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Angelina Jolie and the screaming


When I start analysing a film while watching it for the first time I generally stop being immersed in the film experience, and the magic has gone.

During the scene when Angelina Jolie's character hears the news of her husband's death and she starts crying and screaming, I remember how I found the screaming annoying and I wished she would stop. Maybe that was the desired effect. Who knows? However, at that point I emotionally disengaged from the movie and the character, from the hurt and pain she must have felt.

While the scene progressed I began thinking, 'Hmm, why am I thinking about Jolie's performance and the choices the director made in filming it this way and not becoming upset by the terrible horror of this woman's experience'. Michael Winterbottom is a bit of a heavyweight director, and I'm not about to say he can't cut the mustard or he should have shot that scene differently. Ah, bugger it, maybe I am.

'Interesting,' I thought, whilst turning down the volume on Ms Jolie, 'how would I do it? What would work better?' I imagined the camera staying outside the bedroom with all those other people, hearing the muffled screaming coming through the closed door, whilst the camera pans from face to face, and they all look exactly how you imagine. No-one looking anyone else in the eye, no-one saying anything, no-one moving. I think that would work quite good. But, I'm no Michael Winterbottom, haha. No, I think the reason the scene is shot the way it is, is this is the BIG scene for the star of the film. There's no way Ms. Jolie would allow her 'Oscar' (™) moment to slip away and we can all only guess whether there was a clause in her contract or not, etc, etc and so on.

As you may have guessed, while I think Angelina Jolie is a very good actress I'm not necessarily convinved that she's up there with Meryl Streep or Cate Blancette in the Oscar (™) stakes, although I am aware she won one for Girl, Interrupted, in which she did some notable screaming. After all she is the same Angelina Jolie that appeared in movies such as Cyborg 2 (forgiven due to being very early in career..) and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. Yes, it can get pretty bad, eh? There is another steaming turd of a movie worth mentioning for it's immemorable entertainment value, Angelina's lousy accent and her amazing ability to play the mother of an actor roughly the same age as herself. Yes you guessed it folks, Alexander. Need say no more, except Rosario Dawson, ahem...

Which, in closing, leads me to the other important debate regarding this movie - what was with the lousy French accent? I didn't reaslise she was French until well into the movie, and I learned to speak French at school! Mon Dieu!

This comment was posted for my fun and your entertainment so there's no need to get all righteously outraged and indignant now. Is there? :)

Oh, and from here on this is my serious point that you can get as righteously outraged and indignant as you want. If you ingrates can stand the pain of reading subtitles and you're curious to see how an actor portraying the emotion and horror of just finding out the person you love has been killed, then watch the sterling, powerful performance of Dutch actor Clarice von Houten in the excellent Paul Verhoeven film 'Zwartboek' aka Black Book. Now, THAT is acting.

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Jolie was so focused on assembling her French/Dutch/etc. accent - something that never came together - that everything else became secondary & suffered for it . . .

I also muted the never ending screams. So over-acted.

The Jolie wail came off as 'bad acting student 101' instead of 'A-list actor effecting real pain & emotion.'

It's unfortunate.



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I thought that scene was brilliant myself, it was almost painful to see how deeply she got into her role... it was if she herself had lost someone, and those screams were to me very genuine and heart-breaking.

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Absolutely - couldn't agree more! I think that as soon as the audience becomes aware of the "acting" - the fouth wall is broken and one can no longer be emersed in the film. And yes - the alternate way of shooting the screaming scene (focusing only on other people's faces) could have been very powerful. It also would have helped to keep the audience immersed in the moment, perhaps keeping the shot as one long continuous frame. We, as the audience, might therefore feel as if we were even in the room, listening to what could (should?) have been Mariane's private moment.

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Frankly, the screaming did draw me out of the film for a moment. But not to ponder Ms. Jolie's acting chops (which I believe to be excellent). What did come to mind was this. At that moment in the film, we are presented with the iconic figure of a woman mourning the loss of her loved one - be it husband, child, parent, whatever - in tragic circumstances. If you notice, we are not shown Mrs. Pearl's face at this moment. We see her from the side and back, the classic image of a woman - any woman - shrieking out in agony at the senseless loss of someone she deeply loves.

I think that we are shown this image, instead of her face or the faces of the other individuals who are listening from another room, because the director intended for this image not to just represent Mrs. Pearl crying out in anguish - it was every Pakistani or Palestinian or Israeli mother whose daughter or son was just killed by a suicide bomber, every Rwandan wife who saw her husband slain before her eyes, every American woman whose husband, or son, or daughter didn't come home from the World Trade Center on 9/11. We have all seen this image hundreds of times in newsreel footage - the same shape, the same posture, the same cries.

The point being made, at least to me, was that although we are being told a particular story here, the reason it is being told at all is not to rehash a story we had already seen over and over in film and in print, but to bring home the fact that this is happening to EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE.

I did have to step out of this particularly story at that particular moment to process this information, but I think in the long run it was worthwhile.

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I agree with the OP. The reason for the screaming and shrieking and wailing, though, is obvious: she was trying to win another Oscar. Too bad her (over)acting, and her terrible fake accent in this film (not to mention the wig and contacts and was she really wearing dark foundation on her face? lol), were not up to par here.

Plus Mariane herself IRL is an annoying charcter, IMO. Just because your husband was brutally murdered doen't automatically make him a hero (it could be argued that he was there for his own professional glory rather than for the noble reasons given in this film - a journalist "searching for the truth" or some such nonsense...) You could use the word "martyr" to refer to him, perhaps, but not "hero" automatically. He knowingly put his life in danger while he had a baby on the way (he kept asking if what he was doing was safe, so he knew it was probably not safe or why ask even once?) Is that heroic? Is it? Or is it selfish and foolish and risky?

Even if Mariane Pearl's husband WERE a genuine hero - that does not make HER a hero by marriage. That is not how heroism works. These professional widows (there were few who popped up following 9/11 too) who so enjoy the limelight and attention and who capitalize on the death of a loved one give me the creeps.

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AJ was terrific in the movie, especially the crying scene.

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