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IS ANYONE ELSE ANNOYED?


Can you beleive that their making SEQUEL to that load of crap they call Twitches. Do they even realize the big errors that they made?

Karsh and Ileana are okay in the mvoies as a couple but ewwww can you beleive in the books if that were to happen?
The fact that their fourteen - sixteen in the end - is very important because they needed proitection, is there anything sadder than a spoiled rotten "I can't do anything myself except draw" 21 year-old living with her parents?
And their eyes are GRAY not BROWN (many reasons why this is important)
CAUCASIAN! (not racist)


Acutally when I saw the little ad in Teen People about this, I was so mad that I looked it up on disney and watched it and practically filled up three pages with errors.

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I know! this movie totally sucks! i LOVE the books and i was sooo dissapointed when i found out that the twins from sistersister were gonna be in it, and then when i saw the movie i was pretty much yelling at the tv. how could someone have thougt it was a good idea to totally kill one of the best witch series ever? i really wish someone would make it into a GOOD movie. it deserves it.



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My cast so far

Addison Hoover - Camryn Barnes/Apolla DuBaer
Alex Hoover - Alexandra Fielding/Artemis DuBaer
Lindsey Shaw (with firzzy wig) - Beth Fish
Danielle Panabaker - Amanda Carter
Brenda Song - Kristen Hsu
?????? - Sukari Woodward
Kay Panabaker (with dyed blonde hair) - Bree Waxman

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Hi People.

I just joined today!

I probably shouldn't be commenting on this topic because I haven't even finished the first Twitches book, but I have a couple of things I want to add to this topic. I also haven't seen the TV-movie in question. But things about it bothered me when I saw the comercial/s last October.

I agree with the first post about the caucasian thing. I'm not racist either. But having seen the covers of a few books (which I'm guessing often have Cam and Alex on their covers) the girls are NOT dark skinned. Kind of a flaw, you might say. Why didn't they just use the people (again I'm guessing that the girls on the covers are real people and not just really realistic drawings) who are on the books. Nothing against Tia & Tamera Mowry (the twins form Sister, Sister).

From the part that I have read so far, the girls seemed to still be in high school. Around the age of 16 I think. I looked at the cover of the first book and noticed that their eyes are green. Because I haven't read much of the first one I don't know (or remember as it's been a while since I was reading it) what color their eyes are "supposed" to be. I imagine that the Mowry sisters have brown eyes as most "black" people do (unless they wear colored contacts).

Well, I think that's about all the ranting (if it was ranting) about the "crummy" Twitches TV-movie I have in me for now. I also agree that someone should make a better version. But I guess I should see it first them make any judgements. Not that making judgements is a good thing. Oh well.

Ta Ta For Now


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"Luna Lovegood"
where is she from? ive heard her name befor...

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Harry Potter, fourth book

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harry Potter books 5 and 6

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That's very ignorant plenty of black people(who are not mixed or wearing contacts.) have green/blue/grey eyes! And the Mowry sisters are bi-racial, not JUST black but white too.
I don't really care who plays them as long as they do the part justice. They could be purple-skinned with yellow eyes and from pluto, still wouldn't care if they could act.

Why as why when why not is a better question?

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Well said!
I agree with you there,
the so called "flaws" are superficial, especially regarding the significance of eye colour and skin tone, people should not be so ignorant and try to use a little imagination. The cover artists on the books certainly did.

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the "flaw" of eye colour is the most important thing in the fact that they found out that miranda was their mom b/c she's like the only person other than aron - their dead father who actually is dead in the books - who has those eyes and ileana
which leads into my next point . . .

In the sixteenth century, fierce battles erupted all over Europe among opposing groups and governments - each of whom believed their way of life was the only correct one. As these wars were waged, millions of innocent people died for holding different beliefs. Among them were gifted healers and seers labeled "witches."1 This was the bloody period that gave rise to La Prophetic Aux Yeux Gris - the legendary "Prophecy of the Gray Eyes."

