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Homosexuality?

posted 14 years ago by Firebender17
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Was it just me, or did the end scene in the Stormhold castle, where Captain Shakespeare winks at Horace imply that Horace prefers men?

I was really surprised by the movie's inclusion of a somewhat flamboyant character(Captain S.). I loved this character! He was probably one of my favorites...but I was surprised nonetheless.

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[–] why_yes_its_will 13 years ago

Lol people are blowing this completely out of proportion. It was a wink, yes a gay wink but seriously get over it. It's not like they jumped on each other and well...y'know.

[–] Bel_Zedar 13 years ago

This thread is fecked up. The administrators had to slash and burn because of flame wars about homosexuality - and grammer. LOL

[–] superman1 13 years ago

Well it is a fairy tale. What did you expect?
But Robert De Queero was shocking.
I'm surprised Richard Queer didn't appear.

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[–] Spacer1 12 years ago

I loved how overtly and obviously gay DeNiro's character was, even though one of his ship's crew called it "being whoopsie" instead of actually saying "gay." He stole the show here, and I loved the bit at the end with Humphrey as well. The reason why they did that is because just like Shakespeare's tough guy acts on the ship, Humphrey was overcompensating by always fighting with Tristan and not being his true self. That was their connection and I don't know how anybody could misinterpret this. I guess some people do need to see full on sex acts to get it.

[–] donwan47 11 years ago

De Niro was excellent in this and despite what some people say his character was a positive role model.

Kind, honest, intelligent and possessed of a great and kind heart. He just happened to be in the closet because of prejudice. An all too common occurrence.

[–] lapd96 11 years ago

While de niro's character was interesting, it was inaccurate for 19th century England or any European fairy tale.

[–] bthrock 11 years ago

19th century England also didn't have flying boats.

And Neil Gaiman is European, and this is his fairy tale, so you're wrong there too.

[–] lapd96 11 years ago

Nope, when I say fairy tales I mean old European fairy tales, I.e. hansel and gretel, red riding hood, the boy who cried wolf, etc....not modern day adaptations alternating from the norm

[–] clouseau-4 11 years ago

One of the messages of the movie was the importance of being yourself.

European fairy tales may not have had many (if any) explicitly "whoopsie" characters but of course we know they have existed throughout all of human history.

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[–] Ithilfaen 9 years ago

Nope, when I say fairy tales I mean old European fairy tales, I.e. hansel and gretel, red riding hood, the boy who cried wolf, etc....not modern day adaptations alternating from the norm

Not sure I agree since most of these tales never really included any kind of sexuality, straight or otherwise so by your standards, the depiction of straight love in Stardust is also inaccurate.

Regardless, this isn't an adaptation of any traditional fairy tale, it's a story with supernatural and magical elements that depicts love, lust for power, the quest for identity and many other human struggles. I think Captain Shakespeare's story fit perfectly in its midst.

As for the poster who thinks it makes no sense that Humphrey would be interested in a guy when he's actively pursuing Victoria, well, bisexuality is not a fairy tale to scare gay people straight (or vice versa), and maybe Humphrey was just pursuing Victoria the way Tristan was: because she's the "desirable" girl in the village, the pretty one, the one all the guys want, a trophy to whoever wins her.

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[–] Mad_Monkey 8 years ago

We all knew the captain was a whoopsie!