listen facebook? There is money to be made here!
(stupid movie!)
I really think facebook should offer the "3-wrong-passwords-then-show-a-video"-option.
Do you listen facebook? There is money to be made here!
(stupid movie!)
Stupidest part?
Was I wrong or was Ripley and the gang spying on Will in his bedroom with his webcam AFTER he had unplugged the network-cable? How stupid is that!
Right after the power outage he attempts to back into the Arab guy's bank account and it says it has been seized by the "US Governement". I mean they couldn't even spell check government. Worst movie ever.
shareThis movie sucked so much. I'm sure anyone who knows even a little bit about technology and computers was raging throughout this trash.
shareIn today's as well as in the year 2008, webcams did not require a physical connection in order to operate ...have You ever heard of wireless technology ...it only needed electricity. All You really need for a wireless webcam is a physical network address for it to operate (view) on a network. They were a bit pricey back in 2008 but they were available AND Will was definately not from a poor family. And besides by the time You've reached the "Hacker" stage You don't really worry about how to pay for it.
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That a MQ-1 Predator UAV can fly non-stop from Afganistan to Washington, DC, & in less than an hour!
That a MQ-1 Predator UAV can carry a nuclear bomb, let alone a 'smart-bomb' version of a 'nuke' (which don't not exist).
Making a mobile fone antenna 'booster' using a Pringles tube & a pen? lol
When the 2 leading characters are locked into a cell near the end of the movie a white Apple Mac laptop magically appears from off-screen. (or did I miss something here?)
And like 99.9% of movies based on computers, NOBODY uses a mouse!!
Just a few of the very many goofs in this very poor copy of the original.
Thanks, I forgot the name of that spyplane ...its been a while. HOWEVER...
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Making a mobile fone antenna 'booster' using a Pringles tube & a pen? lol
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PROOF! of existence & of possibility, I first researched the coffee can microwave antenna as i know that the design exists. It was a popular antenna design when when microwaves were first discovered and were investigated for its possible usage for communications... LMAO... now everything is microwaves. I studied for the ARRL's GENERAL EXAM for radio operator's license and this was on there. I was very interested in radio communication techniques back then, You would be amazed at what served as antenne back then. Here's a few links to get You started.
http://www.google.com/search?q=antenna%2C+coffee+can&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_antenna#History
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,1641185,00.asp
http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/antennas/mycoffeecan.html
...OF SPECIAL INTEREST & PROOF! of its actual usage ...This guy actually improved on the design.
http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html
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I saw it on tv today and I couldn't get pass a lot of the stuff at the beginning of the movie. The Government knows about the kid and the neighbor but they first come to only get the old man. Had the kid & his mother been part of a terrorist cell why would she still be at home to be arrested and why (after Sept 11th) would he be trying to fly after his computer & phone kept getting calls from the game?? The scene at the airport when he's running to catch the plane and manages to get on his flight that is being allowed to take off? Being a terrorist- would he be near an airport?? Then he gets to Canada and knows he's been watched every second by our Government who thinks this kid will lead them to others that are part of this supposed terrorist cell??
Meanwhile 2 seconds after arriving in maple leaf territory the kid has time to worry about some man hacking info to steal money online?
In the beginning the reasons they all were suspected by the government was a good plot. Too bad the movie was bad beyond reason.
Sheldon:"Was the starfish wearing boxer shorts? Because you might have been watching Nickelodeon".
Hi there,
it's not my favourite movie but I think it gets way more hate than it deserves. It even answers many of the questions people have with it - if only you pay attention to the little details.
Maybe I can defend it a little bit:
> The Government knows about the kid and the
> neighbor but they first come to only get
> the old man.
From the RIPLEY-peoples' point of view, "the kid" may take them to some higher-ups in terrorism. They watch him for quite some time and also pseudo-chase him (scene in the airport) to find out who he runs to.
This is like the scene in the beginning: They didn't nuke the people who won the three million right afterwards. They waited until weapons were bought and they could annihilate the entire terrorism cell.
As for the kid: In some strange and sad way it worked. Professor Falken is the bigger risk for the system - and he was killed.
