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Did anyone feel a little sorry for Earl at the end?


Okay, he was a jackass, we know that. But the fact remains, he was the father of the baby. How can jenna just take the baby, and say "don't ever touch me, don't ever come near me, blah blah blah" and then have him thrown out of the room when his daughter was born just moments earlier?

Even though he wanted a boy, and he's a jerk, and told her not to love the baby more than him which is insane, the point is, he should still have some kind of presence in the baby's life. And the way it ended, was so fairy tale like... like jenna and the baby will just live together forever in a wonderful little life with no interference from anybody.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtYpLV4EPo

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No.

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>> How can jenna just take the baby, and say "don't ever touch me, don't ever come near me, blah blah blah" and then have him thrown out of the room when his daughter was born just moments earlier? <<

He was garbage. He told her she didn't have a choice in the matter when he wanted sex. He blasted his horn at her like she was a dog. He came to the wedding and knocked *beep* around in front of everyone. He throws her around.

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This might come across as insensitive, but that is one of my favorite moments in the film. It took the birth of the baby she never wanted to give her the strength to look her abusive husband in the eye and tell him to take a hike. Loved it!

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No, I didn't feel sorry for him. He was a despicable person who doesn't deserve to have a presence in his baby's life.

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There was only one, brief scene where I felt compassion for him. It was when he was sitting at the table at home waiting for Jenna to bring him his pie (btw is that all she ever cooked? I might've been a little sick of that meself).

I digress...Earl had just a disturbed look on his face like he was fighting inner demons that really had nothing to do with Jenna. Like he hated himself but couldn't control himself either. It was a brief shot, don't know if anyone else caught it.

But let's face it, anyone who is like Earl has deep issues, so I guess we shouldn't rip him for being mentally ill.

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I appreciate your point, Jay. Still, my earliest memories are of being terrorised, beaten and tortured by those most children would trust to protect them. My father was a violent alcoholic who tried to decapitate me with a spade when I was three-years old for reasons which have never been entirely clear. I WAS bumping my big-wheel against a tree in the back yard and shouting "Boom", but I still feel that he may have over-reacted. I ducked in time. So I suppose you could say, no harm, no foul.

My mother took the brunt of his attentions and elected to have a baby in the hope that it would 'ground' the old bastard. Needless to say, it didn't work out too well. I was a pretty big disappointment to her, and she had no hesitation about expressing the fact in non-verbal means as soon as I was old enough to walk. She became quite well-practised over the years, and I am pleased to say that I have remarkably few physical scars.

If you believe the 'common sense' about the results of such an upbringing, I should be driving a van that smells of bleach, working on my patio at 3am and lovingly compiling a scrap-book entitled 'Milk Maids' - because it's full of photographs clipped from the cartons!

We all have issues, but it's the way we deal with them that counts.

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We don't know what caused Earl to be a louse. Maybe he was a victim, maybe he was a bully who was racked with guilt. Maybe he had some chemical imbalance in his brain that simple meds might have controlled. Just saying he looked tortured. The begging of his wife for sex, the crying on his knees while at her feet shows this dude was a little dinky dau. If it wasn't his fault maybe he deserves some compassion. The movie didn't really portray him in a sympathetic light, but they needed an antagonist so they made him someone without redeeming qualities.

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Seeing her baby in the flesh was a turning point for her. The doctor's love exhibited to her started the reawakening of her confidence to stand up to Earl but seeing what she was able to create and that her baby did have worth after all was what gave her the strength to tell Earl then and there to screw off forever. I actually liked it happening there in that emotionally charged environment. If she went home with him and told him a day later, the scene would have had very little comparable impact.

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No.

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Nope! Not the slightest bit sorry. He was a sociopathic manipulative tyrannical creep. I was glad to see her finally tell him to FO at the very end. People like him should not reproduce and should stay far away from children.

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