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A perfect example of everything I hate about stereotypical French cinema

posted 16 years ago by herz_aus_gold
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I’ve got one word for this… pretentious.
I quite enjoyed the first 10 minutes, until I realized that it was not supposed to be a parody of a typical French drama, but the real thing.
This is one of those movies that are so totally predictable from the very beginning.
I’ve got no problem with black and white; some of my favorite movies are shot that way. I’ve got no problem with subtitles and prefer them to a bad sync. I have to admit I’m not a big fan of dramas, but when done properly I can enjoy them as well. So my criticism isn’t _just_ based on prejudice.
But this waste-of-time was really, really horrible. The meaningful stares between people, the monotones soundtrack, the desperate In-Your-Face attempts to give this movie an artistic look, the storylines going nowhere and of course, the predictable disaster everything turns into.
There just wasn’t any chance to connect emotionally with any of the characters.
In your typical French drama, things start gloomy, then something goes wrong, someone will think things are going to become better, then everything actually get worse and in the end everyone is dead or lost in a state of complete desperate misery.
Now don’t get me wrong – the Hollywood method of going from status quo to an obstacle and from there to the happy end – is just as repetitions and (in the long run) pointless. But hey – at least it’s entertaining!

Final verdict for 13: Boring and tedious from start to finish! Avoid!

[–] infinajt 16 years ago

I’ve got one word for this… stupid.
I quite enjoyed the first 2 lines, until I realized that it was not supposed to be a parody of a typical imdb-warrior whining about stuff that goes totally over his head, but the real thing.
This is one of those posts that is so totally predictable from the very beginning.
I’ve got no problem with different opinions; some of my favorite opinions are different from my own. I’ve got no problem with people who enjoy 'lighter' movies. I have to admit I’m not a big fan of hateposts, but when done properly I can enjoy them as well. So my criticism isn’t _just_ based on prejudice.
But this waste-of-time was really, really horrible. The illogical statements, the boring amateur-criticism, the desperate In-Your-Face attempts to give this post some credibility, the points going nowhere and of course, the predictable disaster everything turns into.
There just wasn´t any chance to agree with anything that you wrote.
In your typical hatepost, things start ignorantly, then someone gets something even more wrong, someone will think things are going to become better, then everything actually get worse and in the end everyone is angry or has lost interest.
Now don’t get me wrong – the unquestionable love for 'pretentious' artsy-fartsy movies that I practice all the time is just as unoriginal and (in the long run) pointless. But hey – at least I like good movies!

Final verdict for herz_aus_gold: idiotism from start to finish! Avoid!

[–] neilini 16 years ago

The major "problem" with this film was that, since Sebastian was indisputably the main character, there was little tension that he would die during the murder-game. This removed a major source of tension from the middle third of the film. A great idea, but hampered by its execution (pardon the pun).

[–] Flashing-Lights 16 years ago

well said neilini, Kinda Like with The Dark Knight, you knew Batman would win so that removed tension or with any other movie with a Male Lead

Last movie Seen
13 Tzameti 8/10
Emma 7/10
Crimes and Misdemeanors 7/10

[–] Dragon_Eye_Morrison 16 years ago

What Flthy and Flashing Lights said.

''Never trouble trouble till trouble troubles you."

[–] jvanderide 15 years ago

Bravo Flthy. I really needed a good laugh.

[–] SeisCinemaSeis 15 years ago

Seems the OP is just another spoon-fed brat who probably thinks that Michael Bay, Uwe Boll and Brett Ratner are better filmmakers than Truffaut or Godard, after all they (Bay, Boll, Ratner) shoot "entertaining" flicks, don't they?

What a prick!

[–] Mr_Megalomaneac 15 years ago

I love how everyone who finds a drama such as this to be an amazing movie are almost always completely incapable of believing that anyone who does not find the same movie something great is either:

A mindless MTVer
Is someone who has to have everything spoon fed.
An idiot.
Not a real fan of true cinema.
Etc...

I enjoy movies that take their time and have different levels to them, but I found this movie incredibly tedious to watch. It had a good premise to it, but the execution made the... wow was it really 86 minutes... it seemed like 2 hours to me.

This is one of my least favorite movies of all time. Its pace, characters, and cinematography made it a trial to sit through.

3/10

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=40383695

[–] visitmario 15 years ago

May be you should stick to watching Spiderman and Fantastic four kinda of movies.

[–] snailtoe 15 years ago

Hello everyone, just thought i'd drag you all into reality a little bit, the original post was in Feb 08, there are still people posting over a year later, the first guy hasn't ever posted back. He's hardly going to check back on a forum for a film he doesn't like!!! So some people like films that some people don't, get over it, that's opinion, look it up on wikipedia or something.

But to add to the monotony of this thread, i happened to like the film, that's why i checked it out on here, i'm not going to qualify this opinion it is in essence subjective. And i'm not going to start having a go at people who like films i don't or don't like the films i do. I'll get back to checking out new films and revisiting old favourites, and flicking through forums to find out about stuff in films, i fear the latter of the three might prove most difficult.

[–] dru_mck 15 years ago

The French make the best movies if ya ask me.
irreversible
seul contre tous
martyrs
inside
13 tzameti
some of the greatest movies made.

[–] chilone 11 years ago

The French make the best movies if ya ask me.
irreversible
seul contre tous
martyrs
inside
13 tzameti
some of the greatest movies made.

I realize that I'm a couple of years late and this poster won't read this, but "Inside" is one of the stupidest, most ridiculous movies I've EVER seen!!!

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

[–] vrrroom 15 years ago

the funny (sad) thing with these kind of posts is that the original poster never defends his/her opinion after other's comments on it.

[–] StaunchWoman 11 years ago

What was the film pretending to be exactly?

We've met before, haven't we?

[–] Rabbit-Reviews 11 years ago

Some people can get the complexity and the underlaying stories in this phenomenal movie, and some people can't. Maybe in a few years, maybe never will you be able to appreciate 13, but for now that is impossible, and thats OK, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The rest of us just want you to have the same pleasure that we experienced while watching the movie (maybe pleasure is the wrong word :)

This is one of those movies that are so totally predictable from the very beginning.

I am just curious in what way was this movie predictable? I couldn't make out even the beginning, let alone the middle and the ending...

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[–] DaveHedgehog 11 years ago

I can usually tell how worthwhile a film is going to be with threads like these. The film's defenders put down the OP and direct him to mainstream Hollywood films and assumes he just 'doesn't get it'; my assumption is that the film is trash.

Valar morghulis.