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HELLO, PATRIOTISH AND AND CHILDISH MOVIE

posted 17 years ago by hentai_one
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Hey!

I'm not an native english speaker, so i may have some serious mistakes..

I just got a chance to see this movie a couple of hours ago, and really thought/think it was VERY childish. This movie, in my opionion, is directed to simple minded audience who like this kinda 100% predictable happy ending movie; though the concept of this happiness or the idea and how it was performed gravely suckded!

For example,

The part where Hayden read (his dyslexia). And of course, THEY HAD TO SHOW HOW THE GIRL READ.. i mean, we already knew that? or did movie write think most of the audience think it was a some kinda school for invalid people? jeez.. this was really silly and 100% for simple minded people, again.

Now, the part where the homeless woman made her speech after church. - it was 100% illogical scene, in reality people just gon't give about about homeless and they don't feel any kinda compassion for them, so why would you make such a fake scene where people show their SAD FACES :(:(:( really bad bad from the writer.

this movie is just some silly american farm crap that have copied almost every-emotion-part from other movies and performed these ideas surplussly and unrealistically..

[–] porfle 17 years ago

I wasn't that impressed by the movie as a whole either, but what did you find overly "patriotish" about it?

I also don't understand the term "american farm crap." Does this mean there shouldn't be stories about rural America, where the farms are?

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[–] hadmatter 17 years ago

I suspect "American Farm Crap" refers to the "Little-House-On-The-Prairie" mold from which this has been stamped, that sort of generic rural-family-values pabulum that exists only to fill an entertainment void for rural-family-values people who are terrified by stories that take place in the real world (or that involve any kind of imagination or fantasy, because imagination and fantasy were both invented by the devil, to distract you from worshipping Jebus.)

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[–] porfle 17 years ago

So, is "American farm crap" bad because it doesn't take place in the "real world", or because it doesn't involve enough imagination or fantasy?

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[–] hadmatter 17 years ago

It's bad because it holds itself to be morally superior to the real world, and BORING because it lacks imagination and fantasy.

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[–] porfle 17 years ago

I consider rural Americans and their way of life to be a part of the real world. I agree that the movie was boring, but I'm not sure how fantasy could've helped. Although the way some of the morally deficient characters suddenly changed into good people at the end, along with some of the other plot developments, was rather fantastic in itself.

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[–] hadmatter 17 years ago

ACTUAL rural Americans and their way of life are definitely a part of the real world. That's where I grew up. But rural American farm life as it is portrayed in films and television programs that equate farming with religion and use the setup to make all rural Americans seem like players in a parable is NOT how I remember real life.

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[–] porfle 17 years ago

The story does take place in farm country, and it is about religion--nothing wrong with either of those things, of course--but I don't think it equates farming with religion. The setting does lend itself to a certain kind of storytelling, which I have no problem with when it's done well, and this story is something of a parable, which is to be expected. I guess the viewer can judge how closely this sort of thing relates to the real world as they perceive it, but I don't think WELCOME TO PARADISE is trying to be all that starkly realistic. In fact, compared to other "American farm crap" films like PLACES IN THE HEART or THE RIVER, it is pretty much a fantasy.

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[–] Wuchak (8116) 5 months ago

Although the way some of the morally deficient characters suddenly changed into good people at the end... was rather fantastic in itself.

It isn't just a tale concerning the challenges of a female pastor, but also a coming-of-age story concerning her son, as well as a tale of redemption for believers in general who've fallen into one pit or another, whether legalism, charlatanism, homelessness or what have you.

The main "morally deficient" character you speak of -- the car salesman who wanted to be a TV evangelist and was rivalrous toward the new female pastor -- had a change of heart through the process of witnessing Debbie's faith & perseverance after the facility burned down. Is that fantastical or do these kinds of things happen in real life? (It's a rhetorical question).

Then there's the interesting commentary on the practical realities of ministry: It costs money to have a church facility and pay the perpetual bills, which means the ministry depends on generous people who have money in order to exist. If those givers are offended and leave, how will the bills get paid? You'll have to set-up shop in a barn or what have you.

The point is that stories like this "take place in the real world," which was contended by the poster hadmatter merely because the movie focuses on believers in a small town assembly (the horror, the horror).

It's a drama that only cost $500,000 (in 2006), so you can't expect blockbuster production values nor the over-the-top thrills of, say, "Spider-Man." But, for those interested, it's honest, warmhearted and even amusing, despite its obvious shortcomings (like dubious acting by no-name peripherals).

[–] lottapaws 11 years ago

I am sorry that you and other posters on this thread have not experience the love and compassion that exists in "American farm crap" , America. I live in that part of the country where neighbors help neighbors, where people help those who can't help themselves, where at a four-way stop, all four cars keep waving to the others to "go ahead" first. Rural? By New York or Hollywood standards, maybe. But we have skyscrapers, fine arts, etc. Stories like this are what we live. We'll be praying for y'all just as we pray for our families and loved ones. God bless!