Although they didn't know it, a few gray-eyed families living in northern France around 1550 shared a common ancestor called The First. The First was the most powerful healer of the Paleolithic era (approximately 25,000-30,000 years ago). People believed her startling metallic-gray eyes were connected to her superior gifts.

By the late sixteenth century, the few families who bore these eyes - all of them healers and descendants of The First - were very distantly related yet had never met. But the mysterious eyes they shared drew the notice of fearful leaders. The warmongers accused anyone possessing these eyes of witchcraft, and began to hunt and imprison them. Mad rulers, and in many instances ignorant populations, demanded their death.

Five such witches met for the first time while in prison awaiting trial. Shocked to discover in others the eyes they thought had always belonged only to them, the three women and two men came to believe that their meeting was not accidental.

The night before they were all to be executed, they gathered secretly to pledge their faith to each other. Shielded by the dark of the new moon in Jupiter, they decreed a prophecy:

"Let it be written that the gray-eyed descendants of The First will someday be reunited. In thirteen generations there will come a sacred marriage between a gray-eyed man and woman. The offspring of this union, whose birth on the last day of October will bridge the moment between the setting of the full moon and the rising sun, will be imbued with powers greater than those of all others, and equal to those of The First. Thus will be restored the awesome power of our kind. In this way will we be vindicated, and things set right."

Calling upon their natural gifts, the five prisoners escaped, striking out in different directions to better their chances. One of those present for the prophecy was Jacob DuBaer's grandfather, the healer Henri, who fled his native land after being accused of witchcraft. Another was Jeanne de la Rochelle, who made her way to South Africa. Sadly, the other man and two women were recaptured.

A generation later, in 1620, Henri's son, Ephram DuBaer, left his home in England, sailing on a vessel called the Mayflower. He needed the freedom promised in the New World to practice his arts and express his beliefs. So, like his father before him, Ephram fled the land of his birth. This is how the family DuBaer eventually came to be in America.

Ephram settled in the Plymouth Colony, where his skills as a botanist and healer brought him great wealth and renown. He had one son and six daughters by two wives. Jacob was the eldest and soon, like his father and his father before him, he gained a reputation as a great healer. Jacob, of course, would go on to found Coventry Island.

Three hundred years after the uttering of the Prophecy, two descendants of Coventry's earliest and most prominent families, Miranda Martine and Aron DuBaer, married. The stage was finally set for the fulfillment of the Prophecy of the Gray Eyes.

1 The term "witches" is sometimes used to describe both females and males gifted in the magick arts.


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while all of this is utterly fascinating and all..... I have to say that I think you may be making mountains out of mole hills. While I have been known to make a big deal of the stuff they changed in the harry potter books, and princess diearies books, not to mention the book "Ella Enchanted," not even I get that into it and pull out a mile of stuff from a history lesson nobody asked for. so save it for those who care when you wish to spew like a Mount Vesuvious.

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There is a lot to the eye color thing, but it is more than that the movies are nothing like the books. The books had depth, the movies didn't.

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I was going to agree with this too, they are black people with naturally, gold (light brown) or dark green eyes. It kinda bothers me that being black is defined as being 100% black, whatever that is. Which I guess means darker skin, curled hair and deep brown eyes, but in reality there are a lot of variants. Every once in a while, blacks are born completely albino or with blue eyes. It does happen!

That is like saying all white people are pale skinned, blonde hair and blue eyed. It's a little closed minded. And most people in the US aren't 100% anything, but a mix of things. Saying it is ok for white people to have a mix of background, but black people have to be 100% black, again not sure what that means because if you are in American, you will always be a mix of something, in order to be really black. It's just an odd thing to even talk about, kinda silly and not based on any factual information.