The old man is the one who had an enormous amount of money on his bank account and they quickly had his familiy tagged. So he was seen as more dangerous and quickly removed.
> Had the kid & his mother been part of a terrorist
> cell why would she still be at home to be arrested
From the RIPLEY-people-point of view it may have been pure luck that she was unable to flee due to her sickness. At that point in the movie they don't question RIPLEY's decision.
> and why (after Sept 11th) would he be
> trying to fly after his computer &
> phone kept getting calls from the game??
From the RIPLEY-people-point of view he may have been trying to escape (similar to the Paris-flight in the first movie). If he's in a larger plan, he will try to push it forward - so it's even more importing to see which other people are involved.
From his point of view: The Ripley-stuff may have been a bit stressful so Canada sounded like a good idea to get away from this for a moment. He already planned with the expedition and paid for it. There's still be time to deal with the computer acting up after coming back.
Also note that there is a girl involved and he may not be thinking with his brains at that time.
> The scene at the airport when he's
> running to catch the plane and manages
> to get on his flight that is being
> allowed to take off?
From the RIPLEY-people-point of view: The flight is not stopped as it may lead them to his contacts. Getting those higher-ups is more important than just stopping the kid. His friend is an innocent non-involved but taking and grilling him may result in some more names to follow up in the meantime.
> Being a terrorist- would he be near an airport??
At that point he doesn't yet know that he is tagged and watched. Using the chess club is a good excuse to get to his contact in Canada. A lot of people pass through airports each day and to unidentified criminals it is a quick way to travel.
> Then he gets to Canada and knows he's been watched
> every second by our Government who thinks this
> kid will lead them to others that are part
> of this supposed terrorist cell??
I don't quite see the dumbness in that..
> Meanwhile 2 seconds after arriving
> in maple leaf territory the kid has
> time to worry about some man
> hacking info to steal money online?
I take it you're talking about the episode at the Internet Café.
He didn't target the Internet-Café-man because he is crunching credit card numbers. He targeted him because the Café is a means to get online and to find out about his mother.
Having Soft- and Hardware to crack into RIPLEY was an added bonus.
> In the beginning the reasons they all
> were suspected by the government was
> a good plot.
To be honest: That's a point I have some trouble with. The first movie has the "playful hacker" who gets into trouble because of his obsession with computers and games.
The second movie has a more "innocent" hero who only gets dragged into the story because of his stupid friend increasing the bet - and because of a history he doesn't know. This seems like it wants to scare the viewer "everyone could be tagged - maybe even you. You may not know about the connections it needs, but RIPLEY will know"
Also don't forget that at some point the people starting to lose control, had different opinions on what RIPLEY does...
> Too bad the movie was bad beyond reason.
I like to think of it as a rollercoaster.
It has some very bad moments:
* the USA attacking a canadian power plant without any repercussions
* a lot of the Hollywood-Hacking (heck - the original seems less dated than DeadCode. Choosing a cancelled MMORPG even underlines that)
* The RIPLEY-people using his friend to get his cell-phone-number (although already having it after the game).
* The five-minute-chase-scene in Canada.
* The joke at the end.
and yet it has some rather good moments as well:
* The continuation of Falken's story was well-done. His decision not to tell them is even slightly tear-jerking.
* To Non-Geeks, this Hollywood-hacking can be enjoyable
* Some of the technical stuff is incredibly well thought-out (did you notive the random seed for the simulation being displayed); sometimes the makers have given amazing attention to details. Example: The Princles-cantenna may seem corny but it exists and works. It makes sense that the kid has read about it and tried it. I'm rather surprised that Falken didn't.
* WOPR has a cameo, Joshua lives on. That *is* kinda epic.
I fully agree that the original movie is better. DeadCode cannot quite decide whether it wants to remake it (there's a ton of similarities) or rather continue it (also good points). It sometimes feels like there was a very good foundation but then some people decided to make it more hollywood and so it turned out much less good.
From what I read before watching, I was expecting a catastrophical flick, not even enjoyably bad. From what I've seen in the movie, it's much better than many people give it credit.
Regards,
TCC