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Not a satisfying flick, plain bland and boring to say the least


I bought this film on DVD a few days ago because IGN touted it out as the best anime of 2007. Now, I'm not a fan of what people describe as 'anime' - I thought Ghost in the Shell was barely above average, I thought Spirited Away was incredibly overrated but there are some animation movies from Japan that have managed to make an impression on me. Like Whisper of the Heart, which has remained as my most favourite movie of all time since I first experienced its greatness.

I wasn't really expecting much from Paprika because I knew it was going to suck to matter how hard I tried to like it. 'Anime' these days is all about reenacting old cliches and archetypes in an even worse manner than anything, and I knew this film was just going to do that all over again. But I did have a bit of faith that somehow, by some miracle, it might just turn my preemptive judgments false.

Oh, how mistaken I was!

Paprika is exactly what I expected it to be. Pure Japanese fluff that praises itself to be high-art but does nothing artistic in its stale attempts whatsoever. To everyone defending this movie to be a piece of art: please learn the difference between actual art and colourful drawings, and this is more of the latter. Everything drawn by hand doesn't classify as art. Hardly, in fact. Art is something that serves a deeper purpose than its superficial self shows. One could argue that I have yet to discover that 'deeper purpose' of this film, but I doubt I'd ever find it. It's just what it is - meaningless entertainment.

Shallow characters, predictable save-the-word-from-evil sort-of storyline, art-style and animation were barely above average, there's no proper plot, no structure, no focus, it just drags on and on with nothing in its sight and then ends without any real climax. Yes, I understand this is supposed to be a 'surreal' film, but I wonder if the director even knows what a surreal film is. The first and foremost rule of a surreal (or semi-surreal film, for that matter) is that it should never try and explain itself, and Paprika just tries too hard there to properly work.

I would be cool with it if it were just mindless entertainment - I enjoy that as well. But Paprika doesn't want to be that either. It doesn't know where to go or what to be so it takes desperate jabs in-between and fails.

There's also zero focus within the story. Is this the story about Atsuko, who's trying to find the missing DC Minis? Is this the story about the detective, who's trying to find out about his past? Is this the story about Tokita, who's constantly trying to find himself? One movie needs one story, not ten. If this was a movie about Atsuko, she needs to be in this movie at all times - or if she's not seen, we need to know the scene is somehow connected to her.

Same with any other character, because by throwing so many stories at us at once, you're literally screaming "We don't know how to make the story strong! So, we'll just add more sub-plots and subplots to those sub-plots to add intricate depth to the story." And the truth is, it doesn't bring any depth at all. If anything, it makes me dislike this film more and more.

At the end of the day, I'd say Paprika is a film below average. It tries too hard to be like Miyazaki, to bring the mystique of his films into this, but in the end, it just feels like a cheap rip-off.

5/10

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For future reference, if you want your criticisms of anime to be taken serisously, don't bring your lack of knowledge and limited reference points to the table. This critique reads like someone saying a David Lynch film is trying too hard to be Stephen Spielberg because there was a scene with a shark. Hayao Miyazaki and Satoshi Kon couldn't be much different in terms of style, themes, intent, etc... Miyazaki is incredibly mainstream, and your opinions are reminiscent of someone who is largely ignorant of all the different anime that exists and thinks everything is either Princess Mononoke or Naruto. While it's perfectly reasonable to see a couple of animes, not enjoy them, and decide not to make an effort with the genre anymore, it also means your opinion is largely worthless to anyone else, as it's ill informed and clearly grasping for reference points.
That being said, your mindset seems to largely cling to rules and structure. Even with surreal films (surreal as an adjective, not a genre) you want hard limits placed on the purpose and use of surreality, which strikes me as absurd. I hope you see the irony in that. You also seem to want a traditionally structured narrative which follows a single characters growth over the course of a story, whereas Kon explores themes of the blurred line between fantasy and reality, as he has with many of his films, and weaves in the experiences of many characters to do this. In case you're still wondering, the films is centered on Atsuko, as she exists as herself and as Paprika, the fantasies/desires that others project onto her.
Once again, it's perfectly reasonable to cling to traditional structures like this, but they aren't an objective ideal, and nothing about this film should make anyone think it's fluff, cheap, poorly animated, poorly thought out, or any of the other invective you throw at it.

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I know how these japs write screenplay, they write it than mix all the pages together. its messed up yo.

I just like the prety pictures ;) and see karoshi jump of buildings.

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Sometimes it is easier to say so and so sucks than to say it is just not for you.

Well at least I think you learned what kind of movies you should stay away from.

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What do you want, me to feel sorry for you? I would but you're not worth it. I don't feel anything for people who make up their minds before seeing a movie.


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I agree with every single word you wrote.
But I rated it a 3, because I had two additional annoyance factors, the 200 beats/minute (or so it seemed) screeching soundtrack, and the constant nonsense squeaks-gasps that keep emanating from Paprika's mouth. The expectation Japanese culture has about how women should behave and talk drives me absolutely nuts. Every time I hear one of the 'gaspy' squeaks in that high pitched voice, I just want to throw something at the screen. I've yet to travel to Japan, I expect some day I'll make it, when my budget allows it. I can only hope that women in Japan do not use that screechy voice and constant gasps.
I've liked a great many Japanese films in my life, and my favourite film of all time is in fact a Japanese film, but this was just useless to me.

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TBH with this movie I was pretty impressed by the visuals but not so much the plot. My mind did wander at certain parts of the movie. However I think it did it's job and conveyed the dream world in a very "realistic way." It was like actually watching dreams rather than an animated film trying to convey dreams. I also have a feeling that due to the complexity of symbolism it is a film that requires multiple viewings to be truly appreciated. I rarely rewatch films at more than two or three times but I think I will watch this film again.

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I agree, this movie isn't very good. The storyline is nonsensical. The film as a whole is superficial and pretentious. The characters are shallow. The humor about the fat guy feels so uncreative and cliche that it hurts. This film is not remarkable as a series of creative images or innovative fantasy cinema either, everything about it is mediocre or below-par.

At the end of the day, I'd say Paprika is a film below average. It tries too hard to be like Miyazaki, to bring the mystique of his films into this, but in the end, it just feels like a cheap rip-off.

5/10

5/10 IS average, unless your rating distribution is skewed....

It gets a 4/10 from me.



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I think if you're trying to hang it all on plot then it probably is a little overrated, to be sure. I think the brilliance of the movie is in the power of the visual, and on that front it's phenomenal.

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This is one of my favorite films of its decade. Not only is it beautiful to watch, but it deals with the kind of philosophical issues of technology that science fiction often does, but not always this well. And, it's moving, in some of the backstories, as with the relationship between Chiba and Tokita, as well as that of the detective.

One of the few films that should go to 11.

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