Now, if people are mad the girls don't resemble the characters in the books, that is done all the time in the media. Disney probably wanted girls who had a show before to do the movie, so people would have an interest watching it. Movies do this all the time with characters. I've seen book characters go from having black hair to being blonde or even two book characters being made into one movie character, do to lack of time in the movie, as opposed to books. If you are completely faithful to the book, then it would be six or more hours long and movie watchers would lose interest.

I get kinda bored when people play the race card with anything that has to do with African American culture.

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i don't think this movie sucks,and i hardly noticed the error's and if i ever do its only 3? whats the big deal?..

So Don't Cry To Me,If You Loved Me,You Would Be Here With me. :P

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LoL, only 3? You need to read the book series...

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i was seriously pissed off when i saw it...they totally ripped the series to shreds. iwas was so excited when i saw it was coming out but it almost needs to be a series and it should follow the books...disney sucks at making movies like that...

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I agree it is crap compared to the book series.

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I just love twitches I mean yeah the book is way different but Tia and Tamera made a great Twitches team I mean who else famous would they use unless it was the girls on the books.

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Hated the movie....

"Luna Lovegood"
where is she from? ive heard her name befor...

Harry Potter.

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As a person who really enjoyed the books in all of their cuteness (yes, I'm a nerd) I am really disturbed to see that they would put Karsh and Ilena together.... ewwwwwwwwwww... I guess if you take it seperately it's ok, but I love the series so much! They should totally do a movie out of it that's GOOD! I know they never will, but it's so sad to see them mutilize such a good storyline. It could be so much better. Plus, Tia and Tamora are very overdone on disney channel. They already have their show "Sister Sister" in which a similar thing happens. There is only so much that you can do with a plot like that.

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There are many better choices.

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"Luna Lovegood"
where is she from? ive heard her name befor...

You should, if you read harry potter 5 dear.


Anyway Sadly i have never seen or read the books so the movies the only one i know, but come on, everyone knows movie adaptations from kids books are never alike.

Harry potter 4: cut out the ENTIRE hagrid/madame maxie thing
series of unfortunate events: don't even get me started.
How to eat fried worms: i can say with confidence there is no girl.
Holes: stanleys supposed to be fat.

shall i continue? nah, you get the idea ;)

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Hi everyone!

I cannot believe it, I'm so ticked. As being avid fans, and being south african readers we've only heard the news now. How can the twins be from sister sister. I mean can't you find any other actresses to have the part of the twins ! Really! It's not like they're the only twins who can act on the planet!

First of all:

FOR GOODNESS SAKE! I thought it was T...Witches not TWITCHES...which sounds extreamlely dodgy lol *twitches eyes* hee hee.

2. THEY ARE TEEN AGERS...hence the name Twins...WItches...T*WItches, i thought HOllywood surely would have smartpeople but this isn't rocket science!

3. Karsh is supposed to be BLACK (not racist but factually) helloo. and powedery and ancient looking, not someone who looks like he stepped out of a sitcom!

4. Their acting is soo bad, it seems fake and superficial! Its like tehy are mocking it which in my opinion, would be frikken creepy if u met ur twin like that!

WHY DID DISNEY of all maker have to make this film, WHY??? it could have been so much better with SFX and everything, now its ruined FOREVER!

Me and My friend are seriously depressed and we feel like crying...

ok thats ova

Glad we all think alike (in this situation) of course and that we are all of the same mind

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Ok two problems. One I have read the first couple of books and nowhere does it say that Karsh is supposed to be black. Also the movie takes place today so by this time they would be in their 20s.

You only go around life once so you might as well spend it smashed

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It never says in the text, at least not if I remember correctly -- it's just that there was a picture of him on the back cover of one book (there's no one else it could logically be) that depicted him as a black dude.

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This movie was BASED on the book, it wasn't planned to be exactly like it. It was an enjoyable movie and rocked. If you don't like it, then just don't watch it.

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Yeah but thats the whole point...it should at least have SOME parts of the book in the movie...it hasd barely anything from the books in it.

