Gosling as a Southern boy and Hopkins as an old Irishman. What was the point of that? Especially since each of them kept going In&Out of the accents. Totally kept me out of the movie. Am I the only one who noticed them?
shareI think they were just speaking in their natural voices. If their accents were "going in and out" I think that was just your perception of them. I didn't hear anything other than their natural voices.
shareHopkins was definitely doing some kind of Irish accent. Not sure why.
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Well I'm no linguistics expert, but he is from Wales...perhaps it was his Welsh accent, and it just sounded Irish to you?
shareYeah i know he's Welsh and i know how he sounds when he talks normally. He was definitely putting on an Irish accent. The Irish and welsh accents sound nothing alike.
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Im from ireland and that is definetly NOT an irish accent, its either scottish or welch...
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I wouldn't dream of commenting on Ryan Gosling's accent as I'm not an American. However, a Welsh accent to me is Rob Bryden, Tom Jones, Ruth Madoc etc. AH sounds more Irish than Welsh.
shareHe was definitely doing a Scots accent! I guess the character was scottish
shareNope, not a Scottish accent. I've lived in Scotland for over 20 years and never heard one like it. It was, to me, like one of those terrible cod-Irish accents that were used in American films of the '40s and '50s. I'm very surprised Hopkins was so bad at it and whatever accent it was meant to be did keep disappearing and then reappearing at odd moments, it was quite bizarre.
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Well, it seemed to be Hopkins was mostly speaking with his normal English voice but then seemed to drift in and out of an Irish accent. It didn't sound Welsh to me at all and I've been there enough on holiday.
It couldn't be Ryan Gosling's natural accent since he's Canadian and he sounded a bit Texan lol.
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Im Welsh and can it is definately a variation of a Welsh accent, different parts of Wales people accents are slightly changed but sound aloke to others but i can notice, Hopkins' accent proberly wasnt intentional its more of a slip up towards the end that i noticed it the most, im from Cardiff and iirc he is from Talbot and they have a more thick accent.
shareThe OP is right about Anthony Hopkins' accent. I'm from Wales and he sounded Welsh most of the time, but very strong Irish some of the time.
The Irish accent should have been more consistent IMO.
Probably be better if an Irish person could confirm or deny this as well.
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This board is so frustrating for the second time it was NOT and Irish accent and I wont insult any other country by saying he was attempting their accent.
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I won't comment on Hopkins accents because it sounded Welsh to me, but seems like no one really paid attention when Crawford commented to "Willy" about paying his way through east okie cowtown college and Tulsa Law School by writing papers for Princeton kids on the internet. If he's from Oklahoma, that would explain his country accent.
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I haven't heard enough Welsh or Irish accents to know if that was what Hopkins was doing...but I think he was making a failed attempt at an American accent. If that is true, his American accent was so bad that we are trying to decidee if he was speaking Irish or his own Welsh accent.
He wasn't the only one with a bad American Accent; several other British cast members didn't quite get the rhythm of an American accent either. Rosamund Pike (Willy's love interest) and Embeth Davidtz (Ted's wife) were better than Hopkins, but were so bad that my attention was distracted multiple times as they kept mispronouncing words.
I think both Pike and Davidtz are terrific actresses. And the argument for casting foreigners is that they bring high level acting and will take less money for it. But my goodness, there must be some up and coming Americans, working as waitresses somewhere, who could've done great jobs in these roles... without the big paycheck.
Ryan Gosling, even though he's Canadian, gets a passing grade for an in-and-out southern accent. But I wish they would've told us where he was from.
And the Kiwi, Cliff Curtis (the Detective) did alright, too. But he was far from flawless.
I agree with the original poster - Hopkins was without doubt attempting an Irish accent, and doing a bad job of it - as others have already commented. I was born in Wales, my brother lives in Dublin, and I have Scottish cousins so I have a fair familiarity of all 3 countries! I'm really surprised that anyone could mistake it for anything other than a bad Irish accent.
I don't know enough about Ryan Gosling to comment on his accent.
Rosamund Pike though, while her accent sounded ok (compared to her usual cut-glass British accent), I found really distracting, as in her face I could tell that she was putting so much effort into doing the accent - it's hard to describe, but once you realize that the accent is a bit forced it's difficult to forget about it for the rest of the film!
Firstly, I could listen to Ryan Gosling read the telephone book, I love his tone and I don't care what his accent was supposed to be. I like the southern twang that often comes into his drawl.
Mr Hopkins on the other hand, the act OR ,seemed to be channeling Ann Hathaway as payback. He was all over the show.
Here's what I heard - Welsh, northern Irish (Belfast?),Dublin, Canadian, Scottish, middle class English and Californian.
I would like to be generous and say his intense acting, overwhelming talent and incredible ability to memorise reams of Shakespeare distracted him from what his character's back story was, but considering this was another Hannibal part (hence no great stretch) he should have employed a good dialect coach.
Okay, firstly, I'm Irish (Republic of Ireland, Cork, in the south).
In Anthony Hopkins' second interview on Inside the Actors Studio he commented on the fact that he was using an Irish accent in the movie, and gave his reasons for doing so.
Now we know he was definitely doing an Irish accent, it's easier to comment on how good or bad it is. I would have recognised it as an Irish accent anyway, even had I not known prior to watching the film. I agree, the accent is much stronger in certain scenes, when he's talking to Gosling at the end, for example. When he's underplaying the accent it's actually quite good, it sounds natural and surprisingly realistic. When the accent gets stronger it does become a bit more caricature-ish and mixed up (he goes a bit northern Irish at points, which is a very different accent to that of a southern Irish person, the accent which he seemed to have been doing up until then). In fairness to him though, it's still one of the better attempts at an Irish accent I've heard. Strength of accents vary between people, and there are Irish people who would speak as he did even when the accent he as using was at its strongest. Having said that, pretty much all Hollywood attempts at Irish accents are atrocious, so Hopkins' attempt was always going to be better than most.
Overall it was a decent accent(no less than I would have expected, he's related to WB Yeats on his mother's side apparently), it's just a pity it wasn't more consistent. He should have spoken with Judge Robinson for guidance (played by Fiona Shaw, an Irishwoman, and a Corkwoman, no less!), I'm sure she could have helped him out.
Correct analysis.
sharePerhaps he has a particular set of skills!
I.e, he was doing a Liam Neeson impersonation