But i too get annoyed from the movie. My friends and i were watching it one day recently (i can't remember when) and i was just pointing out all the mistakes...and my friends who have never read the books enjoyed it...but it was really annoying!

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i no. true i read the books like...a while ago but i loved them. and i was reall excited wen i saw they were making the movie. then this crap came on...i was so dispointed, that i couldnt even finish watching it. they destroyed everything. all of it. ruined. for ever.

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The Olsen twins probably could have done a better job than them, and the special effects! Can you get any more lame? The darkness looked like something from a cartoon. I think a diferrent company like Columbia or Universal could have done a lot better with the project.

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'But having seen the covers of a few books (which I'm guessing often have Cam and Alex on their covers) the girls are NOT dark skinned. Kind of a flaw, you might say. Why didn't they just use the people (again I'm guessing that the girls on the covers are real people and not just really realistic drawings) who are on the books.

Anyway Sadly i have never seen or read the books so the movies the only one i know, but come on, everyone knows movie adaptations from kids books are never alike.

2. THEY ARE TEEN AGERS...hence the name Twins...WItches...T*WItches, i thought HOllywood surely would have smartpeople but this isn't rocket science!

I have a notebook with every diffrence from movie to book and if I ever meet the director or writer of this they will get an earfull.'

In response to the above previous posts:

First, if they are actual people on the covers, then they're probably just MODELS! Who may not act, at all! The person on the cover is just to give you an idea of what they would look like not the actual character. Use your own imagination. They probably weren't thinking that far in advance about whether or not there would be a movie.

Second, I agree with this person, adaptations from books to movies never turn out to be exact, with the rare exception of a few. I mean look at the Da Vinci Code. How many people complained that it was way off?

Third, how does being teenagers relate with twin witches? I mean twin witches can also be witches in their 20's, 30's, 40's etc. Not just teenagers. The teen thing is irrelevant.

Lastly, you have a notebook with every error in it relating to the movie and book?! "IF YOU EVER MEET THE DIRECTOR, YOU WILL GIVE HIM AN EARFUL!" Oh dear, what planet have you been living on recently? Do you really think this person will care? No.

Move on everyone.

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Oh yeah, I had half a mind to complain to disney, its not so much that camryn and alex were played by tia and tamara mowry, its teh fact that they totalkly butchered the story. I alwyas thought th book would make a great move, but come on, karsh is supposed to be dunbledore-like, illeana is sposed to be all *call me goddess", alext is sposed to a be a punk, camryn is sposed to be a soccer star, not a rich prissy girl.
Dont even get me started ton their mom, thantos, and their ages and the other major character errors..and "the darkness" for crying out loud!

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I TOTALLY agree. I was sooo disappointed when I saw this movie. The story line was completely off. Absolutely NOTHING was right, except their names. It was an incredible series and Disney completely desroyed it. Unexceptable. And now they are going to make a sequal?!?!?! Wrong-o. I'm not entirely sure if I'll watch it. Several of my friends agree with me and we spent almost 2 hours trashing it on-line. I can't even begin to describe everything that was wrong with it. This movie was a mistake. Anyone else agree?

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I agree!
I pretend to loved it...
I think It's O.K.
in my honest Opinion...

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I loved the books...I saw the previews for the movie and seriously almost gagged, haha...I can't bring myself to actually watch the movie, though. I even saw all the little behind the scenes stuff...nuh-uh. It doesn't look anything like the books and I refuse to let it ruin the books for me. >_>

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Thats true,,,,,*not allowing it to ruin books for me*

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my first ever comment....YAY!!! :| im kidding.
but anyway, i cant even bring myself to WATCH that movie! ive only read the first book, but at the same time...! also, I agree with the person who said that the Olsen twins would have done a better job. Just dye their hair and put in gray contacts, and you're rockin!
anyway...

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This was the worst DCOM movie ever. Too many mistakes to even begin to mention.

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lets see how theya re gona mess it up now

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